2008 ETA

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Re: 2008 ETA

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Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:23 am Overheard at the rink which I thought was interesting and I could only assume is the reason all parents are nuts on here.

A scout was talking to the important of making the omha’s as a team and getting at least a wild card invite to OHL cup. If your team is eliminated before reaching OMHA it will be last chance for a players showing. A JF on KJG or BS on OG will be forgotten and draft stock slides purely out of recency bias.

Second thing overhead was actually said by a U 18 coach who said he stopped committing to players till after season is over because he feared he would commit to players who weren’t winners. Wanted to wait to see which team where’s successful and then go after those type of players.

Just interesting food for thought. Winning gives your kids more chances, not more second assistants
Id say that too if I was a U18 coach that couldnt attract good kids. Recency bias is thing but only moves kids up or down the round they are going to go in anyway. OHL combine can do the same thing.
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I’d tend to agree with this coach. Why commit until you see the draft. 90% of players will be panicking come May, lots of good players to go round.

And why you think top 5-10 teams have 10+ players picked? It’s not because the 10th player on Vaughan is any better than the first player on any decent team. The player gets picked because of teams reputation and saw them last.
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So funny listening to all these experts here . So CF from PP won they drafted because team had such a bad year . No wrong he will be drafted as a smart scout can see he didn’t have any talent to play with !
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Yep and anyone with an agent they don’t pay for knows this . Can’t help who your weak guys are . I know a couple being told they are getting drafted and they have boys on team that will play aa next year . As far as u18 they important one shave a spot already . Rest will fight for what’s left or end up in cow
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So question for you, my son is looking like he’ll be drafted in the 4th or 5th round (yes I know things can change and nothing is for sure). No one has mentioned U18 AAA spots to us and we haven’t been approached by any U18 coaches. So now I’m confused by all this U18 talk. Is it only lower ranked kids that they’re committing to? Wouldn’t that leave them with no spots for better players/oHL draft picks who won’t play in the O as a 16-year old? Don’t OHL teams find you a team to play on if you won’t crack their lineup? Also, these kids who’ve committed to U18 teams, what if they have a great playoff run and get drafted early day 2… do they then de-commit to the U18 program? How can you commit to a U18 team if you don’t know where you’re getting drafted to?
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Don’t rely on the OHL team all.
I’ve been through it. Were told 4-6, went in 9.
Do your due diligence.

Go to the OHL camp and expect nothing from them. Use it as a great learning experience and a chance to see what the goal is. Make sure to skate in 2 OJHL rookie camps and/or 2 GOJHL for teams that are mid to low pack because the good teams won’t always have a spot for a 16yr old and they won’t play much typically.

Call U18 coaches that you think may be a good fit and start the conversation. It worked for my son and he played OJHL as a 16 yr old ahead of others because we didn’t wait till the last mins. He had a GOJHL team and a u18 team ready to go if he didn’t make the OJHL. He now is in his third year and this year had to make the choice between O and NCAA.

Good luck. It’s not an easy process.
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Re: 2008 ETA

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Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:23 am Overheard at the rink which I thought was interesting and I could only assume is the reason all parents are nuts on here.

A scout was talking to the important of making the omha’s as a team and getting at least a wild card invite to OHL cup. If your team is eliminated before reaching OMHA it will be last chance for a players showing. A JF on KJG or BS on OG will be forgotten and draft stock slides purely out of recency bias.

Second thing overhead was actually said by a U 18 coach who said he stopped committing to players till after season is over because he feared he would commit to players who weren’t winners. Wanted to wait to see which team where’s successful and then go after those type of players.

Just interesting food for thought. Winning gives your kids more chances, not more second assistants
Id say that too if I was a U18 coach that couldnt attract good kids. Recency bias is thing but only moves kids up or down the round they are going to go in anyway. OHL combine can do the same thing.
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I’d tend to agree with this coach. Why commit until you see the draft. 90% of players will be panicking come May, lots of good players to go round.

And why you think top 5-10 teams have 10+ players picked? It’s not because the 10th player on Vaughan is any better than the first player on any decent team. The player gets picked because of teams reputation and saw them last.
[/quote]
So funny listening to all these experts here . So CF from PP won they drafted because team had such a bad year . No wrong he will be drafted as a smart scout can see he didn’t have any talent to play with !
[/quote]

Yep and anyone with an agent they don’t pay for knows this . Can’t help who your weak guys are . I know a couple being told they are getting drafted and they have boys on team that will play aa next year . As far as u18 they important one shave a spot already . Rest will fight for what’s left or end up in cow
[/quote]

So question for you, my son is looking like he’ll be drafted in the 4th or 5th round (yes I know things can change and nothing is for sure). No one has mentioned U18 AAA spots to us and we haven’t been approached by any U18 coaches. So now I’m confused by all this U18 talk. Is it only lower ranked kids that they’re committing to? Wouldn’t that leave them with no spots for better players/oHL draft picks who won’t play in the O as a 16-year old? Don’t OHL teams find you a team to play on if you won’t crack their lineup? Also, these kids who’ve committed to U18 teams, what if they have a great playoff run and get drafted early day 2… do they then de-commit to the U18 program? How can you commit to a U18 team if you don’t know where you’re getting drafted to?
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Anything after top 40 picks should have a U 18 commit or at least pick up phone if called by one.

