Minor Hockey Talks - Hockey Forum

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:32 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:30 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:58 pm If the environment, and not just EMC but all boards, was a little more inviting you might be able to attract a board comprised of ALL non parents who would potentially provide a bit more balance.

Like non parent coaches with experience...everyone calls for them, praises them but once they make independent decisions they are jumped on.

Emc has had very corrupt non parent board members.
Non parents do not guarantee any improvement or “balance”. There is little to no motivation for a non parent to be involved in minor hockey boards or even coaching younger teams.
Most parent volunteers are actually in it for the right reasons and in many instances will work harder for an org because they want it to be the best situation for their kids and the people in their community. The real problem are conniving, manipulative and selfish parents. They are guilty of everything they accuse the board of. They would NEVER do anything to benefit any kids but their own so they can’t understand why decent people would do it. Get involved and make a difference but be careful you might help someone youre not related to in the process..

I agreed with you, until your backhanded comment at the end, which seemed unnecessary. There are good people involved at all levels but there are also bad people. Coaches decide their team culture. The minute they make one back door deal their credibility and team culture blows up. There is a lot that can be done to restore respect in the sport and create a healthy competitive environment, but it needs to start with the board, and the coaches.

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:08 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:32 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:30 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:58 pm If the environment, and not just EMC but all boards, was a little more inviting you might be able to attract a board comprised of ALL non parents who would potentially provide a bit more balance.

Like non parent coaches with experience...everyone calls for them, praises them but once they make independent decisions they are jumped on.

Emc has had very corrupt non parent board members.
Non parents do not guarantee any improvement or “balance”. There is little to no motivation for a non parent to be involved in minor hockey boards or even coaching younger teams.
Most parent volunteers are actually in it for the right reasons and in many instances will work harder for an org because they want it to be the best situation for their kids and the people in their community. The real problem are conniving, manipulative and selfish parents. They are guilty of everything they accuse the board of. They would NEVER do anything to benefit any kids but their own so they can’t understand why decent people would do it. Get involved and make a difference but be careful you might help someone youre not related to in the process..

I agreed with you, until your backhanded comment at the end, which seemed unnecessary. There are good people involved at all levels but there are also bad people. Coaches decide their team culture. The minute they make one back door deal their credibility and team culture blows up. There is a lot that can be done to restore respect in the sport and create a healthy competitive environment, but it needs to start with the board, and the coaches.

This is bang on the money. Wishing all the kids best of luck during tryout season. Hope everyone is able to stay grounded

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:32 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:30 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:58 pm If the environment, and not just EMC but all boards, was a little more inviting you might be able to attract a board comprised of ALL non parents who would potentially provide a bit more balance.

Like non parent coaches with experience...everyone calls for them, praises them but once they make independent decisions they are jumped on.

Emc has had very corrupt non parent board members.
Non parents do not guarantee any improvement or “balance”. There is little to no motivation for a non parent to be involved in minor hockey boards or even coaching younger teams.
Most parent volunteers are actually in it for the right reasons and in many instances will work harder for an org because they want it to be the best situation for their kids and the people in their community. The real problem are conniving, manipulative and selfish parents. They are guilty of everything they accuse the board of. They would NEVER do anything to benefit any kids but their own so they can’t understand why decent people would do it. Get involved and make a difference but be careful you might help someone youre not related to in the process..

I agreed with you, until your backhanded comment at the end, which seemed unnecessary. There are good people involved at all levels but there are also bad people. Coaches decide their team culture. The minute they make one back door deal their credibility and team culture blows up. There is a lot that can be done to restore respect in the sport and create a healthy competitive environment, but it needs to start with the board, and the coaches.

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:32 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:30 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:58 pm If the environment, and not just EMC but all boards, was a little more inviting you might be able to attract a board comprised of ALL non parents who would potentially provide a bit more balance.

Like non parent coaches with experience...everyone calls for them, praises them but once they make independent decisions they are jumped on.

Emc has had very corrupt non parent board members.
Non parents do not guarantee any improvement or “balance”. There is little to no motivation for a non parent to be involved in minor hockey boards or even coaching younger teams.
Most parent volunteers are actually in it for the right reasons and in many instances will work harder for an org because they want it to be the best situation for their kids and the people in their community. The real problem are conniving, manipulative and selfish parents. They are guilty of everything they accuse the board of. They would NEVER do anything to benefit any kids but their own so they can’t understand why decent people would do it. Get involved and make a difference but be careful you might help someone youre not related to in the process..

I agreed with you, until your backhanded comment at the end, which seemed unnecessary. There are good people involved at all levels but there are also bad people. Coaches decide their team culture. The minute they make one back door deal their credibility and team culture blows up. There is a lot that can be done to restore respect in the sport and create a healthy competitive environment, but it needs to start with the board, and the coaches.

Coaches like this have no respect for the board- the board cant help.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:44 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:32 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:30 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:58 pm If the environment, and not just EMC but all boards, was a little more inviting you might be able to attract a board comprised of ALL non parents who would potentially provide a bit more balance.

Like non parent coaches with experience...everyone calls for them, praises them but once they make independent decisions they are jumped on.

Emc has had very corrupt non parent board members.
Non parents do not guarantee any improvement or “balance”. There is little to no motivation for a non parent to be involved in minor hockey boards or even coaching younger teams.
Most parent volunteers are actually in it for the right reasons and in many instances will work harder for an org because they want it to be the best situation for their kids and the people in their community. The real problem are conniving, manipulative and selfish parents. They are guilty of everything they accuse the board of. They would NEVER do anything to benefit any kids but their own so they can’t understand why decent people would do it. Get involved and make a difference but be careful you might help someone youre not related to in the process..

