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Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:58 am I really don’t understand the saltyness towards omha or ego with gthl. You play where you live unless you lie, so there’s a good character trait about g parent. There are better teams at the top in the G in the younger years because there’s no borders, making a very uncompetitive season for most game. Teenage years, omha teams share the top few spot in Ontario and or are better than Gthl.
Comes down to development and there’s just as many drafts from omha as the G. The biggest difference is cost to develop and you’re much more likely to pay up and have a more dramatic journey for your children and parents in the G. According to this website anyway.

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:40 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:58 am I really don’t understand the saltyness towards omha or ego with gthl. You play where you live unless you lie, so there’s a good character trait about g parent. There are better teams at the top in the G in the younger years because there’s no borders, making a very uncompetitive season for most game. Teenage years, omha teams share the top few spot in Ontario and or are better than Gthl.
Comes down to development and there’s just as many drafts from omha as the G. The biggest difference is cost to develop and you’re much more likely to pay up and have a more dramatic journey for your children and parents in the G. According to this website anyway.

OMHA
Pros: less expensive, close for practices, good level of hockey usually.
Cons: you MUST play where you live and are stuck with whoever they put in as coach and which kids make up the core group, not as high level hockey as the G, travel to places like Barrie and Kingston for games.

GTHL
Pros: 12 AAA teams and ~30 AA and A teams to choose from depending on coach and core group which is best for you and your family, higher level of hockey, games all within a close proximity.
Cons: more expensive, bribery happens, free rides happen.

I've had boys play in both the GTHL and OMHA, and by far the most drama/politics are in the OMHA because people are stuck there and cliques form. In the G, you can just leave if you don't like it, find another team. In the OMHA, families are often run out of the sport because they get forced into a corner.

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:39 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:40 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:58 am I really don’t understand the saltyness towards omha or ego with gthl. You play where you live unless you lie, so there’s a good character trait about g parent. There are better teams at the top in the G in the younger years because there’s no borders, making a very uncompetitive season for most game. Teenage years, omha teams share the top few spot in Ontario and or are better than Gthl.
Comes down to development and there’s just as many drafts from omha as the G. The biggest difference is cost to develop and you’re much more likely to pay up and have a more dramatic journey for your children and parents in the G. According to this website anyway.

OMHA
Pros: less expensive, close for practices, good level of hockey usually.
Cons: you MUST play where you live and are stuck with whoever they put in as coach and which kids make up the core group, not as high level hockey as the G, travel to places like Barrie and Kingston for games.

GTHL
Pros: 12 AAA teams and ~30 AA and A teams to choose from depending on coach and core group which is best for you and your family, higher level of hockey, games all within a close proximity.
Cons: more expensive, bribery happens, free rides happen.

I've had boys play in both the GTHL and OMHA, and by far the most drama/politics are in the OMHA because people are stuck there and cliques form. In the G, you can just leave if you don't like it, find another team. In the OMHA, families are often run out of the sport because they get forced into a corner.

Everything Changes at U-14 (minor bantam) in the O, it becomes like the G because anyone in the O can play on any team in the O. hence why by U-14 the OMHA teams become much stronger and more competitive with the top 3 teams in the G. By U-16, there are always several OMHA teams in the top 10 ranked AAA teams in Ontario. The question remains, why does Vaughan not have a AAA team in the OMHA, and why is the cost of playing AAA hockey in the G double of what it costs to play AAA hockey in the OMHA?

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:22 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:39 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:40 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:58 am I really don’t understand the saltyness towards omha or ego with gthl. You play where you live unless you lie, so there’s a good character trait about g parent. There are better teams at the top in the G in the younger years because there’s no borders, making a very uncompetitive season for most game. Teenage years, omha teams share the top few spot in Ontario and or are better than Gthl.
Comes down to development and there’s just as many drafts from omha as the G. The biggest difference is cost to develop and you’re much more likely to pay up and have a more dramatic journey for your children and parents in the G. According to this website anyway.

OMHA
Pros: less expensive, close for practices, good level of hockey usually.
Cons: you MUST play where you live and are stuck with whoever they put in as coach and which kids make up the core group, not as high level hockey as the G, travel to places like Barrie and Kingston for games.

GTHL
Pros: 12 AAA teams and ~30 AA and A teams to choose from depending on coach and core group which is best for you and your family, higher level of hockey, games all within a close proximity.
Cons: more expensive, bribery happens, free rides happen.

I've had boys play in both the GTHL and OMHA, and by far the most drama/politics are in the OMHA because people are stuck there and cliques form. In the G, you can just leave if you don't like it, find another team. In the OMHA, families are often run out of the sport because they get forced into a corner.

