2018 Learn to Play to AAA

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2018 Learn to Play to AAA

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My kid can kinda skate, he’s stall, slowly learning to stop and skate backwards, intense compete
Anyone else find the Learn to Skate programs aren’t that great, ie its just ice time
We are lucky to live near a solid centre in East Toronto so there’s private skate schools and other opps for ice time
Wondering if there is a point to registering for a house league next year (the sat/sun morning times are just awful)
One benefit is the select team but at U7 its banger hockey at best and really dependent on 1-3 players who can wheel around and they don’t even pass
Do they even keep score?
The thought of driving to the 401 or even to North Toronto for 6pm sounds like a nightmare
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Guest wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:59 am My kid can kinda skate, he’s stall, slowly learning to stop and skate backwards, intense compete
Anyone else find the Learn to Skate programs aren’t that great, ie its just ice time
We are lucky to live near a solid centre in East Toronto so there’s private skate schools and other opps for ice time
Wondering if there is a point to registering for a house league next year (the sat/sun morning times are just awful)
One benefit is the select team but at U7 its banger hockey at best and really dependent on 1-3 players who can wheel around and they don’t even pass
Do they even keep score?
The thought of driving to the 401 or even to North Toronto for 6pm sounds like a nightmare
Although you are right...sometimes at that young of an age its better to just put them in private skating lessons instead of Timbits or whatever league you city people have.

there are things you kid would be sort of missing out on (not crucial, but its something) playing on the ice in a team setting. Following instructions. making friends that they might one day play higher level hockey with.

There are "other options" out there for hockey that young. KSL will have full ice hockey for 2018s next year. Coaching and "other training" is dependent on each team (like any other hockey). No idea whats in your specific area as far as "Toronto teams" but there are the Toronto Raiders, Toronto Stars, and Toronto Aces all in "Toronto"

good luck.
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Guest wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:17 am
Guest wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:59 am My kid can kinda skate, he’s stall, slowly learning to stop and skate backwards, intense compete
Anyone else find the Learn to Skate programs aren’t that great, ie its just ice time
We are lucky to live near a solid centre in East Toronto so there’s private skate schools and other opps for ice time
Wondering if there is a point to registering for a house league next year (the sat/sun morning times are just awful)
One benefit is the select team but at U7 its banger hockey at best and really dependent on 1-3 players who can wheel around and they don’t even pass
Do they even keep score?
The thought of driving to the 401 or even to North Toronto for 6pm sounds like a nightmare
Although you are right...sometimes at that young of an age its better to just put them in private skating lessons instead of Timbits or whatever league you city people have.

there are things you kid would be sort of missing out on (not crucial, but its something) playing on the ice in a team setting. Following instructions. making friends that they might one day play higher level hockey with.

There are "other options" out there for hockey that young. KSL will have full ice hockey for 2018s next year. Coaching and "other training" is dependent on each team (like any other hockey). No idea whats in your specific area as far as "Toronto teams" but there are the Toronto Raiders, Toronto Stars, and Toronto Aces all in "Toronto"

good luck.
Junior Wings is also a good program
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Guest wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:59 am
Wondering if there is a point to registering for a house league next year (the sat/sun morning times are just awful)
Awful for the kids or awful because you don't want to get up that early? My opinion - weekend mornings are great once you get into the rhythm, leaves the rest of the day open still and at that age weeknights are typically early (5-6pm) and really hard if you also commute for work.
They are early because of the half boards that go up and come back down, no sense doing that multiple times a day or you are just wasting ice time.
If he can "kinda skate" and you have AAA in your future vision just start with power skating for now, get him moving first. Shoot pucks at home.
Recommend you also read up on the IP program across Canada and US - https://gthlcanada.com/initiation-progr ... ce-hockey/
As others have mentioned KSL is an alternative, but by the way you describe it your son may have a ways to go first.
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Guest wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:17 am
Guest wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:59 am My kid can kinda skate, he’s stall, slowly learning to stop and skate backwards, intense compete
Anyone else find the Learn to Skate programs aren’t that great, ie its just ice time
We are lucky to live near a solid centre in East Toronto so there’s private skate schools and other opps for ice time
Wondering if there is a point to registering for a house league next year (the sat/sun morning times are just awful)
One benefit is the select team but at U7 its banger hockey at best and really dependent on 1-3 players who can wheel around and they don’t even pass
Do they even keep score?
The thought of driving to the 401 or even to North Toronto for 6pm sounds like a nightmare
Although you are right...sometimes at that young of an age its better to just put them in private skating lessons instead of Timbits or whatever league you city people have.

there are things you kid would be sort of missing out on (not crucial, but its something) playing on the ice in a team setting. Following instructions. making friends that they might one day play higher level hockey with.

There are "other options" out there for hockey that young. KSL will have full ice hockey for 2018s next year. Coaching and "other training" is dependent on each team (like any other hockey). No idea whats in your specific area as far as "Toronto teams" but there are the Toronto Raiders, Toronto Stars, and Toronto Aces all in "Toronto"

good luck.
KSL coach clearly posted both comments to try and drum up interest. So lame.

