2008 GTHL A WEST

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Out of curiosity, how much are players paying for AVS next season? I understand there is some paid coaches on the bench but curious how much it costs for the Spring Program and for the Winter Season?
Call the new coach and ask, you will not get correct answers on here
Tryouts already posted with the coaches name and email on the GTHL site.

Contact him about the team and then report here immediately!
Unless you show up at tryouts, they are not leaking out how much the program costs. Expect 7-8k with spring.
Who is the coach?

Has he ever coached in the G?
Why do you care so much? This is all from the same two guys. Stop it boys. We all know who you are.
Easy big guy.

Simple question.

No need to be so sensitive.
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He's never coached anywhere. Just a street guy who watches hockey on tv. Horrible breath. Budget is 18K. Team is full of terrible kids and horrible hockey players. They will finish last by 20 pts. There. Does that check all your boxes? Feel better now?
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Just a simple question about the coach. Just anyswee it if you know.
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Avs 24/25 price tag is OK for the winter season, $5K with GTHL fees. The issue is the Spring Program at $2K. Lots of pushback around Dryland and the cost. There are ways to trim this budget.
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Call the new coach and ask, you will not get correct answers on here
Tryouts already posted with the coaches name and email on the GTHL site.

Contact him about the team and then report here immediately!
Unless you show up at tryouts, they are not leaking out how much the program costs. Expect 7-8k with spring.
Who is the coach?

Has he ever coached in the G?
Why do you care so much? This is all from the same two guys. Stop it boys. We all know who you are.
Easy big guy.

Simple question.

No need to be so sensitive.
He's never coached anywhere. Just a street guy who watches hockey on tv. Horrible breath. Budget is 18K. Team is full of terrible kids and horrible hockey players. They will finish last by 20 pts. There. Does that check all your boxes? Feel better now?
[/quote]

Just a simple question about the coach. Just anyswee it if you know.
[/quote]

Avs 24/25 price tag is OK for the winter season, $5K with GTHL fees. The issue is the Spring Program at $2K. Lots of pushback around Dryland and the cost. There are ways to trim this budget.
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Dryland for an A program at U17??? LOL
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Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:15 am
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:53 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:34 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:24 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:51 pm

Tryouts already posted with the coaches name and email on the GTHL site.

Contact him about the team and then report here immediately!
Unless you show up at tryouts, they are not leaking out how much the program costs. Expect 7-8k with spring.
Who is the coach?

Has he ever coached in the G?
Why do you care so much? This is all from the same two guys. Stop it boys. We all know who you are.
Easy big guy.

Simple question.

No need to be so sensitive.
He's never coached anywhere. Just a street guy who watches hockey on tv. Horrible breath. Budget is 18K. Team is full of terrible kids and horrible hockey players. They will finish last by 20 pts. There. Does that check all your boxes? Feel better now?
Just a simple question about the coach. Just anyswee it if you know.
[/quote]

Avs 24/25 price tag is OK for the winter season, $5K with GTHL fees. The issue is the Spring Program at $2K. Lots of pushback around Dryland and the cost. There are ways to trim this budget.
[/quote]

Dryland for an A program at U17??? LOL
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I wouldn't trust the 5k also. At first it was estimated at 6.5k, now its down to 5k? At tryouts they will hand you the official budget. You take it or leave it. They don't have a manager yet so the detail costing is still underway.
Here's the problem with the Avs. The coach has no experience and will rely on the GM's assistant. A few weeks into the season parents will start to collude and create some disruption. They will push to fire the coach and a parent will step in along with a close friend. It will be circus for some and at ease for others. By the end of the season no one will talk to each other each will go on with their lives.
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Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:22 am
Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:15 am
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:53 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:34 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:24 pm

Unless you show up at tryouts, they are not leaking out how much the program costs. Expect 7-8k with spring.
Who is the coach?

Has he ever coached in the G?
Why do you care so much? This is all from the same two guys. Stop it boys. We all know who you are.
Easy big guy.

Simple question.

