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Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:27 am you can tell it is a parent cut. you probably got pissed off and mentioned your son played a higher level multiple times or complained about ice time or your son is actually trash.

no coach cuts a good player. he may be equal with other players, but because his dad is a peasant they told you to beat it.

Most insightful take on this whole sob story. Tons of kids get cut every season. And 99% of the time it’s about skill. Only two reasons a coach would say it’s about fit:
1. The kid has behavioral issues on or off the ice.
2. The parent is jerk.
The part about other kids being from rich families tells me it’s #2. No team is made up of 16 super wealthy families and one that’s blue collar. Guaranteed there are other not-so-wealthy kids on the team who will be back next year.

Some coaches are just clueless when it comes to evaluating talent. We have a family on our team (one of the top teams right now in our division) the kid started the season off being one of the bottom kids in terms of skills, but his dad decided he doesn’t want the kid to be the worst on the team so he has him in 2 extra skates a week. The family fits in very well and right now kid is top 5 skater on the team and he battles, has good size, I found out they were told kid might get cut if they find someone better while there are 6 kids at least who didn’t improve and are clearly worst than this kid, he been scoring every game during the playoffs, gritty goals. In this case I would say good riddance, your kid will develop better if you move on. Getting cut isn’t always bad, when you talk to your son tell him there are other opportunities and have him work harder, use that as motivation and not be a victim.

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Guest wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:59 pm ^^^ you're such a tool and you're advice is awful

1) nothing in life is permanent and it has nothing to do with "needing" to get better.
2) parent can give the lay of the land, but in the end the kid decides and learns to own his decision. full stop.
3) playing for himself only validates the coaches decision and maybe even turn his friends and teammates against him. the worst advice anyone can give a kid in a team sport. play hard and play right til its over.
4) clearly was a good year, as the kid wants to stay. teach the kid to appreciate the positives and to take the hight road. he's not thanking him for cutting him, duh.
5) drive him to be better? it's single A.

Tons of kids get cut every year, it's part of minor hockey and has nothing to do with failure.

I'm going to be 3rd man in here but, what in heck are you talking about? You think kids in Single A, especially at his age don't care and should not be trying to get better? What kind of a fool tells a kid not to try and get better?

We are talking about this experience as a teaching moment. Most kids these days are bubble wrapped and pampered well into their teens and lack the ability cope with adversity or in this case being handed a shit sandwich. There's a good life lesson here, and it has nothing to do with "getting better" at hockey.

But okay, you want the kid to believe that if he gets better, he won't get cut next year. So how does the "tool" help this 11 year old single A player get better, so that he doesn't get cut from his next team? Power Skating Lessons, Shooting Lessons, Private Skills Sessions, Dryland Training, Road Work, Sports Psychologist, Nutritionist, Performance Enhancing Supplements, 10 weeks of summer hockey camp, spring hockey?

Every kid in rep hockey (all levels) should be striving to improve, whether they are the best player on a first place team or the 10th forward on a last place team. It has nothing to do with getting cut.

Is the tool you? Cuz you're the only who se me to be missing th border point. Which as I read it, states use this adversity of being cut to drive you more. To hate being cut and this to use this as motivation. Who on earth did you miss that point fella?

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:40 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:06 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:57 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:58 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:59 pm ^^^ you're such a tool and you're advice is awful

1) nothing in life is permanent and it has nothing to do with "needing" to get better.
2) parent can give the lay of the land, but in the end the kid decides and learns to own his decision. full stop.
3) playing for himself only validates the coaches decision and maybe even turn his friends and teammates against him. the worst advice anyone can give a kid in a team sport. play hard and play right til its over.
4) clearly was a good year, as the kid wants to stay. teach the kid to appreciate the positives and to take the hight road. he's not thanking him for cutting him, duh.
5) drive him to be better? it's single A.

Tons of kids get cut every year, it's part of minor hockey and has nothing to do with failure.

I'm going to be 3rd man in here but, what in heck are you talking about? You think kids in Single A, especially at his age don't care and should not be trying to get better? What kind of a fool tells a kid not to try and get better?

We are talking about this experience as a teaching moment. Most kids these days are bubble wrapped and pampered well into their teens and lack the ability cope with adversity or in this case being handed a shit sandwich. There's a good life lesson here, and it has nothing to do with "getting better" at hockey.

But okay, you want the kid to believe that if he gets better, he won't get cut next year. So how does the "tool" help this 11 year old single A player get better, so that he doesn't get cut from his next team? Power Skating Lessons, Shooting Lessons, Private Skills Sessions, Dryland Training, Road Work, Sports Psychologist, Nutritionist, Performance Enhancing Supplements, 10 weeks of summer hockey camp, spring hockey?