2 third rounders playing U 18 this year so it’s possible.

It’s better to be honest and tell u 18 it’s a back up plan as most coaches will be ok if your sons actually that good.

If you’re from Durham and rated that high I’m sure you’ve gotten a call from APR or NS. If not, your son probably isn’t rated that high.
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Re: 2008 ETA

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Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:42 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:23 am Overheard at the rink which I thought was interesting and I could only assume is the reason all parents are nuts on here.

A scout was talking to the important of making the omha’s as a team and getting at least a wild card invite to OHL cup. If your team is eliminated before reaching OMHA it will be last chance for a players showing. A JF on KJG or BS on OG will be forgotten and draft stock slides purely out of recency bias.

Second thing overhead was actually said by a U 18 coach who said he stopped committing to players till after season is over because he feared he would commit to players who weren’t winners. Wanted to wait to see which team where’s successful and then go after those type of players.

Just interesting food for thought. Winning gives your kids more chances, not more second assistants
Id say that too if I was a U18 coach that couldnt attract good kids. Recency bias is thing but only moves kids up or down the round they are going to go in anyway. OHL combine can do the same thing.

I’d tend to agree with this coach. Why commit until you see the draft. 90% of players will be panicking come May, lots of good players to go round.

And why you think top 5-10 teams have 10+ players picked? It’s not because the 10th player on Vaughan is any better than the first player on any decent team. The player gets picked because of teams reputation and saw them last.
[/quote]
So funny listening to all these experts here . So CF from PP won they drafted because team had such a bad year . No wrong he will be drafted as a smart scout can see he didn’t have any talent to play with !
[/quote]

Yep and anyone with an agent they don’t pay for knows this . Can’t help who your weak guys are . I know a couple being told they are getting drafted and they have boys on team that will play aa next year . As far as u18 they important one shave a spot already . Rest will fight for what’s left or end up in cow
[/quote]

So question for you, my son is looking like he’ll be drafted in the 4th or 5th round (yes I know things can change and nothing is for sure). No one has mentioned U18 AAA spots to us and we haven’t been approached by any U18 coaches. So now I’m confused by all this U18 talk. Is it only lower ranked kids that they’re committing to? Wouldn’t that leave them with no spots for better players/oHL draft picks who won’t play in the O as a 16-year old? Don’t OHL teams find you a team to play on if you won’t crack their lineup? Also, these kids who’ve committed to U18 teams, what if they have a great playoff run and get drafted early day 2… do they then de-commit to the U18 program? How can you commit to a U18 team if you don’t know where you’re getting drafted to?
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Anything after top 40 picks should have a U 18 commit or at least pick up phone if called by one.

2 third rounders playing U 18 this year so it’s possible.

It’s better to be honest and tell u 18 it’s a back up plan as most coaches will be ok if your sons actually that good.

If you’re from Durham and rated that high I’m sure you’ve gotten a call from APR or NS. If not, your son probably isn’t rated that high.
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Outside of peterbourgh, no ohl team tells you what U 18 team to play for. Most don’t care what jr b of a team either
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Re: 2008 ETA

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Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:31 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:06 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:04 am Overheard at the rink which I thought was interesting and I could only assume is the reason all parents are nuts on here.

A scout was talking to the important of making the omha’s as a team and getting at least a wild card invite to OHL cup. If your team is eliminated before reaching OMHA it will be last chance for a players showing. A JF on KJG or BS on OG will be forgotten and draft stock slides purely out of recency bias.

Second thing overhead was actually said by a U 18 coach who said he stopped committing to players till after season is over because he feared he would commit to players who weren’t winners. Wanted to wait to see which team where’s successful and then go after those type of players.

Just interesting food for thought. Winning gives your kids more chances, not more second assistants
Id say that too if I was a U18 coach that couldnt attract good kids. Recency bias is thing but only moves kids up or down the round they are going to go in anyway. OHL combine can do the same thing.

I’d tend to agree with this coach. Why commit until you see the draft. 90% of players will be panicking come May, lots of good players to go round.

And why you think top 5-10 teams have 10+ players picked? It’s not because the 10th player on Vaughan is any better than the first player on any decent team. The player gets picked because of teams reputation and saw them last.
This is just flat out wrong. Top 5-10 teams dont have 10+ players picked. Poster is out to lunch.
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Re: 2008 ETA

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Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:51 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:31 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:06 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:04 am Overheard at the rink which I thought was interesting and I could only assume is the reason all parents are nuts on here.

A scout was talking to the important of making the omha’s as a team and getting at least a wild card invite to OHL cup. If your team is eliminated before reaching OMHA it will be last chance for a players showing. A JF on KJG or BS on OG will be forgotten and draft stock slides purely out of recency bias.

