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Guest wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:31 pm
This is a strange case given last season it was Forest Hill who launched a case (deservedly so) against a MI player for using racial slurs at a Black player on FH. Social media ended up providing the smoking gun evidence the refs had not heard. Major suspension ensued (as it should have). That well known Black player is still with FH so, unless he was the offending party, I'd think he'd not be too happy with his teammate calling another Black player the N word (having been one the receiving end himself last year). Awkward turns of events, to say the least.
Either you have your facts wrong or you're thinking of a different incident. Here's the link to the original article that started this thread.
"Nicola-Lalonde, who is Humber Valley's only Black player, said the player then called him the N-word."
"It's on a weekly basis that I get these types of reach-outs," Aliu told CBC Sports"
Regardless - its obvious that awareness campaigns and whatever deterrents the league has put in place aren't working. There are some kids who still think its funny to utter racial slurs when refs / coaches / adults won't hear. They know that as long as they don't confess, there will be no proof of their actions and therefore no consequences.
I stand by my opinion that if the system isn't able to manage the racist behaviour of certain players, then the players should police themselves. Its obvious that crying to the refs on the ice and pleading to the court of public opinion through the media isn't deterring these gutless kids from crossing that line.
While not pleasant - it's only a word. You're just stupid enough to believe that a 7 game suspension for name calling is full justified as compared to breaking a kid's leg with a slash and only getting 1 game.
Teach your kid about how to be a good person. It's not a hockey issue. It's a societal issue and it begins with parenting skills. Take some courses.
Breaking a leg with a slash? Oh please...stop with the drama. Kids get slashed all the time, mostly in moments of intensity like a puck battle or preventing a goal.
"...only a word..." - I'd like you to email the Hockey Diversity Alliance and explain that to them. Or respond to the journalist who road the article.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that people these days are overly sensitive about issues like this. I don't like the new expectations of having to be politically correct all the time. But the fact remains that times have changed and we have all been put on notice about the new expectations, therefore having an "old school" mentality doesn't exempt people from todays consequences.
If the league has decided to suspend players for using certain words, then up to the players if they still want to use those words. Slashing major has been the same 5 minutes since the rule came into effect, so its up to players if they want sit for 5 minutes or less.
Personally, I don't think the league needs to get involved with racial chips. If kid wants to let it slide, then good for him and if a kid wants to retaliate, he can explain himself to his team, coach and parents. Either way letting the players settle it themselves will accomplish much more than an official saying, "...I believe he said it, but I didn't hear it so there's nothing I can do, sorry."
Lots of waffling there.
Bottom line - teach your kid to be better. If a WORD can make your kid lose his mind, there's a problem.
Teach your kid to mind his words and he will never have to worry about kids like mine. If your kid thinks he can say whatever WORDS he wants without considering how the other person might feel about it, there's a problem.
Dude - you really don't get it. Players use words to get a response.........it's called CHIRPING and it happens all game every game. My job as a player is to put you off your game and if I can do that with words, I will.
I would never condone the use of certain words but again............I'm Irish - you can call me all the negative terms for an Irishman and I'm going to laugh in your face about it. Words don't actually hurt anyone. What people are TAUGHT about the connotations of the words is where the problems begin.
Thankfully my parents were a lot smarter than you.
Guest wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:31 pm
This is a strange case given last season it was Forest Hill who launched a case (deservedly so) against a MI player for using racial slurs at a Black player on FH. Social media ended up providing the smoking gun evidence the refs had not heard. Major suspension ensued (as it should have). That well known Black player is still with FH so, unless he was the offending party, I'd think he'd not be too happy with his teammate calling another Black player the N word (having been one the receiving end himself last year). Awkward turns of events, to say the least.
Either you have your facts wrong or you're thinking of a different incident. Here's the link to the original article that started this thread.
"Nicola-Lalonde, who is Humber Valley's only Black player, said the player then called him the N-word."
"It's on a weekly basis that I get these types of reach-outs," Aliu told CBC Sports"
Regardless - its obvious that awareness campaigns and whatever deterrents the league has put in place aren't working. There are some kids who still think its funny to utter racial slurs when refs / coaches / adults won't hear. They know that as long as they don't confess, there will be no proof of their actions and therefore no consequences.
I stand by my opinion that if the system isn't able to manage the racist behaviour of certain players, then the players should police themselves. Its obvious that crying to the refs on the ice and pleading to the court of public opinion through the media isn't deterring these gutless kids from crossing that line.
While not pleasant - it's only a word. You're just stupid enough to believe that a 7 game suspension for name calling is full justified as compared to breaking a kid's leg with a slash and only getting 1 game.
Teach your kid about how to be a good person. It's not a hockey issue. It's a societal issue and it begins with parenting skills. Take some courses.
Breaking a leg with a slash? Oh please...stop with the drama. Kids get slashed all the time, mostly in moments of intensity like a puck battle or preventing a goal.