Every kid in rep hockey (all levels) should be striving to improve, whether they are the best player on a first place team or the 10th forward on a last place team. It has nothing to do with getting cut.

Is the tool you? Cuz you're the only who se me to be missing th border point. Which as I read it, states use this adversity of being cut to drive you more. To hate being cut and this to use this as motivation. Who on earth did you miss that point fella?

"Explaining How Politics work, to your 11 year old son", its the title of the post.


The kid needs to learn that there are variables in life that are beyond his control, and sometimes these variables will determine the outcome no matter how good he gets or how hard he tries or how bad he wants it. In the end, sometimes the wrong people are rewarded for the wrong reasons and such is life. Feeling disappointed is normal, but no reason to quit or think any less of himself. Take what he's learned and seek out new opportunities, and it would a good time to re-evaluate his own process as well as his expectations. If he's satisfied, then keep on truckin, if he's not then set new goals and get to work.

I get what you're saying, but it's not the same as being taken off PP, moved to the wing, or to the third line. Associating "getting cut" with the "need for self-improvement", is the wrong message.

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Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:46 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:24 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:27 am you can tell it is a parent cut. you probably got pissed off and mentioned your son played a higher level multiple times or complained about ice time or your son is actually trash.

no coach cuts a good player. he may be equal with other players, but because his dad is a peasant they told you to beat it.

Most insightful take on this whole sob story. Tons of kids get cut every season. And 99% of the time it’s about skill. Only two reasons a coach would say it’s about fit:
1. The kid has behavioral issues on or off the ice.
2. The parent is jerk.
The part about other kids being from rich families tells me it’s #2. No team is made up of 16 super wealthy families and one that’s blue collar. Guaranteed there are other not-so-wealthy kids on the team who will be back next year.

Some coaches are just clueless when it comes to evaluating talent. We have a family on our team (one of the top teams right now in our division) the kid started the season off being one of the bottom kids in terms of skills, but his dad decided he doesn’t want the kid to be the worst on the team so he has him in 2 extra skates a week. The family fits in very well and right now kid is top 5 skater on the team and he battles, has good size, I found out they were told kid might get cut if they find someone better while there are 6 kids at least who didn’t improve and are clearly worst than this kid, he been scoring every game during the playoffs, gritty goals. In this case I would say good riddance, your kid will develop better if you move on. Getting cut isn’t always bad, when you talk to your son tell him there are other opportunities and have him work harder, use that as motivation and not be a victim.

There is no "evaluating" in cases like this, the stats speak for themselves. If the kids number is all over the game sheet, the coaches know he's contributing. If the parents are a "fit", then the issue is the kid. It would have to be pretty bad, to cut kid who putting the puck in the net.

And lets not forget, a lot of parents wear rose coloured glasses when it comes to evaluating their own kid.

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:42 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:08 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:46 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:24 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:27 am you can tell it is a parent cut. you probably got pissed off and mentioned your son played a higher level multiple times or complained about ice time or your son is actually trash.

no coach cuts a good player. he may be equal with other players, but because his dad is a peasant they told you to beat it.

Most insightful take on this whole sob story. Tons of kids get cut every season. And 99% of the time it’s about skill. Only two reasons a coach would say it’s about fit:
1. The kid has behavioral issues on or off the ice.
2. The parent is jerk.
The part about other kids being from rich families tells me it’s #2. No team is made up of 16 super wealthy families and one that’s blue collar. Guaranteed there are other not-so-wealthy kids on the team who will be back next year.

Some coaches are just clueless when it comes to evaluating talent. We have a family on our team (one of the top teams right now in our division) the kid started the season off being one of the bottom kids in terms of skills, but his dad decided he doesn’t want the kid to be the worst on the team so he has him in 2 extra skates a week. The family fits in very well and right now kid is top 5 skater on the team and he battles, has good size, I found out they were told kid might get cut if they find someone better while there are 6 kids at least who didn’t improve and are clearly worst than this kid, he been scoring every game during the playoffs, gritty goals. In this case I would say good riddance, your kid will develop better if you move on. Getting cut isn’t always bad, when you talk to your son tell him there are other opportunities and have him work harder, use that as motivation and not be a victim.

There is no "evaluating" in cases like this, the stats speak for themselves. If the kids number is all over the game sheet, the coaches know he's contributing. If the parents are a "fit", then the issue is the kid. It would have to be pretty bad, to cut kid who putting the puck in the net.

