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Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:45 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:28 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:57 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:31 am

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Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:08 am

I don't care is what I am saying.
If they open it fully - cool. If they only allow movement within OMHA, thats cool too.

My order of "important things to get fixed" is that kid who lives in tim-buk-too and their center is run by a bunch of yahoos. They happen to not like the kids parents so the kid never plays AA or A in his entire life.

Some kid who played on Purple Cobras and wants to tell everyone he plays in the G. Is very LOW on my "give a shit list"

Why call them weirdos?? You don't know their situation!

Buddy, shut up...
If you are willing to drive your kid from a local AAA center, just to put them in another AAA center but it would cause MOST people an extra 2-3hours of driving daily just so you can play in Toronto - you are VERY likely a weirdo.

Give me one legit reason why it would make sense.

And, like I've clarified - I am not against it, if thats what people want to do, I think they should be able to. But, it doesn't stop me from thinking they are weirdos. So, get bent.

If OHF is only willing to make open borders within OMHA and not between GTHL and OMHA, I personally am fine with it because it solves the current REAL issue. The REAL issue is kids are not able to escape abusive or unfair situations right now. This would allow that. Which is WAYYY more important than someone who just HAPPENS to want to play in the G, but lives 1.5hrs away.

This is not a AAA issue. Bang on about the escape issue, also about costs and expectations.

There are dramatically different costs between centres even within the same calibre. G is going to almost double because of private ice time costs and paid coaches. Some OMHA teams pay professional trainers $200/hour, some have a competent ex-hockey player coach, and some have a house-league dad that watches youtube videos on how to make a two foot turn. Pick your poison.

Everyone is generally happier in G scenario because they all know what they are getting into. The OMHA situations are always terrible because you have a mixed bag of expectations from the parents and players. Even on teams where my wife and I were very happy with the coaching, an opposing group of parents felt very different. Everyone's expectations were valid, but literally impossible to fulfill.

Yes, A\AA level kids are playing in D\C\B centers because they are banned from A\AA hockey because of borders. Those families expect and want a lot more but are not allowed to get it, meanwhile a true B kid has a great time and gets to play with kids above his skill level to elevate him.

Seriously the B center might have 1 practise a week, and 1 or 2 games. For a AA\A skilled player this is awful and the family watches the neighboring center pull D level kids into their AA teams and run 4 practises a week. All because of arbitrary borders.

Your association lied to you, or you are being dramatic. OMHA rule 3.5 - you can go now, you don't need open borders.

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:17 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:12 pm Coaching applications are open at some AAA centers already, I'm sure the candidates have some idea of what is going on? why else would you apply.

OHF Bulletin from Nov 13th:
"The Board of Directors of the Ontario Hockey Federation has approved an interim policy governing the announcement and selection timeline for Coaches for the 2025–2026 season. Effective immediately, Associations are not to select or announce Coaches for the upcoming season prior to January 15, 2025. The Ontario Hockey Federation reserves the right to set a different date if deemed necessary.

Reason:
The OHF is currently reviewing the player movement regulations for the 2025-2026 season and inclusive of these regulation considerations are restrictions that may limit associations' ability to retain specific coaching candidates.

Policy Details:
• Coach Announcement Date: No announcements or selections of coaches are permitted prior to January 15, 2025, or any alternative date specified by the OHF.
• Potential Sanctions: Associations and individuals failing to comply with this directive may face penalties for non-compliance with an official decision of the OHF Board of Directors."

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:17 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:12 pm Coaching applications are open at some AAA centers already, I'm sure the candidates have some idea of what is going on? why else would you apply.

OHF Bulletin from Nov 13th:
"The Board of Directors of the Ontario Hockey Federation has approved an interim policy governing the announcement and selection timeline for Coaches for the 2025–2026 season. Effective immediately, Associations are not to select or announce Coaches for the upcoming season prior to January 15, 2025. The Ontario Hockey Federation reserves the right to set a different date if deemed necessary.

Reason:
The OHF is currently reviewing the player movement regulations for the 2025-2026 season and inclusive of these regulation considerations are restrictions that may limit associations' ability to retain specific coaching candidates.