"...only a word..." - I'd like you to email the Hockey Diversity Alliance and explain that to them. Or respond to the journalist who road the article.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that people these days are overly sensitive about issues like this. I don't like the new expectations of having to be politically correct all the time. But the fact remains that times have changed and we have all been put on notice about the new expectations, therefore having an "old school" mentality doesn't exempt people from todays consequences.
If the league has decided to suspend players for using certain words, then up to the players if they still want to use those words. Slashing major has been the same 5 minutes since the rule came into effect, so its up to players if they want sit for 5 minutes or less.
Personally, I don't think the league needs to get involved with racial chips. If kid wants to let it slide, then good for him and if a kid wants to retaliate, he can explain himself to his team, coach and parents. Either way letting the players settle it themselves will accomplish much more than an official saying, "...I believe he said it, but I didn't hear it so there's nothing I can do, sorry."
Lots of waffling there.
Bottom line - teach your kid to be better. If a WORD can make your kid lose his mind, there's a problem.
Teach your kid to mind his words and he will never have to worry about kids like mine. If your kid thinks he can say whatever WORDS he wants without considering how the other person might feel about it, there's a problem.
Dude - you really don't get it. Players use words to get a response.........it's called CHIRPING and it happens all game every game. My job as a player is to put you off your game and if I can do that with words, I will.
I would never condone the use of certain words but again............I'm Irish - you can call me all the negative terms for an Irishman and I'm going to laugh in your face about it. Words don't actually hurt anyone. What people are TAUGHT about the connotations of the words is where the problems begin.
Thankfully my parents were a lot smarter than you.
Considering almost 70% of white nationalists claim ancestry to the British Isles, I hardly think you are the right person to tell people from marginalized communities that they should be laughing when an Irishman hurls racial epithets at them. LMAO
Laughing in the face of racial slurs is typical of somebody who has no problem using them...which is why responding to racial chirps with more name calling is pointless...and why some players choose to whack the guy on the glove with a stick and hope the ref who didn't hear the chirp...doesn't see the reply. If he does, then they'll sit for 2 or 5. Do that in the parking lot and the kid won't be wearing gloves or wrist guards, then somebody calls the cops...which is why an in-game response it best for both sides.
Teaching you kid that potential impact certain language could have on others is the reason we do not cross a certain line when it comes to "chirping / trash talk" is a a far better lesson than telling him to laugh about it. He should also learn that, thanks to the pasty complexion he inherited from you, if he chooses to use language that associates him to racist hate groups, then some people might decide to treat him like one.
Guest wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:31 pm
This is a strange case given last season it was Forest Hill who launched a case (deservedly so) against a MI player for using racial slurs at a Black player on FH. Social media ended up providing the smoking gun evidence the refs had not heard. Major suspension ensued (as it should have). That well known Black player is still with FH so, unless he was the offending party, I'd think he'd not be too happy with his teammate calling another Black player the N word (having been one the receiving end himself last year). Awkward turns of events, to say the least.
Either you have your facts wrong or you're thinking of a different incident. Here's the link to the original article that started this thread.
"Nicola-Lalonde, who is Humber Valley's only Black player, said the player then called him the N-word."
"It's on a weekly basis that I get these types of reach-outs," Aliu told CBC Sports"
Regardless - its obvious that awareness campaigns and whatever deterrents the league has put in place aren't working. There are some kids who still think its funny to utter racial slurs when refs / coaches / adults won't hear. They know that as long as they don't confess, there will be no proof of their actions and therefore no consequences.
I stand by my opinion that if the system isn't able to manage the racist behaviour of certain players, then the players should police themselves. Its obvious that crying to the refs on the ice and pleading to the court of public opinion through the media isn't deterring these gutless kids from crossing that line.
While not pleasant - it's only a word. You're just stupid enough to believe that a 7 game suspension for name calling is full justified as compared to breaking a kid's leg with a slash and only getting 1 game.
Teach your kid about how to be a good person. It's not a hockey issue. It's a societal issue and it begins with parenting skills. Take some courses.
Breaking a leg with a slash? Oh please...stop with the drama. Kids get slashed all the time, mostly in moments of intensity like a puck battle or preventing a goal.
"...only a word..." - I'd like you to email the Hockey Diversity Alliance and explain that to them. Or respond to the journalist who road the article.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that people these days are overly sensitive about issues like this. I don't like the new expectations of having to be politically correct all the time. But the fact remains that times have changed and we have all been put on notice about the new expectations, therefore having an "old school" mentality doesn't exempt people from todays consequences.
If the league has decided to suspend players for using certain words, then up to the players if they still want to use those words. Slashing major has been the same 5 minutes since the rule came into effect, so its up to players if they want sit for 5 minutes or less.
