Man, you're one angry person and apparently not overly bright. Do you disagree with my opinion or not? If you do disagree, I'd be curious as to why. But if you don't have anything to add to the discussion, then just FO and let the grownups talk.Guest wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 3:55 pmYou asked for counterpoints to a pointless opinion. Jesus man you're a stupid shitstain. Waste our Fn time. Take a Fn hike and bring your pointless opinion with you .Guest wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 3:49 pmI’m the one who first stated my opinion, so until it’s challenged there’s no onus on me to make any arguments as to why I hold that position. If someone disagrees, I will either defend my stance as to why I feel that way or I will be convinced and change my mind. Any other questions or would you like to move on and discuss the actual topic of this thread?Guest wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:24 pmHow can someone counterpoint your useless opinion when you offered zero points as why you think it's bad for minor hockey.Guest wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:58 pm While I personally think that leagues like this are bad for youth hockey, I’d be very interested to hear a counterpoint to my opinion.
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Talk? You're not bringing anything intelligent to the table you piss breath MFer. Maybe when you enlighten us as to why you don't believe leagues like this are good for minor hockey I can respond to why I may agree or disagree with your points. F'in cross eyed buck tooth goof, give your dad his phone back.
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This conversation would be so much more effective in person. But sorry rageoholic, I've stated my opinion. If you disagree, cool. If you disagree and you'd like to articulate (that means to express yourself clearly) a counterpoint to my position, even better. If not, I'll let you get back your busy day of screaming and smashing stuff.
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If you would articulate your stance I will be able to agree or disagree with some or all of you stance. Holy fack man you fell out of the dumbfuk shitstain tree and hit every branch on the way down.
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Hahaha! My stance (as previously stated) is that i believe that leagues like this are bad for youth hockey.
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I'm not one of the quacks that won't actually state their case. Inherently there is nothing wrong with Klevr. Not everyone needs to play in the NYHL. This was obviously demonstrated with Leaside, North Toronto, Forest Hill and Scarborough started the CDS program. After a couple of years most organizations in the GTA are doing something similar and only a few remain within the NYHL.
Is the Klevr model something I would sign my kid up to as a 2017 or 2016 - hell no. Development in cross-ice and half-ice, in my opinion, is just better at these young ages. I think for 2015s, there is a viable argument that playing full ice all year is helpful and NYHL is doing that anyway. Believe CDS does 1/2 ice for half the year and then goes full ice. I also think that Klevr fees are outrageous and the level of coaching will be no better than what you would get at many of the organizations that are in CDS or NYHL. Ultimately, the most problematic aspect of Klevr is that it will be taking away a reasonable number of higher end kids from NYHL and CDS and watering down everything. GTHL AAA is good because you get a high number of strong hockey players all in one organization - it's not perfect and the hockey is still watered down because there are 12 teams, but the point remains, having all of the best talent in a smaller group is better development for all of them.
The better draw for Klevr would have been to use fall/winter as a true development model and then enter into a number of spring tournaments to challenge teams like Bulldogs and Pro Hockey, but they can't do that, because they have no clout and no ability to attract the true top end kids, because Bulldogs and Pro Hockey have the Brick monopoly.
Would love to see Klevr succeed, but after a few years I suspect it fizzles out and people realize they get way more value playing in community organizations at this age for a fraction of the cost. The best kids will find their way to AAA, don't need to pay 2x-3x to do it.