Policy Details:
• Coach Announcement Date: No announcements or selections of coaches are permitted prior to January 15, 2025, or any alternative date specified by the OHF.
• Potential Sanctions: Associations and individuals failing to comply with this directive may face penalties for non-compliance with an official decision of the OHF Board of Directors."

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:48 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:17 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:12 pm Coaching applications are open at some AAA centers already, I'm sure the candidates have some idea of what is going on? why else would you apply.

OHF Bulletin from Nov 13th:
"The Board of Directors of the Ontario Hockey Federation has approved an interim policy governing the announcement and selection timeline for Coaches for the 2025–2026 season. Effective immediately, Associations are not to select or announce Coaches for the upcoming season prior to January 15, 2025. The Ontario Hockey Federation reserves the right to set a different date if deemed necessary.

Reason:
The OHF is currently reviewing the player movement regulations for the 2025-2026 season and inclusive of these regulation considerations are restrictions that may limit associations' ability to retain specific coaching candidates.

Policy Details:
• Coach Announcement Date: No announcements or selections of coaches are permitted prior to January 15, 2025, or any alternative date specified by the OHF.
• Potential Sanctions: Associations and individuals failing to comply with this directive may face penalties for non-compliance with an official decision of the OHF Board of Directors."

Wow. Yep, it's happening.

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:58 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:48 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:17 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:12 pm Coaching applications are open at some AAA centers already, I'm sure the candidates have some idea of what is going on? why else would you apply.

OHF Bulletin from Nov 13th:
"The Board of Directors of the Ontario Hockey Federation has approved an interim policy governing the announcement and selection timeline for Coaches for the 2025–2026 season. Effective immediately, Associations are not to select or announce Coaches for the upcoming season prior to January 15, 2025. The Ontario Hockey Federation reserves the right to set a different date if deemed necessary.

Reason:
The OHF is currently reviewing the player movement regulations for the 2025-2026 season and inclusive of these regulation considerations are restrictions that may limit associations' ability to retain specific coaching candidates.

Policy Details:
• Coach Announcement Date: No announcements or selections of coaches are permitted prior to January 15, 2025, or any alternative date specified by the OHF.
• Potential Sanctions: Associations and individuals failing to comply with this directive may face penalties for non-compliance with an official decision of the OHF Board of Directors."

It is happening and I know its scary, change is hard.
Open boarders will force accountability.
My kid plays on a top AAA team with mediocre parent coaches. There were better candidates, but the coach is friends with the bored. The kids are playing ok, and are having fun. In this situation, it is known if boarders open and the same coach gets the job, 3-5 kids will leave for elite coaching. At the highest levels parents will look to organizations with the best coaching, so all organizations will accountable to their membership. What more could a customer ask for?

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:03 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:58 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:48 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:17 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:12 pm Coaching applications are open at some AAA centers already, I'm sure the candidates have some idea of what is going on? why else would you apply.

OHF Bulletin from Nov 13th:
"The Board of Directors of the Ontario Hockey Federation has approved an interim policy governing the announcement and selection timeline for Coaches for the 2025–2026 season. Effective immediately, Associations are not to select or announce Coaches for the upcoming season prior to January 15, 2025. The Ontario Hockey Federation reserves the right to set a different date if deemed necessary.

Reason:
The OHF is currently reviewing the player movement regulations for the 2025-2026 season and inclusive of these regulation considerations are restrictions that may limit associations' ability to retain specific coaching candidates.

Policy Details:
• Coach Announcement Date: No announcements or selections of coaches are permitted prior to January 15, 2025, or any alternative date specified by the OHF.
• Potential Sanctions: Associations and individuals failing to comply with this directive may face penalties for non-compliance with an official decision of the OHF Board of Directors."

It is happening and I know its scary, change is hard.
Open boarders will force accountability.
My kid plays on a top AAA team with mediocre parent coaches. There were better candidates, but the coach is friends with the bored. The kids are playing ok, and are having fun. In this situation, it is known if boarders open and the same coach gets the job, 3-5 kids will leave for elite coaching. At the highest levels parents will look to organizations with the best coaching, so all organizations will accountable to their membership. What more could a customer ask for?