Personally, I don't think the league needs to get involved with racial chips. If kid wants to let it slide, then good for him and if a kid wants to retaliate, he can explain himself to his team, coach and parents. Either way letting the players settle it themselves will accomplish much more than an official saying, "...I believe he said it, but I didn't hear it so there's nothing I can do, sorry."
Lots of waffling there.
Bottom line - teach your kid to be better. If a WORD can make your kid lose his mind, there's a problem.
Teach your kid to mind his words and he will never have to worry about kids like mine. If your kid thinks he can say whatever WORDS he wants without considering how the other person might feel about it, there's a problem.
Dude - you really don't get it. Players use words to get a response.........it's called CHIRPING and it happens all game every game. My job as a player is to put you off your game and if I can do that with words, I will.
I would never condone the use of certain words but again............I'm Irish - you can call me all the negative terms for an Irishman and I'm going to laugh in your face about it. Words don't actually hurt anyone. What people are TAUGHT about the connotations of the words is where the problems begin.
Thankfully my parents were a lot smarter than you.
Considering almost 70% of white nationalists claim ancestry to the British Isles, I hardly think you are the right person to tell people from marginalized communities that they should be laughing when an Irishman hurls racial epithets at them. LMAO
Laughing in the face of racial slurs is typical of somebody who has no problem using them...which is why responding to racial chirps with more name calling is pointless...and why some players choose to whack the guy on the glove with a stick and hope the ref who didn't hear the chirp...doesn't see the reply. If he does, then they'll sit for 2 or 5. Do that in the parking lot and the kid won't be wearing gloves or wrist guards, then somebody calls the cops...which is why an in-game response it best for both sides.
Teaching you kid that potential impact certain language could have on others is the reason we do not cross a certain line when it comes to "chirping / trash talk" is a a far better lesson than telling him to laugh about it. He should also learn that, thanks to the pasty complexion he inherited from you, if he chooses to use language that associates him to racist hate groups, then some people might decide to treat him like one.
Obviously you've been punched out more than once and the PTSD has you all screwed in the head.
Learn to read and comprehend, then learn to be an adult and to parent your child.
I'm sure your kid is embarrassed by your stupidity.
Guest wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:31 pm
This is a strange case given last season it was Forest Hill who launched a case (deservedly so) against a MI player for using racial slurs at a Black player on FH. Social media ended up providing the smoking gun evidence the refs had not heard. Major suspension ensued (as it should have). That well known Black player is still with FH so, unless he was the offending party, I'd think he'd not be too happy with his teammate calling another Black player the N word (having been one the receiving end himself last year). Awkward turns of events, to say the least.
Either you have your facts wrong or you're thinking of a different incident. Here's the link to the original article that started this thread.
"Nicola-Lalonde, who is Humber Valley's only Black player, said the player then called him the N-word."
"It's on a weekly basis that I get these types of reach-outs," Aliu told CBC Sports"
Regardless - its obvious that awareness campaigns and whatever deterrents the league has put in place aren't working. There are some kids who still think its funny to utter racial slurs when refs / coaches / adults won't hear. They know that as long as they don't confess, there will be no proof of their actions and therefore no consequences.
I stand by my opinion that if the system isn't able to manage the racist behaviour of certain players, then the players should police themselves. Its obvious that crying to the refs on the ice and pleading to the court of public opinion through the media isn't deterring these gutless kids from crossing that line.
While not pleasant - it's only a word. You're just stupid enough to believe that a 7 game suspension for name calling is full justified as compared to breaking a kid's leg with a slash and only getting 1 game.
Teach your kid about how to be a good person. It's not a hockey issue. It's a societal issue and it begins with parenting skills. Take some courses.
Breaking a leg with a slash? Oh please...stop with the drama. Kids get slashed all the time, mostly in moments of intensity like a puck battle or preventing a goal.
"...only a word..." - I'd like you to email the Hockey Diversity Alliance and explain that to them. Or respond to the journalist who road the article.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that people these days are overly sensitive about issues like this. I don't like the new expectations of having to be politically correct all the time. But the fact remains that times have changed and we have all been put on notice about the new expectations, therefore having an "old school" mentality doesn't exempt people from todays consequences.
If the league has decided to suspend players for using certain words, then up to the players if they still want to use those words. Slashing major has been the same 5 minutes since the rule came into effect, so its up to players if they want sit for 5 minutes or less.
Personally, I don't think the league needs to get involved with racial chips. If kid wants to let it slide, then good for him and if a kid wants to retaliate, he can explain himself to his team, coach and parents. Either way letting the players settle it themselves will accomplish much more than an official saying, "...I believe he said it, but I didn't hear it so there's nothing I can do, sorry."
Lots of waffling there.
Bottom line - teach your kid to be better. If a WORD can make your kid lose his mind, there's a problem.
Teach your kid to mind his words and he will never have to worry about kids like mine. If your kid thinks he can say whatever WORDS he wants without considering how the other person might feel about it, there's a problem.