No need to be so sensitive.
He's never coached anywhere. Just a street guy who watches hockey on tv. Horrible breath. Budget is 18K. Team is full of terrible kids and horrible hockey players. They will finish last by 20 pts. There. Does that check all your boxes? Feel better now?
Just a simple question about the coach. Just anyswee it if you know.
Avs 24/25 price tag is OK for the winter season, $5K with GTHL fees. The issue is the Spring Program at $2K. Lots of pushback around Dryland and the cost. There are ways to trim this budget.
[/quote]

Dryland for an A program at U17??? LOL
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I wouldn't trust the 5k also. At first it was estimated at 6.5k, now its down to 5k? At tryouts they will hand you the official budget. You take it or leave it. They don't have a manager yet so the detail costing is still underway.
Here's the problem with the Avs. The coach has no experience and will rely on the GM's assistant. A few weeks into the season parents will start to collude and create some disruption. They will push to fire the coach and a parent will step in along with a close friend. It will be circus for some and at ease for others. By the end of the season no one will talk to each other each will go on with their lives.
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That's a bit dark.

The season budget should be the same as any other A team with a trainer and coach. Spring is always optional, with most kids opting in. Dryland is BS. Just have the kids do some push ups run on a treadmill or outside.

This is not a big deal. All the kids left and there were no parents to step in.

The Org decided to have a trainer handle everything, and instead of him picking a team and them asking one of the dads to coach (which would have been tough). He grabbed a coach with little experience to recruit and put a team together. It's not easy to start from scratch at this age, and they team will struggle to get good talent and will have a tough season. Should they have just folded? Maybe, but if kids want to play and trainers want to train, then why not?
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Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:58 am
Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:34 am
Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:22 am
Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:15 am
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:53 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:34 pm

Who is the coach?

Has he ever coached in the G?
Why do you care so much? This is all from the same two guys. Stop it boys. We all know who you are.
Easy big guy.

Simple question.

No need to be so sensitive.
He's never coached anywhere. Just a street guy who watches hockey on tv. Horrible breath. Budget is 18K. Team is full of terrible kids and horrible hockey players. They will finish last by 20 pts. There. Does that check all your boxes? Feel better now?
Just a simple question about the coach. Just anyswee it if you know.
Avs 24/25 price tag is OK for the winter season, $5K with GTHL fees. The issue is the Spring Program at $2K. Lots of pushback around Dryland and the cost. There are ways to trim this budget.
Dryland for an A program at U17??? LOL
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I wouldn't trust the 5k also. At first it was estimated at 6.5k, now its down to 5k? At tryouts they will hand you the official budget. You take it or leave it. They don't have a manager yet so the detail costing is still underway.
Here's the problem with the Avs. The coach has no experience and will rely on the GM's assistant. A few weeks into the season parents will start to collude and create some disruption. They will push to fire the coach and a parent will step in along with a close friend. It will be circus for some and at ease for others. By the end of the season no one will talk to each other each will go on with their lives.
[/quote]

That's a bit dark.

The season budget should be the same as any other A team with a trainer and coach. Spring is always optional, with most kids opting in. Dryland is BS. Just have the kids do some push ups run on a treadmill or outside.

This is not a big deal. All the kids left and there were no parents to step in.

The Org decided to have a trainer handle everything, and instead of him picking a team and them asking one of the dads to coach (which would have been tough). He grabbed a coach with little experience to recruit and put a team together. It's not easy to start from scratch at this age, and they team will struggle to get good talent and will have a tough season. Should they have just folded? Maybe, but if kids want to play and trainers want to train, then why not?
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Well said above. The Spring/Dryland is not optional. If you make it optional, then you will have 7 kids and no team formation over the Spring/Summer. Remember, mostly new kids, this is not a team with a Core 12 players. Many steps for these kids to become competitive in the loop and eventually be able to win a round or two in the playoffs.
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Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:58 am
Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:34 am
Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:22 am
Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:15 am
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:53 pm
Why do you care so much? This is all from the same two guys. Stop it boys. We all know who you are.
Easy big guy.

Simple question.