My kid is OMHA, and younger than U12. I have ZERO interest in a paid coach. I don't think they are better on average than a good parent coach. I've had both since my youngest and oldest have been in hockey and we've had more "Bad" paid coaches than good. Whereas the parent coaches its been mostly good.

Most people are putting their kid in paid skills sessions. What do you need a paid coach for at such a young age? There are lots of parents looking to get teams that are plenty skilled for these younger kids.

no paid coach I've had has EVER been completely unbiased either. They still find their favorites and over play them. They still get influenced by wealthy parents on the team.

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:58 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:48 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:17 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:12 pm Coaching applications are open at some AAA centers already, I'm sure the candidates have some idea of what is going on? why else would you apply.

OHF Bulletin from Nov 13th:
"The Board of Directors of the Ontario Hockey Federation has approved an interim policy governing the announcement and selection timeline for Coaches for the 2025–2026 season. Effective immediately, Associations are not to select or announce Coaches for the upcoming season prior to January 15, 2025. The Ontario Hockey Federation reserves the right to set a different date if deemed necessary.

Reason:
The OHF is currently reviewing the player movement regulations for the 2025-2026 season and inclusive of these regulation considerations are restrictions that may limit associations' ability to retain specific coaching candidates.

Policy Details:
• Coach Announcement Date: No announcements or selections of coaches are permitted prior to January 15, 2025, or any alternative date specified by the OHF.
• Potential Sanctions: Associations and individuals failing to comply with this directive may face penalties for non-compliance with an official decision of the OHF Board of Directors."

Wow. Yep, it's happening.

Is this publicly available somewhere?

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:48 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:17 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:12 pm Coaching applications are open at some AAA centers already, I'm sure the candidates have some idea of what is going on? why else would you apply.

OHF Bulletin from Nov 13th:
"The Board of Directors of the Ontario Hockey Federation has approved an interim policy governing the announcement and selection timeline for Coaches for the 2025–2026 season. Effective immediately, Associations are not to select or announce Coaches for the upcoming season prior to January 15, 2025. The Ontario Hockey Federation reserves the right to set a different date if deemed necessary.

Reason:
The OHF is currently reviewing the player movement regulations for the 2025-2026 season and inclusive of these regulation considerations are restrictions that may limit associations' ability to retain specific coaching candidates.

Policy Details:
• Coach Announcement Date: No announcements or selections of coaches are permitted prior to January 15, 2025, or any alternative date specified by the OHF.
• Potential Sanctions: Associations and individuals failing to comply with this directive may face penalties for non-compliance with an official decision of the OHF Board of Directors."

Wow. Yep, it's happening.

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:03 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:58 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:48 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:17 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:12 pm Coaching applications are open at some AAA centers already, I'm sure the candidates have some idea of what is going on? why else would you apply.

OHF Bulletin from Nov 13th:
"The Board of Directors of the Ontario Hockey Federation has approved an interim policy governing the announcement and selection timeline for Coaches for the 2025–2026 season. Effective immediately, Associations are not to select or announce Coaches for the upcoming season prior to January 15, 2025. The Ontario Hockey Federation reserves the right to set a different date if deemed necessary.

Reason:
The OHF is currently reviewing the player movement regulations for the 2025-2026 season and inclusive of these regulation considerations are restrictions that may limit associations' ability to retain specific coaching candidates.

Policy Details:
• Coach Announcement Date: No announcements or selections of coaches are permitted prior to January 15, 2025, or any alternative date specified by the OHF.
• Potential Sanctions: Associations and individuals failing to comply with this directive may face penalties for non-compliance with an official decision of the OHF Board of Directors."

It is happening and I know its scary, change is hard.
Open boarders will force accountability.
My kid plays on a top AAA team with mediocre parent coaches. There were better candidates, but the coach is friends with the bored. The kids are playing ok, and are having fun. In this situation, it is known if boarders open and the same coach gets the job, 3-5 kids will leave for elite coaching. At the highest levels parents will look to organizations with the best coaching, so all organizations will accountable to their membership. What more could a customer ask for?

https://waxers.com/Articles/16231/OHF_B ... 26_Season/