Dude - you really don't get it. Players use words to get a response.........it's called CHIRPING and it happens all game every game. My job as a player is to put you off your game and if I can do that with words, I will.
I would never condone the use of certain words but again............I'm Irish - you can call me all the negative terms for an Irishman and I'm going to laugh in your face about it. Words don't actually hurt anyone. What people are TAUGHT about the connotations of the words is where the problems begin.
Thankfully my parents were a lot smarter than you.
Considering almost 70% of white nationalists claim ancestry to the British Isles, I hardly think you are the right person to tell people from marginalized communities that they should be laughing when an Irishman hurls racial epithets at them. LMAO
Laughing in the face of racial slurs is typical of somebody who has no problem using them...which is why responding to racial chirps with more name calling is pointless...and why some players choose to whack the guy on the glove with a stick and hope the ref who didn't hear the chirp...doesn't see the reply. If he does, then they'll sit for 2 or 5. Do that in the parking lot and the kid won't be wearing gloves or wrist guards, then somebody calls the cops...which is why an in-game response it best for both sides.
Teaching you kid that potential impact certain language could have on others is the reason we do not cross a certain line when it comes to "chirping / trash talk" is a a far better lesson than telling him to laugh about it. He should also learn that, thanks to the pasty complexion he inherited from you, if he chooses to use language that associates him to racist hate groups, then some people might decide to treat him like one.
Obviously you've been punched out more than once and the PTSD has you all screwed in the head.
Learn to read and comprehend, then learn to be an adult and to parent your child.
I'm sure your kid is embarrassed by your stupidity.
You know you’re kid has a big mouth and is thinks it’s okay to throw the N-word around the rink. After all, you’re the one teaching him that words don’t actually hurt anyone and to laugh about it. That’s why the idea of another kid taking exception and settling it within the game terrifies you.
Teach your kid to mind his manners and he will never have to worry about some other kid chopping him on the wrist.
Guest wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:31 pm
This is a strange case given last season it was Forest Hill who launched a case (deservedly so) against a MI player for using racial slurs at a Black player on FH. Social media ended up providing the smoking gun evidence the refs had not heard. Major suspension ensued (as it should have). That well known Black player is still with FH so, unless he was the offending party, I'd think he'd not be too happy with his teammate calling another Black player the N word (having been one the receiving end himself last year). Awkward turns of events, to say the least.
Either you have your facts wrong or you're thinking of a different incident. Here's the link to the original article that started this thread.
"Nicola-Lalonde, who is Humber Valley's only Black player, said the player then called him the N-word."
"It's on a weekly basis that I get these types of reach-outs," Aliu told CBC Sports"
Regardless - its obvious that awareness campaigns and whatever deterrents the league has put in place aren't working. There are some kids who still think its funny to utter racial slurs when refs / coaches / adults won't hear. They know that as long as they don't confess, there will be no proof of their actions and therefore no consequences.
I stand by my opinion that if the system isn't able to manage the racist behaviour of certain players, then the players should police themselves. Its obvious that crying to the refs on the ice and pleading to the court of public opinion through the media isn't deterring these gutless kids from crossing that line.
While not pleasant - it's only a word. You're just stupid enough to believe that a 7 game suspension for name calling is full justified as compared to breaking a kid's leg with a slash and only getting 1 game.
Teach your kid about how to be a good person. It's not a hockey issue. It's a societal issue and it begins with parenting skills. Take some courses.
Breaking a leg with a slash? Oh please...stop with the drama. Kids get slashed all the time, mostly in moments of intensity like a puck battle or preventing a goal.
"...only a word..." - I'd like you to email the Hockey Diversity Alliance and explain that to them. Or respond to the journalist who road the article.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that people these days are overly sensitive about issues like this. I don't like the new expectations of having to be politically correct all the time. But the fact remains that times have changed and we have all been put on notice about the new expectations, therefore having an "old school" mentality doesn't exempt people from todays consequences.
If the league has decided to suspend players for using certain words, then up to the players if they still want to use those words. Slashing major has been the same 5 minutes since the rule came into effect, so its up to players if they want sit for 5 minutes or less.
Personally, I don't think the league needs to get involved with racial chips. If kid wants to let it slide, then good for him and if a kid wants to retaliate, he can explain himself to his team, coach and parents. Either way letting the players settle it themselves will accomplish much more than an official saying, "...I believe he said it, but I didn't hear it so there's nothing I can do, sorry."
Lots of waffling there.
Bottom line - teach your kid to be better. If a WORD can make your kid lose his mind, there's a problem.
Teach your kid to mind his words and he will never have to worry about kids like mine. If your kid thinks he can say whatever WORDS he wants without considering how the other person might feel about it, there's a problem.
Dude - you really don't get it. Players use words to get a response.........it's called CHIRPING and it happens all game every game. My job as a player is to put you off your game and if I can do that with words, I will.
