OHF Opening borders??

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:24 am

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The majority of parents who aren’t psychologically delayed are happy for their child to play community hockey.
Arthur minor hockey parents would like to talk with you. Their board forced their only U9 team to be called MD so nobody could leave, and now they are horrible and getting killed by everyone. They want to switch back to LL but WOAA won't let them. They handcuffed 2-3 strong kids and have ruined their hockey experience along with the rest of the regular LL kids.
Arthur has a rink??
Why would those kids want to leave Arthur if they aren’t even good enough to win at the MD level? It sounds to me like Arthur did a favour to a bunch of kids who should be playing houseleague.
Picture 6 new to hockey kids, 3 more who can't really skate, and 3 MD level kids. That's basically their team. They had to call it MD to keep the 3 kids or they wouldn't have enough kids left for a team at all.
So the previous poster was right, these kids should be playing house league. Rep isn't something you play because you want to, you have to be good enough...simple as that.

You have to ask yourself also are your kids happier playing with kids they are growing up around or they would rather bounce around year after year often playing with kids they don’t wven get to know the first name of. Sure one or two kids are probably good enough to play at a different level but come highschool age they will probably want to play with their buddies and would play down anyway if they still playing hockey at all.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:29 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 11:44 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:44 pm
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Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:03 pm Why exclude any age groups? It's literally only going to restrict U7-U9MD and nothing else given all LL programming is already unrestricted. That's really dumb if true.
Klevr must have paid them under the table to leave their cash cow alone.
The majority of parents who aren’t psychologically delayed are happy for their child to play community hockey.
Arthur minor hockey parents would like to talk with you. Their board forced their only U9 team to be called MD so nobody could leave, and now they are horrible and getting killed by everyone. They want to switch back to LL but WOAA won't let them. They handcuffed 2-3 strong kids and have ruined their hockey experience along with the rest of the regular LL kids.
Arthur has a rink??

The funny part is almost all the small town rinks are 100x better than the garbage facilities we play at in the GTA.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:39 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:29 am
Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 11:44 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:44 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:23 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:17 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:03 pm Why exclude any age groups? It's literally only going to restrict U7-U9MD and nothing else given all LL programming is already unrestricted. That's really dumb if true.
Klevr must have paid them under the table to leave their cash cow alone.
The majority of parents who aren’t psychologically delayed are happy for their child to play community hockey.
Arthur minor hockey parents would like to talk with you. Their board forced their only U9 team to be called MD so nobody could leave, and now they are horrible and getting killed by everyone. They want to switch back to LL but WOAA won't let them. They handcuffed 2-3 strong kids and have ruined their hockey experience along with the rest of the regular LL kids.
Arthur has a rink??

The funny part is almost all the small town rinks are 100x better than the garbage facilities we play at in the GTA.

Yup pride in maintenance. The guys who work our rink take pride in keeping things including the ice in great shape. You can tell if a place gives a crap by the way the ice is kept.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:58 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:19 am The point being made is those 3 MD kids were not allowed to tryout anywhere for a real MD team, and LL kids were all forced into MD. Remember U9MD is 'rep', as it's the highest level. This is the small associations people are worried about saving and keeping borders closed, but it's actually not good for anyone involved. Open borders those players at least get to tryout and see if they are good or not, or the local association could have gained a few more players enabling them 2 proper teams (1LL and 1MD).

This is not a one off case, Wallace did this exact same thing in that area as well for example. Organizations handcuffing great players to stay alive and make money.