I agreed with you, until your backhanded comment at the end, which seemed unnecessary. There are good people involved at all levels but there are also bad people. Coaches decide their team culture. The minute they make one back door deal their credibility and team culture blows up. There is a lot that can be done to restore respect in the sport and create a healthy competitive environment, but it needs to start with the board, and the coaches.

Coaches like this have no respect for the board- the board cant help.

Gotta wonder how they keep getting back in

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:44 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:32 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:30 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:58 pm If the environment, and not just EMC but all boards, was a little more inviting you might be able to attract a board comprised of ALL non parents who would potentially provide a bit more balance.

Like non parent coaches with experience...everyone calls for them, praises them but once they make independent decisions they are jumped on.

Emc has had very corrupt non parent board members.
Non parents do not guarantee any improvement or “balance”. There is little to no motivation for a non parent to be involved in minor hockey boards or even coaching younger teams.
Most parent volunteers are actually in it for the right reasons and in many instances will work harder for an org because they want it to be the best situation for their kids and the people in their community. The real problem are conniving, manipulative and selfish parents. They are guilty of everything they accuse the board of. They would NEVER do anything to benefit any kids but their own so they can’t understand why decent people would do it. Get involved and make a difference but be careful you might help someone youre not related to in the process..

I agreed with you, until your backhanded comment at the end, which seemed unnecessary. There are good people involved at all levels but there are also bad people. Coaches decide their team culture. The minute they make one back door deal their credibility and team culture blows up. There is a lot that can be done to restore respect in the sport and create a healthy competitive environment, but it needs to start with the board, and the coaches.

Coaches like this have no respect for the board- the board cant help.

Gotta wonder how they keep getting back in

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:21 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:44 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:32 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:30 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:58 pm If the environment, and not just EMC but all boards, was a little more inviting you might be able to attract a board comprised of ALL non parents who would potentially provide a bit more balance.

Like non parent coaches with experience...everyone calls for them, praises them but once they make independent decisions they are jumped on.

Emc has had very corrupt non parent board members.
Non parents do not guarantee any improvement or “balance”. There is little to no motivation for a non parent to be involved in minor hockey boards or even coaching younger teams.
Most parent volunteers are actually in it for the right reasons and in many instances will work harder for an org because they want it to be the best situation for their kids and the people in their community. The real problem are conniving, manipulative and selfish parents. They are guilty of everything they accuse the board of. They would NEVER do anything to benefit any kids but their own so they can’t understand why decent people would do it. Get involved and make a difference but be careful you might help someone youre not related to in the process..

I agreed with you, until your backhanded comment at the end, which seemed unnecessary. There are good people involved at all levels but there are also bad people. Coaches decide their team culture. The minute they make one back door deal their credibility and team culture blows up. There is a lot that can be done to restore respect in the sport and create a healthy competitive environment, but it needs to start with the board, and the coaches.

Coaches like this have no respect for the board- the board cant help.

Gotta wonder how they keep getting back in

Friends and family discount, known bad coaches have beat out great candidates for a number of reasons. Board control and or influence. Coach selection control or influence. Manipulation, lying, favours. Long lost friendships and people in higher circles. If you all really knew the amount of stuff in the closet or swept under the rug you would be shocked. Dream it up Because YES it has likely already happened. The favours one is probably the most creative and shocking.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:53 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:21 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:44 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:32 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:30 am

Emc has had very corrupt non parent board members.
Non parents do not guarantee any improvement or “balance”. There is little to no motivation for a non parent to be involved in minor hockey boards or even coaching younger teams.
Most parent volunteers are actually in it for the right reasons and in many instances will work harder for an org because they want it to be the best situation for their kids and the people in their community. The real problem are conniving, manipulative and selfish parents. They are guilty of everything they accuse the board of. They would NEVER do anything to benefit any kids but their own so they can’t understand why decent people would do it. Get involved and make a difference but be careful you might help someone youre not related to in the process..

I agreed with you, until your backhanded comment at the end, which seemed unnecessary. There are good people involved at all levels but there are also bad people. Coaches decide their team culture. The minute they make one back door deal their credibility and team culture blows up. There is a lot that can be done to restore respect in the sport and create a healthy competitive environment, but it needs to start with the board, and the coaches.

Coaches like this have no respect for the board- the board cant help.

Gotta wonder how they keep getting back in

Friends and family discount, known bad coaches have beat out great candidates for a number of reasons. Board control and or influence. Coach selection control or influence. Manipulation, lying, favours. Long lost friendships and people in higher circles. If you all really knew the amount of stuff in the closet or swept under the rug you would be shocked. Dream it up Because YES it has likely already happened. The favours one is probably the most creative and shocking.

The board doesnt pick coaches. The coach mentor picks them. We have had mentors that were manipulated in the past but this year it was jw - he was not influenced- all the picks are his - the board had nothing to do with coach selection.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:06 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:53 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:21 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:44 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:32 am

I agreed with you, until your backhanded comment at the end, which seemed unnecessary. There are good people involved at all levels but there are also bad people. Coaches decide their team culture. The minute they make one back door deal their credibility and team culture blows up. There is a lot that can be done to restore respect in the sport and create a healthy competitive environment, but it needs to start with the board, and the coaches.

Coaches like this have no respect for the board- the board cant help.

Gotta wonder how they keep getting back in

Friends and family discount, known bad coaches have beat out great candidates for a number of reasons. Board control and or influence. Coach selection control or influence. Manipulation, lying, favours. Long lost friendships and people in higher circles. If you all really knew the amount of stuff in the closet or swept under the rug you would be shocked. Dream it up Because YES it has likely already happened. The favours one is probably the most creative and shocking.

The board doesnt pick coaches. The coach mentor picks them. We have had mentors that were manipulated in the past but this year it was jw - he was not influenced- all the picks are his - the board had nothing to do with coach selection.

good scapegoat