Second thing overhead was actually said by a U 18 coach who said he stopped committing to players till after season is over because he feared he would commit to players who weren’t winners. Wanted to wait to see which team where’s successful and then go after those type of players.

Just interesting food for thought. Winning gives your kids more chances, not more second assistants
Id say that too if I was a U18 coach that couldnt attract good kids. Recency bias is thing but only moves kids up or down the round they are going to go in anyway. OHL combine can do the same thing.

I’d tend to agree with this coach. Why commit until you see the draft. 90% of players will be panicking come May, lots of good players to go round.

And why you think top 5-10 teams have 10+ players picked? It’s not because the 10th player on Vaughan is any better than the first player on any decent team. The player gets picked because of teams reputation and saw them last.
This is just flat out wrong. Top 5-10 teams dont have 10+ players picked. Poster is out to lunch.
Top two teams pretty much full ! I know this for sure . Only spots people will be trying out for are the sports of the ones drafted.
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Don’t take advice from anyone on this site . Everything I have read so far is completely wrong .
Example kid from OG U18 last year now getting regular shift with Ottawa 67’s OHL .
Very important to play U18 not OJHL or other mid leagues at 16 .
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How is EG from Oshawa actually keeping both boys together again. Insane really
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Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:22 am Don’t take advice from anyone on this site . Everything I have read so far is completely wrong .
Example kid from OG U18 last year now getting regular shift with Ottawa 67’s OHL .
Very important to play U18 not OJHL or other mid leagues at 16 .
I love this. A dude who says listen to me, but don’t take advise from this site…..lol. Anyways, he does make a good point that u18 is important and that players do jump from u18 to the OHL. I won’t discredit that at all. But, there are players 16 and 17 yr. Olds who do the same playing OJHL and GOJHL. So if your son is able to crack a line up, AND get regular ice time, it will benefit him just as much if not more than u18. Just remember, u18 is still minor hockey and you have a little more “contact and accessibility” to coaches. If you chose OJ or GOJ, you are now playing big boy hockey and access to coaches and ability to “complain” is lost. Your boy must be able to fend for himself in coaches meetings. You as a parent are not welcome.
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Re: 2008 ETA

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Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:17 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:51 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:31 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:06 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:04 am Overheard at the rink which I thought was interesting and I could only assume is the reason all parents are nuts on here.

A scout was talking to the important of making the omha’s as a team and getting at least a wild card invite to OHL cup. If your team is eliminated before reaching OMHA it will be last chance for a players showing. A JF on KJG or BS on OG will be forgotten and draft stock slides purely out of recency bias.

Second thing overhead was actually said by a U 18 coach who said he stopped committing to players till after season is over because he feared he would commit to players who weren’t winners. Wanted to wait to see which team where’s successful and then go after those type of players.

Just interesting food for thought. Winning gives your kids more chances, not more second assistants
Id say that too if I was a U18 coach that couldnt attract good kids. Recency bias is thing but only moves kids up or down the round they are going to go in anyway. OHL combine can do the same thing.

I’d tend to agree with this coach. Why commit until you see the draft. 90% of players will be panicking come May, lots of good players to go round.

And why you think top 5-10 teams have 10+ players picked? It’s not because the 10th player on Vaughan is any better than the first player on any decent team. The player gets picked because of teams reputation and saw them last.
This is just flat out wrong. Top 5-10 teams dont have 10+ players picked. Poster is out to lunch.
Top two teams pretty much full ! I know this for sure . Only spots people will be trying out for are the sports of the ones drafted.
Is U18 an open border?
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Re: 2008 ETA

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Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:56 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:17 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:51 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:31 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:06 am
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:04 am Overheard at the rink which I thought was interesting and I could only assume is the reason all parents are nuts on here.

A scout was talking to the important of making the omha’s as a team and getting at least a wild card invite to OHL cup. If your team is eliminated before reaching OMHA it will be last chance for a players showing. A JF on KJG or BS on OG will be forgotten and draft stock slides purely out of recency bias.

Second thing overhead was actually said by a U 18 coach who said he stopped committing to players till after season is over because he feared he would commit to players who weren’t winners. Wanted to wait to see which team where’s successful and then go after those type of players.

Just interesting food for thought. Winning gives your kids more chances, not more second assistants
Id say that too if I was a U18 coach that couldnt attract good kids. Recency bias is thing but only moves kids up or down the round they are going to go in anyway. OHL combine can do the same thing.

I’d tend to agree with this coach. Why commit until you see the draft. 90% of players will be panicking come May, lots of good players to go round.

And why you think top 5-10 teams have 10+ players picked? It’s not because the 10th player on Vaughan is any better than the first player on any decent team. The player gets picked because of teams reputation and saw them last.
This is just flat out wrong. Top 5-10 teams dont have 10+ players picked. Poster is out to lunch.
Top two teams pretty much full ! I know this for sure . Only spots people will be trying out for are the sports of the ones drafted.
Is U18 an open border?
Within the OMHA yes.
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