I would never condone the use of certain words but again............I'm Irish - you can call me all the negative terms for an Irishman and I'm going to laugh in your face about it. Words don't actually hurt anyone. What people are TAUGHT about the connotations of the words is where the problems begin.
Thankfully my parents were a lot smarter than you.
Considering almost 70% of white nationalists claim ancestry to the British Isles, I hardly think you are the right person to tell people from marginalized communities that they should be laughing when an Irishman hurls racial epithets at them. LMAO
Laughing in the face of racial slurs is typical of somebody who has no problem using them...which is why responding to racial chirps with more name calling is pointless...and why some players choose to whack the guy on the glove with a stick and hope the ref who didn't hear the chirp...doesn't see the reply. If he does, then they'll sit for 2 or 5. Do that in the parking lot and the kid won't be wearing gloves or wrist guards, then somebody calls the cops...which is why an in-game response it best for both sides.
Teaching you kid that potential impact certain language could have on others is the reason we do not cross a certain line when it comes to "chirping / trash talk" is a a far better lesson than telling him to laugh about it. He should also learn that, thanks to the pasty complexion he inherited from you, if he chooses to use language that associates him to racist hate groups, then some people might decide to treat him like one.
Obviously you've been punched out more than once and the PTSD has you all screwed in the head.
Learn to read and comprehend, then learn to be an adult and to parent your child.
I'm sure your kid is embarrassed by your stupidity.
You know you’re kid has a big mouth and is thinks it’s okay to throw the N-word around the rink. After all, you’re the one teaching him that words don’t actually hurt anyone and to laugh about it. That’s why the idea of another kid taking exception and settling it within the game terrifies you.
Teach your kid to mind his manners and he will never have to worry about some other kid chopping him on the wrist.
Hey - DUM DUM - look up and tell me what "I would never condone the use of certain words" means.
Every time you post you make yourself look more and more stupid.
Please - keep it up. Great entertainment for free at your expense.
Guest wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:31 pm
This is a strange case given last season it was Forest Hill who launched a case (deservedly so) against a MI player for using racial slurs at a Black player on FH. Social media ended up providing the smoking gun evidence the refs had not heard. Major suspension ensued (as it should have). That well known Black player is still with FH so, unless he was the offending party, I'd think he'd not be too happy with his teammate calling another Black player the N word (having been one the receiving end himself last year). Awkward turns of events, to say the least.
Either you have your facts wrong or you're thinking of a different incident. Here's the link to the original article that started this thread.
"Nicola-Lalonde, who is Humber Valley's only Black player, said the player then called him the N-word."
"It's on a weekly basis that I get these types of reach-outs," Aliu told CBC Sports"
Regardless - its obvious that awareness campaigns and whatever deterrents the league has put in place aren't working. There are some kids who still think its funny to utter racial slurs when refs / coaches / adults won't hear. They know that as long as they don't confess, there will be no proof of their actions and therefore no consequences.
I stand by my opinion that if the system isn't able to manage the racist behaviour of certain players, then the players should police themselves. Its obvious that crying to the refs on the ice and pleading to the court of public opinion through the media isn't deterring these gutless kids from crossing that line.
While not pleasant - it's only a word. You're just stupid enough to believe that a 7 game suspension for name calling is full justified as compared to breaking a kid's leg with a slash and only getting 1 game.
Teach your kid about how to be a good person. It's not a hockey issue. It's a societal issue and it begins with parenting skills. Take some courses.
Breaking a leg with a slash? Oh please...stop with the drama. Kids get slashed all the time, mostly in moments of intensity like a puck battle or preventing a goal.
"...only a word..." - I'd like you to email the Hockey Diversity Alliance and explain that to them. Or respond to the journalist who road the article.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that people these days are overly sensitive about issues like this. I don't like the new expectations of having to be politically correct all the time. But the fact remains that times have changed and we have all been put on notice about the new expectations, therefore having an "old school" mentality doesn't exempt people from todays consequences.
If the league has decided to suspend players for using certain words, then up to the players if they still want to use those words. Slashing major has been the same 5 minutes since the rule came into effect, so its up to players if they want sit for 5 minutes or less.
Personally, I don't think the league needs to get involved with racial chips. If kid wants to let it slide, then good for him and if a kid wants to retaliate, he can explain himself to his team, coach and parents. Either way letting the players settle it themselves will accomplish much more than an official saying, "...I believe he said it, but I didn't hear it so there's nothing I can do, sorry."
Lots of waffling there.
Bottom line - teach your kid to be better. If a WORD can make your kid lose his mind, there's a problem.
Teach your kid to mind his words and he will never have to worry about kids like mine. If your kid thinks he can say whatever WORDS he wants without considering how the other person might feel about it, there's a problem.
Dude - you really don't get it. Players use words to get a response.........it's called CHIRPING and it happens all game every game. My job as a player is to put you off your game and if I can do that with words, I will.