This happens every year across small centers. I was part of a board a few years ago and we made the decision to cancel our rep program and focus on LL. It was the best decision that we could have made. Our LL became stronger, kids would go and tryout for Rep, some made it, but many found out they weren't good enough so the came back and played LL. The organization is growing now because of that decision.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:13 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:24 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:56 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:48 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:10 am
Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 11:44 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:44 pm

Arthur minor hockey parents would like to talk with you. Their board forced their only U9 team to be called MD so nobody could leave, and now they are horrible and getting killed by everyone. They want to switch back to LL but WOAA won't let them. They handcuffed 2-3 strong kids and have ruined their hockey experience along with the rest of the regular LL kids.
Arthur has a rink??
Why would those kids want to leave Arthur if they aren’t even good enough to win at the MD level? It sounds to me like Arthur did a favour to a bunch of kids who should be playing houseleague.
Picture 6 new to hockey kids, 3 more who can't really skate, and 3 MD level kids. That's basically their team. They had to call it MD to keep the 3 kids or they wouldn't have enough kids left for a team at all.
So the previous poster was right, these kids should be playing house league. Rep isn't something you play because you want to, you have to be good enough...simple as that.
You have to ask yourself also are your kids happier playing with kids they are growing up around or they would rather bounce around year after year often playing with kids they don’t wven get to know the first name of. Sure one or two kids are probably good enough to play at a different level but come highschool age they will probably want to play with their buddies and would play down anyway if they still playing hockey at all.

You sound like a coach that's worried that you no longer have a strangle hold on your kids. Now you have to actually start doing what's right and stop playing favorites, or you'll end up losing all your local players. The ball is in our court now.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:53 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:13 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:24 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:56 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:48 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:10 am
Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 11:44 pm

Arthur has a rink??
Why would those kids want to leave Arthur if they aren’t even good enough to win at the MD level? It sounds to me like Arthur did a favour to a bunch of kids who should be playing houseleague.
Picture 6 new to hockey kids, 3 more who can't really skate, and 3 MD level kids. That's basically their team. They had to call it MD to keep the 3 kids or they wouldn't have enough kids left for a team at all.
So the previous poster was right, these kids should be playing house league. Rep isn't something you play because you want to, you have to be good enough...simple as that.
You have to ask yourself also are your kids happier playing with kids they are growing up around or they would rather bounce around year after year often playing with kids they don’t wven get to know the first name of. Sure one or two kids are probably good enough to play at a different level but come highschool age they will probably want to play with their buddies and would play down anyway if they still playing hockey at all.
You sound like a coach that's worried that you no longer have a strangle hold on your kids. Now you have to actually start doing what's right and stop playing favorites, or you'll end up losing all your local players. The ball is in our court now.

Nope not a coach. A player from a small town who has been through it and now with a son going through it. If you want your son to play at the highest level possible the go for it. I just found I liked it better being a go to kid on a lesser team with my friends then playing 3rd line on a low level rep squad.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:39 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:53 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:13 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:24 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:56 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:48 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:10 am

Why would those kids want to leave Arthur if they aren’t even good enough to win at the MD level? It sounds to me like Arthur did a favour to a bunch of kids who should be playing houseleague.
Picture 6 new to hockey kids, 3 more who can't really skate, and 3 MD level kids. That's basically their team. They had to call it MD to keep the 3 kids or they wouldn't have enough kids left for a team at all.
So the previous poster was right, these kids should be playing house league. Rep isn't something you play because you want to, you have to be good enough...simple as that.
You have to ask yourself also are your kids happier playing with kids they are growing up around or they would rather bounce around year after year often playing with kids they don’t wven get to know the first name of. Sure one or two kids are probably good enough to play at a different level but come highschool age they will probably want to play with their buddies and would play down anyway if they still playing hockey at all.
You sound like a coach that's worried that you no longer have a strangle hold on your kids. Now you have to actually start doing what's right and stop playing favorites, or you'll end up losing all your local players. The ball is in our court now.
Nope not a coach. A player from a small town who has been through it and now with a son going through it. If you want your son to play at the highest level possible the go for it. I just found I liked it better being a go to kid on a lesser team with my friends then playing 3rd line on a low level rep squad.

I play shinny with a bunch of guys who started in LL & Select and then went over to Rep. Almost every time we talk about our kids playing minor hockey, they ALL said they wish they wouldn't stayed in LL and played with their buddies. They kept telling themselves falsely that they had a chance to make the show.