No need to be so sensitive.
He's never coached anywhere. Just a street guy who watches hockey on tv. Horrible breath. Budget is 18K. Team is full of terrible kids and horrible hockey players. They will finish last by 20 pts. There. Does that check all your boxes? Feel better now?
Just a simple question about the coach. Just anyswee it if you know.
Avs 24/25 price tag is OK for the winter season, $5K with GTHL fees. The issue is the Spring Program at $2K. Lots of pushback around Dryland and the cost. There are ways to trim this budget.
Dryland for an A program at U17??? LOL
I wouldn't trust the 5k also. At first it was estimated at 6.5k, now its down to 5k? At tryouts they will hand you the official budget. You take it or leave it. They don't have a manager yet so the detail costing is still underway.
Here's the problem with the Avs. The coach has no experience and will rely on the GM's assistant. A few weeks into the season parents will start to collude and create some disruption. They will push to fire the coach and a parent will step in along with a close friend. It will be circus for some and at ease for others. By the end of the season no one will talk to each other each will go on with their lives.
[/quote]

That's a bit dark.

The season budget should be the same as any other A team with a trainer and coach. Spring is always optional, with most kids opting in. Dryland is BS. Just have the kids do some push ups run on a treadmill or outside.

This is not a big deal. All the kids left and there were no parents to step in.

The Org decided to have a trainer handle everything, and instead of him picking a team and them asking one of the dads to coach (which would have been tough). He grabbed a coach with little experience to recruit and put a team together. It's not easy to start from scratch at this age, and they team will struggle to get good talent and will have a tough season. Should they have just folded? Maybe, but if kids want to play and trainers want to train, then why not?
[/quote]
Well said above. The Spring/Dryland is not optional. If you make it optional, then you will have 7 kids and no team formation over the Spring/Summer. Remember, mostly new kids, this is not a team with a Core 12 players. Many steps for these kids to become competitive in the loop and eventually be able to win a round or two in the playoffs.
[/quote]

In this case, spring is really needed to get the team to gel and see if any cuts need to be made. They should scrap the dryland, but spring is very important.

It is what it is. I can guarantee you that this team will not make the playoffs and that most of the kids will not come back for U18. It's just going to be a very, very tough year. But the kids will be on the ice 2-3x a week for 5 months, instead of sitting in front of a screen and hopefully have a fun away tourney.

Whoever is starting S, should just let the team be. If it's a case where the team is making false promises and padding the budget, then it should be called out, but anyone getting involved with this team has to know that it's going to be and extremely tough year.

I think by this age, 99% of the parents know exactly what's going on.
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Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:50 am
Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:12 am
Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:58 am
Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:34 am
Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:22 am
Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:15 am

Easy big guy.

Simple question.

No need to be so sensitive.
He's never coached anywhere. Just a street guy who watches hockey on tv. Horrible breath. Budget is 18K. Team is full of terrible kids and horrible hockey players. They will finish last by 20 pts. There. Does that check all your boxes? Feel better now?
Just a simple question about the coach. Just anyswee it if you know.
Avs 24/25 price tag is OK for the winter season, $5K with GTHL fees. The issue is the Spring Program at $2K. Lots of pushback around Dryland and the cost. There are ways to trim this budget.
Dryland for an A program at U17??? LOL
I wouldn't trust the 5k also. At first it was estimated at 6.5k, now its down to 5k? At tryouts they will hand you the official budget. You take it or leave it. They don't have a manager yet so the detail costing is still underway.
Here's the problem with the Avs. The coach has no experience and will rely on the GM's assistant. A few weeks into the season parents will start to collude and create some disruption. They will push to fire the coach and a parent will step in along with a close friend. It will be circus for some and at ease for others. By the end of the season no one will talk to each other each will go on with their lives.
That's a bit dark.

The season budget should be the same as any other A team with a trainer and coach. Spring is always optional, with most kids opting in. Dryland is BS. Just have the kids do some push ups run on a treadmill or outside.

This is not a big deal. All the kids left and there were no parents to step in.