I would never condone the use of certain words but again............I'm Irish - you can call me all the negative terms for an Irishman and I'm going to laugh in your face about it. Words don't actually hurt anyone. What people are TAUGHT about the connotations of the words is where the problems begin.
Thankfully my parents were a lot smarter than you.
Considering almost 70% of white nationalists claim ancestry to the British Isles, I hardly think you are the right person to tell people from marginalized communities that they should be laughing when an Irishman hurls racial epithets at them. LMAO
Laughing in the face of racial slurs is typical of somebody who has no problem using them...which is why responding to racial chirps with more name calling is pointless...and why some players choose to whack the guy on the glove with a stick and hope the ref who didn't hear the chirp...doesn't see the reply. If he does, then they'll sit for 2 or 5. Do that in the parking lot and the kid won't be wearing gloves or wrist guards, then somebody calls the cops...which is why an in-game response it best for both sides.
Teaching you kid that potential impact certain language could have on others is the reason we do not cross a certain line when it comes to "chirping / trash talk" is a a far better lesson than telling him to laugh about it. He should also learn that, thanks to the pasty complexion he inherited from you, if he chooses to use language that associates him to racist hate groups, then some people might decide to treat him like one.
Obviously you've been punched out more than once and the PTSD has you all screwed in the head.
Learn to read and comprehend, then learn to be an adult and to parent your child.
I'm sure your kid is embarrassed by your stupidity.
You know you’re kid has a big mouth and is thinks it’s okay to throw the N-word around the rink. After all, you’re the one teaching him that words don’t actually hurt anyone and to laugh about it. That’s why the idea of another kid taking exception and settling it within the game terrifies you.
Teach your kid to mind his manners and he will never have to worry about some other kid chopping him on the wrist.
Hey - DUM DUM - look up and tell me what "I would never condone the use of certain words" means.
Every time you post you make yourself look more and more stupid.
Please - keep it up. Great entertainment for free at your expense.
Seems you're implying that all the kids uttering racial chirps are doing it because their parents "condone the use of certain words". My you are naive.
Like I said - teach your kid that if he decides to use words that you don't condone and the other player takes matters into his own hands, that retaliation penalties are part of hockey.
Guest wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:31 pm
This is a strange case given last season it was Forest Hill who launched a case (deservedly so) against a MI player for using racial slurs at a Black player on FH. Social media ended up providing the smoking gun evidence the refs had not heard. Major suspension ensued (as it should have). That well known Black player is still with FH so, unless he was the offending party, I'd think he'd not be too happy with his teammate calling another Black player the N word (having been one the receiving end himself last year). Awkward turns of events, to say the least.
Either you have your facts wrong or you're thinking of a different incident. Here's the link to the original article that started this thread.
"Nicola-Lalonde, who is Humber Valley's only Black player, said the player then called him the N-word."
"It's on a weekly basis that I get these types of reach-outs," Aliu told CBC Sports"
Regardless - its obvious that awareness campaigns and whatever deterrents the league has put in place aren't working. There are some kids who still think its funny to utter racial slurs when refs / coaches / adults won't hear. They know that as long as they don't confess, there will be no proof of their actions and therefore no consequences.
I stand by my opinion that if the system isn't able to manage the racist behaviour of certain players, then the players should police themselves. Its obvious that crying to the refs on the ice and pleading to the court of public opinion through the media isn't deterring these gutless kids from crossing that line.
While not pleasant - it's only a word. You're just stupid enough to believe that a 7 game suspension for name calling is full justified as compared to breaking a kid's leg with a slash and only getting 1 game.
Teach your kid about how to be a good person. It's not a hockey issue. It's a societal issue and it begins with parenting skills. Take some courses.
Breaking a leg with a slash? Oh please...stop with the drama. Kids get slashed all the time, mostly in moments of intensity like a puck battle or preventing a goal.
"...only a word..." - I'd like you to email the Hockey Diversity Alliance and explain that to them. Or respond to the journalist who road the article.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that people these days are overly sensitive about issues like this. I don't like the new expectations of having to be politically correct all the time. But the fact remains that times have changed and we have all been put on notice about the new expectations, therefore having an "old school" mentality doesn't exempt people from todays consequences.
If the league has decided to suspend players for using certain words, then up to the players if they still want to use those words. Slashing major has been the same 5 minutes since the rule came into effect, so its up to players if they want sit for 5 minutes or less.
Personally, I don't think the league needs to get involved with racial chips. If kid wants to let it slide, then good for him and if a kid wants to retaliate, he can explain himself to his team, coach and parents. Either way letting the players settle it themselves will accomplish much more than an official saying, "...I believe he said it, but I didn't hear it so there's nothing I can do, sorry."
Lots of waffling there.
Bottom line - teach your kid to be better. If a WORD can make your kid lose his mind, there's a problem.