At the end of the day, it's a choice you and your family need to make. Play where you will have the most fun within your budget. That's it!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:43 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:39 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:53 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:13 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:24 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:56 am
Guest wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:48 am

Picture 6 new to hockey kids, 3 more who can't really skate, and 3 MD level kids. That's basically their team. They had to call it MD to keep the 3 kids or they wouldn't have enough kids left for a team at all.
So the previous poster was right, these kids should be playing house league. Rep isn't something you play because you want to, you have to be good enough...simple as that.
You have to ask yourself also are your kids happier playing with kids they are growing up around or they would rather bounce around year after year often playing with kids they don’t wven get to know the first name of. Sure one or two kids are probably good enough to play at a different level but come highschool age they will probably want to play with their buddies and would play down anyway if they still playing hockey at all.
You sound like a coach that's worried that you no longer have a strangle hold on your kids. Now you have to actually start doing what's right and stop playing favorites, or you'll end up losing all your local players. The ball is in our court now.
Nope not a coach. A player from a small town who has been through it and now with a son going through it. If you want your son to play at the highest level possible the go for it. I just found I liked it better being a go to kid on a lesser team with my friends then playing 3rd line on a low level rep squad.
I play shinny with a bunch of guys who started in LL & Select and then went over to Rep. Almost every time we talk about our kids playing minor hockey, they ALL said they wish they wouldn't stayed in LL and played with their buddies. They kept telling themselves falsely that they had a chance to make the show.

At the end of the day, it's a choice you and your family need to make. Play where you will have the most fun within your budget. That's it!

*would've not wouldn't

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:42 pm

It's about the experience. Every center offers very different experiences. Some never travel for tournaments or do Hotels, 1 local tournament a year. Others will do 4 tournaments and hotels, matching gear, parties, etc.

If your border locked to the 1 local tournament center and wanted to experience the rest it's very sad that you can't even tryout for it.

I played A growing up, nobody thought they were going anywhere, I have yet to actually cross paths with a parent\player that actually thinks they have a chance outside of Junior A players. We need to stop that argument, everyone knows their kid won't make the show, but scholarships are worth a ton and very achievable.

I Can't imagine being in these small centers and barred from trying for for levels between AAA and D.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:32 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:09 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:00 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:52 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:40 pm The Player Movement Committee would like to say thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts and comments. Your insights have been invaluable, and the Committee appreciates your engagement and feedback.

The Player Movement Committee started its work on March 19, 2024 with a mandate to review the movement restrictions affecting player participation within the minor playing categories of the OHF Members (ALLIANCE, GTHL, NOHA, OMH). Our focus remains on enhancing the participant experience.

After thorough deliberation, the Committee has provided the following concepts have been considered to the OHF Board:
1. The current movement restrictions require change to better serve participants.
2. Beginning with the 2025-2026 hockey season, Freedom of Movement should be allowed for players in the U10 age group and above, across all categories.
3. Participants in the U9 age group and below will continue participating in home or local programming.
4. A pause on representative teams for U10 and above should be implemented. This will allow the OHF to review and determine the appropriate number of teams per age group and category.
5. Geographically structured leagues should be developed and implemented to better support participation and accessibility.

To achieve these goals, the Committee, in collaboration with the Senior Leadership team of the OHF's Minor Members, has drafted rule changes that align with these recommendations. These drafts will be presented to OHF Members and Associations, and the Player Movement Committee will finalize its direction coming out of the 2024 November Meeting.

To meet the proposed timeline, a Special Members Meeting will need to be convened before the Christmas break this year to finalize and approve the necessary changes.
Thank you for your continued support and dedication to improving the hockey experience for all participants. Should you have any further questions or feedback, please do not hesitate to reach out.

Sincerely,

Player Movement Committee
Source?

Straight from the OHF communications email.
What OHF communications email??

Exactly, where can this be found? I would assume if it is legit, the original post was probably someone within an association that received it...

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