The Org decided to have a trainer handle everything, and instead of him picking a team and them asking one of the dads to coach (which would have been tough). He grabbed a coach with little experience to recruit and put a team together. It's not easy to start from scratch at this age, and they team will struggle to get good talent and will have a tough season. Should they have just folded? Maybe, but if kids want to play and trainers want to train, then why not?
[/quote]
Well said above. The Spring/Dryland is not optional. If you make it optional, then you will have 7 kids and no team formation over the Spring/Summer. Remember, mostly new kids, this is not a team with a Core 12 players. Many steps for these kids to become competitive in the loop and eventually be able to win a round or two in the playoffs.
[/quote]

In this case, spring is really needed to get the team to gel and see if any cuts need to be made. They should scrap the dryland, but spring is very important.

It is what it is. I can guarantee you that this team will not make the playoffs and that most of the kids will not come back for U18. It's just going to be a very, very tough year. But the kids will be on the ice 2-3x a week for 5 months, instead of sitting in front of a screen and hopefully have a fun away tourney.

Whoever is starting S, should just let the team be. If it's a case where the team is making false promises and padding the budget, then it should be called out, but anyone getting involved with this team has to know that it's going to be and extremely tough year.

I think by this age, 99% of the parents know exactly what's going on.
[/quote]

In my experience as a coach, all my money was made in the spring. You join 2-3 tournaments and a few skate sessions and can easily make $1000 per player. on a team of 16 that's 16k profit, the winter season just pays you for travel and getting out of the house. Kids that don't join the spring will get less ice come the fall. If you don't know this by now after 10+ years of minor hockey then your convincing yourself otherwise.
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Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:50 am
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Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:58 am
Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:34 am
Guest wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:22 am
He's never coached anywhere. Just a street guy who watches hockey on tv. Horrible breath. Budget is 18K. Team is full of terrible kids and horrible hockey players. They will finish last by 20 pts. There. Does that check all your boxes? Feel better now?
Just a simple question about the coach. Just anyswee it if you know.
Avs 24/25 price tag is OK for the winter season, $5K with GTHL fees. The issue is the Spring Program at $2K. Lots of pushback around Dryland and the cost. There are ways to trim this budget.
Dryland for an A program at U17??? LOL
I wouldn't trust the 5k also. At first it was estimated at 6.5k, now its down to 5k? At tryouts they will hand you the official budget. You take it or leave it. They don't have a manager yet so the detail costing is still underway.
Here's the problem with the Avs. The coach has no experience and will rely on the GM's assistant. A few weeks into the season parents will start to collude and create some disruption. They will push to fire the coach and a parent will step in along with a close friend. It will be circus for some and at ease for others. By the end of the season no one will talk to each other each will go on with their lives.
That's a bit dark.

The season budget should be the same as any other A team with a trainer and coach. Spring is always optional, with most kids opting in. Dryland is BS. Just have the kids do some push ups run on a treadmill or outside.

This is not a big deal. All the kids left and there were no parents to step in.

The Org decided to have a trainer handle everything, and instead of him picking a team and them asking one of the dads to coach (which would have been tough). He grabbed a coach with little experience to recruit and put a team together. It's not easy to start from scratch at this age, and they team will struggle to get good talent and will have a tough season. Should they have just folded? Maybe, but if kids want to play and trainers want to train, then why not?
Well said above. The Spring/Dryland is not optional. If you make it optional, then you will have 7 kids and no team formation over the Spring/Summer. Remember, mostly new kids, this is not a team with a Core 12 players. Many steps for these kids to become competitive in the loop and eventually be able to win a round or two in the playoffs.
[/quote]

In this case, spring is really needed to get the team to gel and see if any cuts need to be made. They should scrap the dryland, but spring is very important.

It is what it is. I can guarantee you that this team will not make the playoffs and that most of the kids will not come back for U18. It's just going to be a very, very tough year. But the kids will be on the ice 2-3x a week for 5 months, instead of sitting in front of a screen and hopefully have a fun away tourney.

Whoever is starting S, should just let the team be. If it's a case where the team is making false promises and padding the budget, then it should be called out, but anyone getting involved with this team has to know that it's going to be and extremely tough year.