Teach your kid to mind his words and he will never have to worry about kids like mine. If your kid thinks he can say whatever WORDS he wants without considering how the other person might feel about it, there's a problem.
Dude - you really don't get it. Players use words to get a response.........it's called CHIRPING and it happens all game every game. My job as a player is to put you off your game and if I can do that with words, I will.
I would never condone the use of certain words but again............I'm Irish - you can call me all the negative terms for an Irishman and I'm going to laugh in your face about it. Words don't actually hurt anyone. What people are TAUGHT about the connotations of the words is where the problems begin.
Thankfully my parents were a lot smarter than you.
Considering almost 70% of white nationalists claim ancestry to the British Isles, I hardly think you are the right person to tell people from marginalized communities that they should be laughing when an Irishman hurls racial epithets at them. LMAO
Laughing in the face of racial slurs is typical of somebody who has no problem using them...which is why responding to racial chirps with more name calling is pointless...and why some players choose to whack the guy on the glove with a stick and hope the ref who didn't hear the chirp...doesn't see the reply. If he does, then they'll sit for 2 or 5. Do that in the parking lot and the kid won't be wearing gloves or wrist guards, then somebody calls the cops...which is why an in-game response it best for both sides.
Teaching you kid that potential impact certain language could have on others is the reason we do not cross a certain line when it comes to "chirping / trash talk" is a a far better lesson than telling him to laugh about it. He should also learn that, thanks to the pasty complexion he inherited from you, if he chooses to use language that associates him to racist hate groups, then some people might decide to treat him like one.
Obviously you've been punched out more than once and the PTSD has you all screwed in the head.
Learn to read and comprehend, then learn to be an adult and to parent your child.
I'm sure your kid is embarrassed by your stupidity.
You know you’re kid has a big mouth and is thinks it’s okay to throw the N-word around the rink. After all, you’re the one teaching him that words don’t actually hurt anyone and to laugh about it. That’s why the idea of another kid taking exception and settling it within the game terrifies you.
Teach your kid to mind his manners and he will never have to worry about some other kid chopping him on the wrist.
Hey - DUM DUM - look up and tell me what "I would never condone the use of certain words" means.
Every time you post you make yourself look more and more stupid.
Please - keep it up. Great entertainment for free at your expense.
Seems you're implying that all the kids uttering racial chirps are doing it because their parents "condone the use of certain words". My you are naive.
Like I said - teach your kid that if he decides to use words that you don't condone and the other player takes matters into his own hands, that retaliation penalties are part of hockey.
It's not a retaliation when you are swinging your stick because someone said something you didn't like. It's cowardly and infantile.
Not surprised to hear you got your shit kicked on a regular basis.
Guest wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:31 pm
This is a strange case given last season it was Forest Hill who launched a case (deservedly so) against a MI player for using racial slurs at a Black player on FH. Social media ended up providing the smoking gun evidence the refs had not heard. Major suspension ensued (as it should have). That well known Black player is still with FH so, unless he was the offending party, I'd think he'd not be too happy with his teammate calling another Black player the N word (having been one the receiving end himself last year). Awkward turns of events, to say the least.
Either you have your facts wrong or you're thinking of a different incident. Here's the link to the original article that started this thread.
"Nicola-Lalonde, who is Humber Valley's only Black player, said the player then called him the N-word."
"It's on a weekly basis that I get these types of reach-outs," Aliu told CBC Sports"
Regardless - its obvious that awareness campaigns and whatever deterrents the league has put in place aren't working. There are some kids who still think its funny to utter racial slurs when refs / coaches / adults won't hear. They know that as long as they don't confess, there will be no proof of their actions and therefore no consequences.
I stand by my opinion that if the system isn't able to manage the racist behaviour of certain players, then the players should police themselves. Its obvious that crying to the refs on the ice and pleading to the court of public opinion through the media isn't deterring these gutless kids from crossing that line.
While not pleasant - it's only a word. You're just stupid enough to believe that a 7 game suspension for name calling is full justified as compared to breaking a kid's leg with a slash and only getting 1 game.
Teach your kid about how to be a good person. It's not a hockey issue. It's a societal issue and it begins with parenting skills. Take some courses.
Breaking a leg with a slash? Oh please...stop with the drama. Kids get slashed all the time, mostly in moments of intensity like a puck battle or preventing a goal.
"...only a word..." - I'd like you to email the Hockey Diversity Alliance and explain that to them. Or respond to the journalist who road the article.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that people these days are overly sensitive about issues like this. I don't like the new expectations of having to be politically correct all the time. But the fact remains that times have changed and we have all been put on notice about the new expectations, therefore having an "old school" mentality doesn't exempt people from todays consequences.
If the league has decided to suspend players for using certain words, then up to the players if they still want to use those words. Slashing major has been the same 5 minutes since the rule came into effect, so its up to players if they want sit for 5 minutes or less.
