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Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:54 am Some of you are so naive, doesn’t matter where you play - talent will rise to the top.

No issue with half ice or full ice options, mine played full ice… but just because you learned what an offside was 2 years earlier and where to lineup on a faceoff isn’t going to change your skill level in the long run. Options are great, and of course kids who played full ice earlier will obviously look better earlier on full ice… there were 2014 teams that played full ice the year before and came out the gate extremely well, and then faded into nothing once the others in the loop figured out their positional play.

Do what’s right for you… and leave it at that…. But athletic kids who are on the ice (no matter what type of play) will rise to the top. That’s just how it is.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:19 am Very little change?

Every G 2014 team including the top teams changed out 5 or more players going into next year. That’s over 30% change.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:19 am Very little change?

Every G 2014 team including the top teams changed out 5 or more players going into next year. That’s over 30% change.

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Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:19 am Very little change?

Every G 2014 team including the top teams changed out 5 or more players going into next year. That’s over 30% change.

In the OMHA, from what I've seen, they often go parent coaches for u10 and u11. You and your kid has to be in the clique if you want a fair shot at those teams. At u12, paid coaches come in, but they also open it up to more imports. So your kid has to be a legit AAA player by that time.

In the G, the top teams do change year to year, but usually pluck the top kids from the mid to bottom teams. There will always be spots to be had on the bottom teams, every year.

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Is it the WW or North Shore? How do you think those teams will end up now that there’s one less AAA team and all those KSL kids in Durham region looking for a home, especially since the North Shore coach is not from KSL.

KSL kids take every single spot and the other MD kids are left in the cold.

Program is better there sadly. Appears best route to AAA is through KSL. Is it fair to those who stayed nope, but there is no consequences either so… would recommend anyone looking for development toward rep level to go to KSL before U10.

Agreed. better product.

That doesn't mean a kid who is phenomenal couldn't make a AAA team from an MD program - but playing the full ice game prior to tryouts, understanding positioning, understanding break outs, etc all make kids look WAY better.

Most tryouts are just scrimmages after usually one day of pure skating. So if you want your kid to make a AAA team:

1. Be an amazing skater
2. learn how to play full ice

be aware 2016s for next year.

Get your kids name out there. Some coaches pick kids off name alone.

This was the TYN strategy.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:14 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:54 am Some of you are so naive, doesn’t matter where you play - talent will rise to the top.

No issue with half ice or full ice options, mine played full ice… but just because you learned what an offside was 2 years earlier and where to lineup on a faceoff isn’t going to change your skill level in the long run. Options are great, and of course kids who played full ice earlier will obviously look better earlier on full ice… there were 2014 teams that played full ice the year before and came out the gate extremely well, and then faded into nothing once the others in the loop figured out their positional play.

Do what’s right for you… and leave it at that…. But athletic kids who are on the ice (no matter what type of play) will rise to the top. That’s just how it is.

You didn't argue a single point to what ANYONE said.

Yes the top kids will make any team they try out for. But, for the kids who aren't top 2 or 3 on the ice. Full-ice is going to give them a huge advantage to making a team. If you think its just about offsides and where to line up on a face-off you know NOTHING of hockey.

Full ice is teaching kids how to:

Break out plays from their own end
Transitional defense through the neutral zone
Defense understanding of when to pinch
forwards carrying the puck through space and making plays with the puck to their line-mates
Understanding line changes and the dynamics of when its appropriate and when its not - also being cognizant of what your line mates are doing
Short handed play
Power play
Using your defense for bump plays in the offensive zone
understanding team defense in the defensive zone
goalie timing (blue line and inwards)
goalie angles
full size nets for them

I could keep going and going.... So I think its absolutely ridiculous for you or anyone to belittle the fact that the kids playing is the KSL aren't being set up for success in the future. But, yes, one last time - the VERY BEST KIDS will still make teams from an MD program.

Once a team is set in U10 - there is very little change from one year to the next. So spots are limited and its much more difficult to make a team.