And lets not forget, a lot of parents wear rose coloured glasses when it comes to evaluating their own kid.

Nah. Not at all on point. You're looking at it as if the coach is unbiased and objective. Which many aren't. I've seen kids who consistently contribute get cut. And done so because the kid is a threat to the coaches kid or his buddies kid. So you tell Dad it's not a fit. Cause truth is if I keep your kid, Id have to cut my kid.

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:49 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:40 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:06 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:57 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:58 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:59 pm ^^^ you're such a tool and you're advice is awful

1) nothing in life is permanent and it has nothing to do with "needing" to get better.
2) parent can give the lay of the land, but in the end the kid decides and learns to own his decision. full stop.
3) playing for himself only validates the coaches decision and maybe even turn his friends and teammates against him. the worst advice anyone can give a kid in a team sport. play hard and play right til its over.
4) clearly was a good year, as the kid wants to stay. teach the kid to appreciate the positives and to take the hight road. he's not thanking him for cutting him, duh.
5) drive him to be better? it's single A.

Tons of kids get cut every year, it's part of minor hockey and has nothing to do with failure.

I'm going to be 3rd man in here but, what in heck are you talking about? You think kids in Single A, especially at his age don't care and should not be trying to get better? What kind of a fool tells a kid not to try and get better?

We are talking about this experience as a teaching moment. Most kids these days are bubble wrapped and pampered well into their teens and lack the ability cope with adversity or in this case being handed a shit sandwich. There's a good life lesson here, and it has nothing to do with "getting better" at hockey.

But okay, you want the kid to believe that if he gets better, he won't get cut next year. So how does the "tool" help this 11 year old single A player get better, so that he doesn't get cut from his next team? Power Skating Lessons, Shooting Lessons, Private Skills Sessions, Dryland Training, Road Work, Sports Psychologist, Nutritionist, Performance Enhancing Supplements, 10 weeks of summer hockey camp, spring hockey?

Every kid in rep hockey (all levels) should be striving to improve, whether they are the best player on a first place team or the 10th forward on a last place team. It has nothing to do with getting cut.

Is the tool you? Cuz you're the only who se me to be missing th border point. Which as I read it, states use this adversity of being cut to drive you more. To hate being cut and this to use this as motivation. Who on earth did you miss that point fella?

"Explaining How Politics work, to your 11 year old son", its the title of the post.


The kid needs to learn that there are variables in life that are beyond his control, and sometimes these variables will determine the outcome no matter how good he gets or how hard he tries or how bad he wants it. In the end, sometimes the wrong people are rewarded for the wrong reasons and such is life. Feeling disappointed is normal, but no reason to quit or think any less of himself. Take what he's learned and seek out new opportunities, and it would a good time to re-evaluate his own process as well as his expectations. If he's satisfied, then keep on truckin, if he's not then set new goals and get to work.

I get what you're saying, but it's not the same as being taken off PP, moved to the wing, or to the third line. Associating "getting cut" with the "need for self-improvement", is the wrong message.

I’m going to assume OP is in the west. Most of the teams in the west are pretty garbage so if your kid is on one of the west teams and he’s one of the bottom 3 kids he probably should be cut, sucks but that’s the reality of it. Just tell him the truth, he needs to improve his skills, if your kid is good enough he wouldn’t get cut.

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:44 pm Politics

1. Government steals obnoxious amounts of your money under a disguise called taxes.

2. Government wastes stolen money on anything not relevant.

3. Government works for every country but their own.

4. All parties are traitors who have sold out to globalists.

You're welcome

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:49 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:44 pm Politics

1. Government steals obnoxious amounts of your money under a disguise called taxes.

2. Government wastes stolen money on anything not relevant.

3. Government works for every country but their own.

4. All parties are traitors who have sold out to globalists.

You're welcome

I hear the word “globalists” a lot. Does it mean foreigners or immigrants?

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:03 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:05 am stop being a victim. take off your rose coloured glasses. No coach would pass on a kid who is good. those are the excuses of a talentless finger pointer. put your kid in bowling, there is a score system with no bias. yet a parent like you will complain that the guy who greases the alley screwed you over.

just tell your 11 year old he is a victim and no matter what he will get screwed cause dad is also talentless

It's A hockey, nobody is that good. This is the level where friends and family matter way more than actual ability. What the parent is learning is that they don't have friends on the team despite I'm sure being led to believe they were. That's the bottom line and the good news is you found out they were fake pieces of shit sooner than later. Always better to find out as soon as possible so you can move on. And at that age they will find new friends on a new team and forget the other kids even existed.