Personally, I don't think the league needs to get involved with racial chips. If kid wants to let it slide, then good for him and if a kid wants to retaliate, he can explain himself to his team, coach and parents. Either way letting the players settle it themselves will accomplish much more than an official saying, "...I believe he said it, but I didn't hear it so there's nothing I can do, sorry."
Lots of waffling there.
Bottom line - teach your kid to be better. If a WORD can make your kid lose his mind, there's a problem.
Teach your kid to mind his words and he will never have to worry about kids like mine. If your kid thinks he can say whatever WORDS he wants without considering how the other person might feel about it, there's a problem.
Dude - you really don't get it. Players use words to get a response.........it's called CHIRPING and it happens all game every game. My job as a player is to put you off your game and if I can do that with words, I will.
I would never condone the use of certain words but again............I'm Irish - you can call me all the negative terms for an Irishman and I'm going to laugh in your face about it. Words don't actually hurt anyone. What people are TAUGHT about the connotations of the words is where the problems begin.
Thankfully my parents were a lot smarter than you.
Considering almost 70% of white nationalists claim ancestry to the British Isles, I hardly think you are the right person to tell people from marginalized communities that they should be laughing when an Irishman hurls racial epithets at them. LMAO
Laughing in the face of racial slurs is typical of somebody who has no problem using them...which is why responding to racial chirps with more name calling is pointless...and why some players choose to whack the guy on the glove with a stick and hope the ref who didn't hear the chirp...doesn't see the reply. If he does, then they'll sit for 2 or 5. Do that in the parking lot and the kid won't be wearing gloves or wrist guards, then somebody calls the cops...which is why an in-game response it best for both sides.
Teaching you kid that potential impact certain language could have on others is the reason we do not cross a certain line when it comes to "chirping / trash talk" is a a far better lesson than telling him to laugh about it. He should also learn that, thanks to the pasty complexion he inherited from you, if he chooses to use language that associates him to racist hate groups, then some people might decide to treat him like one.
Obviously you've been punched out more than once and the PTSD has you all screwed in the head.
Learn to read and comprehend, then learn to be an adult and to parent your child.
I'm sure your kid is embarrassed by your stupidity.
You know you’re kid has a big mouth and is thinks it’s okay to throw the N-word around the rink. After all, you’re the one teaching him that words don’t actually hurt anyone and to laugh about it. That’s why the idea of another kid taking exception and settling it within the game terrifies you.
Teach your kid to mind his manners and he will never have to worry about some other kid chopping him on the wrist.
Hey - DUM DUM - look up and tell me what "I would never condone the use of certain words" means.
Every time you post you make yourself look more and more stupid.
Please - keep it up. Great entertainment for free at your expense.
Seems you're implying that all the kids uttering racial chirps are doing it because their parents "condone the use of certain words". My you are naive.
Like I said - teach your kid that if he decides to use words that you don't condone and the other player takes matters into his own hands, that retaliation penalties are part of hockey.
It's not a retaliation when you are swinging your stick because someone said something you didn't like. It's cowardly and infantile.
Not surprised to hear you got your shit kicked on a regular basis.
Once again minimizing and dismissing racial epithets. The notion that you aren’t able to distinguish the difference from in-game trash talk and crossing the line with race based insults tells us all that you see no harm in using them. Sure…you claim that you don’t “condone” them and if you were standing next to a black guy being called a N*****r …you’d be laughing and telling him to laugh too.
BTW- hockey players don’t “swing” sticks at other players…not the way you’re fantasizing. You’ve obviously never played the game and are terrified about your delicate superstar getting bruised because of something he said. Fckn hilarious!
Once again minimizing and dismissing racial epithets. The notion that you aren’t able to distinguish the difference from in-game trash talk and crossing the line with race based insults tells us all that you see no harm in using them. Sure…you claim that you don’t “condone” them and if you were standing next to a black guy being called a N*****r …you’d be laughing and telling him to laugh too.
BTW- hockey players don’t “swing” sticks at other players…not the way you’re fantasizing. You’ve obviously never played the game and are terrified about your delicate superstar getting bruised because of something he said. Fckn hilarious!
Not minimizing ANYTHING you fcking retard. Simply pointing out that assault with a deadly weapon is never called for based on a name calling.
You really don't have any concept of how people work, do you. If I don't condone it - that means it is unacceptable to me and I would handle it appropriately - in an ADULT, NON-VIOLENT way. But that's because I can handle my emotions. You need others to control your emotions for you because your one step above the dog crap I scrapped off my shoe this morning.
As for never played........pretty certain I've got more games in pro hockey than you ever had.
But I got there because I had control of my emotions...... not like you baby pooh.
GTHL is suspending players minimum 7 games for using a certain word that rhymes with hussy.. apparently the office said they consider it a derogatory term.. anybody else hear about this?? 2 older player already suspended this year. Looks like they have gone completely off the deep end, suspending players for foul language now… who’s going to be left to play if players are suspended for swearing?