CDS/CDP is the best experience for ice time and development of a young skater. Anyone who tells you otherwise has a vested interest in you going somewhere else for high fees and poor development.
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Guest wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:47 am
Guest wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:17 am
Guest wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:59 am My kid can kinda skate, he’s stall, slowly learning to stop and skate backwards, intense compete
Anyone else find the Learn to Skate programs aren’t that great, ie its just ice time
We are lucky to live near a solid centre in East Toronto so there’s private skate schools and other opps for ice time
Wondering if there is a point to registering for a house league next year (the sat/sun morning times are just awful)
One benefit is the select team but at U7 its banger hockey at best and really dependent on 1-3 players who can wheel around and they don’t even pass
Do they even keep score?
The thought of driving to the 401 or even to North Toronto for 6pm sounds like a nightmare
Although you are right...sometimes at that young of an age its better to just put them in private skating lessons instead of Timbits or whatever league you city people have.

there are things you kid would be sort of missing out on (not crucial, but its something) playing on the ice in a team setting. Following instructions. making friends that they might one day play higher level hockey with.

There are "other options" out there for hockey that young. KSL will have full ice hockey for 2018s next year. Coaching and "other training" is dependent on each team (like any other hockey). No idea whats in your specific area as far as "Toronto teams" but there are the Toronto Raiders, Toronto Stars, and Toronto Aces all in "Toronto"

good luck.
KSL coach clearly posted both comments to try and drum up interest. So lame.

CDS/CDP is the best experience for ice time and development of a young skater. Anyone who tells you otherwise has a vested interest in you going somewhere else for high fees and poor development.
Agreed with CDS and add in some power skating lessons or camps and that’s a good foundation for development.
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CDS/CDP/NYHL
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Re: 2018 Learn to Play to AAA

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Guest wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:53 am
Guest wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:47 am
CDS/CDP is the best experience for ice time and development of a young skater. Anyone who tells you otherwise has a vested interest in you going somewhere else for high fees and poor development.
Agreed with CDS and add in some power skating lessons or camps and that’s a good foundation for development.
3rd this. We do CDP and it's been a great way to try more competition and higher level stuff, and then do some drop-in skating / stride skills depending on game and practice schedules
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To toss my 2 cents in... I had my 2018 son play in the U7 2017 house league this year at a CDS/CDP centre (rather than do their LTP).

Things like "having teammates", a "real jersey" and playing "real games" really amped up my son's interest in Hockey. He already loved it, but this stuff certainly helped... which you would miss out on if you just did local powerskating and whatever other classes.

That said, this was despite a pretty underwhelming house league product. The practices had multiple teams on the ice at once so maybe 45-50 kids all in... And the games were a bit disorganized with the on-ice staff not being very engaged. But hey my son doesn't know any better is still having a blast, for what it's worth.

A lot of his teammates are playing in the CDS/CDP program at this centre. So basically the CDS/CDP schedule is regular house league participation, plus CDS/CDP games and extra 1-2 CDS/CDP practices a week. I got the impression it's been a pretty hectic schedule and yeah they are driving pretty far across the GTA on random weeknights (especially when a CDS team plays a CDP team). Other folks chiming in here seem to be really happy with theses programs though....

Can't comment first hand on Klevr, but anecdotally a lot of those teams (Young Kings and the Toronto ones) already have 2018 groups together and these kids are going bardownski etc. already.
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Guest wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:30 am To toss my 2 cents in... I had my 2018 son play in the U7 2017 house league this year at a CDS/CDP centre (rather than do their LTP).

Things like "having teammates", a "real jersey" and playing "real games" really amped up my son's interest in Hockey. He already loved it, but this stuff certainly helped... which you would miss out on if you just did local powerskating and whatever other classes.

That said, this was despite a pretty underwhelming house league product. The practices had multiple teams on the ice at once so maybe 45-50 kids all in... And the games were a bit disorganized with the on-ice staff not being very engaged. But hey my son doesn't know any better is still having a blast, for what it's worth.

A lot of his teammates are playing in the CDS/CDP program at this centre. So basically the CDS/CDP schedule is regular house league participation, plus CDS/CDP games and extra 1-2 CDS/CDP practices a week. I got the impression it's been a pretty hectic schedule and yeah they are driving pretty far across the GTA on random weeknights (especially when a CDS team plays a CDP team). Other folks chiming in here seem to be really happy with theses programs though....

Can't comment first hand on Klevr, but anecdotally a lot of those teams (Young Kings and the Toronto ones) already have 2018 groups together and these kids are going bardownski etc. already.
Looks like the Klevr guy is back to give misleading comments cloaked as someone who’s not involved in Klevr. I see through you.

CDS and CDP do not play each other until full ice in Novice. So the last 3 months of CDS/CDP. Anything prior to that is rare and usually an exhibition game.

They are both by far the best development programs for young players. Budgets are low and games are generally same night each week at a close arena. Use the extra time and money on individual skill development like power skating.
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