I think by this age, 99% of the parents know exactly what's going on.
[/quote]

In my experience as a coach, all my money was made in the spring. You join 2-3 tournaments and a few skate sessions and can easily make $1000 per player. on a team of 16 that's 16k profit, the winter season just pays you for travel and getting out of the house. Kids that don't join the spring will get less ice come the fall. If you don't know this by now after 10+ years of minor hockey then your convincing yourself otherwise.
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I don't get why you 'make' money in the spring. Charge what the cost is, same as winter. There should be no 'profit' in a budget. It should all be allocated to ice .. games, practices, trainers etc. Yes, I have been in hockey for 10+ years but none of the teams that I have been apart of have had Dryland/Spring Program .. especially at $2K. I have done Canlan/Carnevale but cost was like $400/kid max. I get gelling the team but want to make sure team is doing it in a very budget conscious way.
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Just a simple question about the coach. Just anyswee it if you know.
Avs 24/25 price tag is OK for the winter season, $5K with GTHL fees. The issue is the Spring Program at $2K. Lots of pushback around Dryland and the cost. There are ways to trim this budget.
Dryland for an A program at U17??? LOL
I wouldn't trust the 5k also. At first it was estimated at 6.5k, now its down to 5k? At tryouts they will hand you the official budget. You take it or leave it. They don't have a manager yet so the detail costing is still underway.
Here's the problem with the Avs. The coach has no experience and will rely on the GM's assistant. A few weeks into the season parents will start to collude and create some disruption. They will push to fire the coach and a parent will step in along with a close friend. It will be circus for some and at ease for others. By the end of the season no one will talk to each other each will go on with their lives.
That's a bit dark.

The season budget should be the same as any other A team with a trainer and coach. Spring is always optional, with most kids opting in. Dryland is BS. Just have the kids do some push ups run on a treadmill or outside.

This is not a big deal. All the kids left and there were no parents to step in.

The Org decided to have a trainer handle everything, and instead of him picking a team and them asking one of the dads to coach (which would have been tough). He grabbed a coach with little experience to recruit and put a team together. It's not easy to start from scratch at this age, and they team will struggle to get good talent and will have a tough season. Should they have just folded? Maybe, but if kids want to play and trainers want to train, then why not?
Well said above. The Spring/Dryland is not optional. If you make it optional, then you will have 7 kids and no team formation over the Spring/Summer. Remember, mostly new kids, this is not a team with a Core 12 players. Many steps for these kids to become competitive in the loop and eventually be able to win a round or two in the playoffs.
In this case, spring is really needed to get the team to gel and see if any cuts need to be made. They should scrap the dryland, but spring is very important.

It is what it is. I can guarantee you that this team will not make the playoffs and that most of the kids will not come back for U18. It's just going to be a very, very tough year. But the kids will be on the ice 2-3x a week for 5 months, instead of sitting in front of a screen and hopefully have a fun away tourney.

Whoever is starting S, should just let the team be. If it's a case where the team is making false promises and padding the budget, then it should be called out, but anyone getting involved with this team has to know that it's going to be and extremely tough year.

I think by this age, 99% of the parents know exactly what's going on.
[/quote]

In my experience as a coach, all my money was made in the spring. You join 2-3 tournaments and a few skate sessions and can easily make $1000 per player. on a team of 16 that's 16k profit, the winter season just pays you for travel and getting out of the house. Kids that don't join the spring will get less ice come the fall. If you don't know this by now after 10+ years of minor hockey then your convincing yourself otherwise.
[/quote]

I don't get why you 'make' money in the spring. Charge what the cost is, same as winter. There should be no 'profit' in a budget. It should all be allocated to ice .. games, practices, trainers etc. Yes, I have been in hockey for 10+ years but none of the teams that I have been apart of have had Dryland/Spring Program .. especially at $2K. I have done Canlan/Carnevale but cost was like $400/kid max. I get gelling the team but want to make sure team is doing it in a very budget conscious way.
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Coaches and trainers have gotten smarter. Those days of 20 dollar drop in sessions are gone. The Avs were charging 50 bucks a skate and will make easily 15k on spring hockey. Then you will get the budget surprise at tryouts and stare at everyone thinking about what they are thinking realizing that you just got douped.
Good night everyone, I'm sleeping nice at night.
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HVS over VP and Avs over TE tonight.
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