Everything Changes at U-14 (minor bantam) in the O, it becomes like the G because anyone in the O can play on any team in the O. hence why by U-14 the OMHA teams become much stronger and more competitive with the top 3 teams in the G. By U-16, there are always several OMHA teams in the top 10 ranked AAA teams in Ontario. The question remains, why does Vaughan not have a AAA team in the OMHA, and why is the cost of playing AAA hockey in the G double of what it costs to play AAA hockey in the OMHA?

The first part of this is bang on. It's criminal how organizations sell themselves on the success of these older age groups when u10-14 is what the true measure is, because those are the players the organization is responsible for developing.

On why it costs more in the G: free rides and paid coaches. It is what it is.

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Guest wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:59 am Any update on what is happeneing with the coyotes?

They're no longer going to exist. Kids have to go to markham waxers for AAA. See link to article above by OMHA.

OMHA eliminating more teams in the AAA loop to become more competitive with the GTHL. Bloody Joke! the OMHA think that they will be able to retain their players if the teams are more competitive. Its far from what will happen. Players at the older ages will continue to be drawn to the G. OMHA needs some fresh executives with a forward way of thinking. Eliminating teams is not the answer.

Why does the OMHA not have a Vaughan based team, similar to Markham having two teams?

VK home arena is in Toronto, technically they don’t have a team.

But nobody in Vaughan would sign up for OMHA garbage.

Thats not true. The parents that would prefer to pay half the cost of playing in the G as well as playing closer to home, would be extremely interested in playing for a Vaughan based OMHA AAA team. It's crazy that Markham has two teams, but Vaughan does not. Vaughan doesn't even have a team that plays in Vaughan. The township that has the highest registration numbers in all of Canada doesn't have a AAA team.

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:40 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:58 am I really don’t understand the saltyness towards omha or ego with gthl. You play where you live unless you lie, so there’s a good character trait about g parent. There are better teams at the top in the G in the younger years because there’s no borders, making a very uncompetitive season for most game. Teenage years, omha teams share the top few spot in Ontario and or are better than Gthl.
Comes down to development and there’s just as many drafts from omha as the G. The biggest difference is cost to develop and you’re much more likely to pay up and have a more dramatic journey for your children and parents in the G. According to this website anyway.

OMHA
Pros: less expensive, close for practices, good level of hockey usually.
Cons: you MUST play where you live and are stuck with whoever they put in as coach and which kids make up the core group, not as high level hockey as the G, travel to places like Barrie and Kingston for games.

GTHL
Pros: 12 AAA teams and ~30 AA and A teams to choose from depending on coach and core group which is best for you and your family, higher level of hockey, games all within a close proximity.
Cons: more expensive, bribery happens, free rides happen.

I've had boys play in both the GTHL and OMHA, and by far the most drama/politics are in the OMHA because people are stuck there and cliques form. In the G, you can just leave if you don't like it, find another team. In the OMHA, families are often run out of the sport because they get forced into a corner.

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:39 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:40 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:58 am I really don’t understand the saltyness towards omha or ego with gthl. You play where you live unless you lie, so there’s a good character trait about g parent. There are better teams at the top in the G in the younger years because there’s no borders, making a very uncompetitive season for most game. Teenage years, omha teams share the top few spot in Ontario and or are better than Gthl.
Comes down to development and there’s just as many drafts from omha as the G. The biggest difference is cost to develop and you’re much more likely to pay up and have a more dramatic journey for your children and parents in the G. According to this website anyway.

OMHA
Pros: less expensive, close for practices, good level of hockey usually.
Cons: you MUST play where you live and are stuck with whoever they put in as coach and which kids make up the core group, not as high level hockey as the G, travel to places like Barrie and Kingston for games.

GTHL
Pros: 12 AAA teams and ~30 AA and A teams to choose from depending on coach and core group which is best for you and your family, higher level of hockey, games all within a close proximity.
Cons: more expensive, bribery happens, free rides happen.

I've had boys play in both the GTHL and OMHA, and by far the most drama/politics are in the OMHA because people are stuck there and cliques form. In the G, you can just leave if you don't like it, find another team. In the OMHA, families are often run out of the sport because they get forced into a corner.

Everything Changes at U-14 (minor bantam) in the O, it becomes like the G because anyone in the O can play on any team in the O. hence why by U-14 the OMHA teams become much stronger and more competitive with the top 3 teams in the G. By U-16, there are always several OMHA teams in the top 10 ranked AAA teams in Ontario. The question remains, why does Vaughan not have a AAA team in the OMHA, and why is the cost of playing AAA hockey in the G double of what it costs to play AAA hockey in the OMHA?