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Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:04 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:28 pm Fewer teams will make it more competitive and that should be the goal. They also need to focus on how to retain kids. There are a very large group of of kids from OMHA zones who continue to leave for the G.

Should have kept the associations but left the borders open.

But this would have still resulted in poor competition with a lot of kids not AAA level but making the team due to roster spots having to be filled. The dissolving of some teams was a good start but they need to reduce teams further.

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:27 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:04 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:28 pm Fewer teams will make it more competitive and that should be the goal. They also need to focus on how to retain kids. There are a very large group of of kids from OMHA zones who continue to leave for the G.

Should have kept the associations but left the borders open.

But this would have still resulted in poor competition with a lot of kids not AAA level but making the team due to roster spots having to be filled. The dissolving of some teams was a good start but they need to reduce teams further.

This simply isn't true.

there WILL ALWAYS be super teams that players and the organization will bend the rules to play there. You could have 4 teams, and it would still be unbalanced.

Less teams isn't the answer, POLICING the abusers of the rules and giving harsh penalties to parents and organizations is how you fix it.

Any idiot who thinks two or three less teams is going to magically make the quality of play better, is exactly that - an IDIOT. Most parents aren't going to travel, the best players don't even make teams because of politics. Its all BS. Taking opportunities to kids who want to be there is not how you solve this.

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:45 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:27 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:04 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:28 pm Fewer teams will make it more competitive and that should be the goal. They also need to focus on how to retain kids. There are a very large group of of kids from OMHA zones who continue to leave for the G.

Should have kept the associations but left the borders open.

But this would have still resulted in poor competition with a lot of kids not AAA level but making the team due to roster spots having to be filled. The dissolving of some teams was a good start but they need to reduce teams further.

This simply isn't true.

there WILL ALWAYS be super teams that players and the organization will bend the rules to play there. You could have 4 teams, and it would still be unbalanced.

Less teams isn't the answer, POLICING the abusers of the rules and giving harsh penalties to parents and organizations is how you fix it.

Any idiot who thinks two or three less teams is going to magically make the quality of play better, is exactly that - an IDIOT. Most parents aren't going to travel, the best players don't even make teams because of politics. Its all BS. Taking opportunities to kids who want to be there is not how you solve this.

Just open the borders. There enough AAA talent just not in some centres. Open borders is the answer.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:19 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:45 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:27 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:04 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:28 pm Fewer teams will make it more competitive and that should be the goal. They also need to focus on how to retain kids. There are a very large group of of kids from OMHA zones who continue to leave for the G.

Should have kept the associations but left the borders open.

But this would have still resulted in poor competition with a lot of kids not AAA level but making the team due to roster spots having to be filled. The dissolving of some teams was a good start but they need to reduce teams further.

This simply isn't true.

there WILL ALWAYS be super teams that players and the organization will bend the rules to play there. You could have 4 teams, and it would still be unbalanced.

Less teams isn't the answer, POLICING the abusers of the rules and giving harsh penalties to parents and organizations is how you fix it.

Any idiot who thinks two or three less teams is going to magically make the quality of play better, is exactly that - an IDIOT. Most parents aren't going to travel, the best players don't even make teams because of politics. Its all BS. Taking opportunities to kids who want to be there is not how you solve this.

Just open the borders. There enough AAA talent just not in some centres. Open borders is the answer.

Yeah, you might as well - because there is already people cheating and makings super teams. Then you might actually get a bit of parity.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:23 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:19 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:45 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:27 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:04 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:28 pm Fewer teams will make it more competitive and that should be the goal. They also need to focus on how to retain kids. There are a very large group of of kids from OMHA zones who continue to leave for the G.

Should have kept the associations but left the borders open.

But this would have still resulted in poor competition with a lot of kids not AAA level but making the team due to roster spots having to be filled. The dissolving of some teams was a good start but they need to reduce teams further.

This simply isn't true.

there WILL ALWAYS be super teams that players and the organization will bend the rules to play there. You could have 4 teams, and it would still be unbalanced.

Less teams isn't the answer, POLICING the abusers of the rules and giving harsh penalties to parents and organizations is how you fix it.

Any idiot who thinks two or three less teams is going to magically make the quality of play better, is exactly that - an IDIOT. Most parents aren't going to travel, the best players don't even make teams because of politics. Its all BS. Taking opportunities to kids who want to be there is not how you solve this.

Just open the borders. There enough AAA talent just not in some centres. Open borders is the answer.

Yeah, you might as well - because there is already people cheating and makings super teams. Then you might actually get a bit of parity.

We should be looking to dissolve OMHA! Bunch of clowns.

A lot of kids end up leaving OMHA home centres due to lack of competition. A lot of politics.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:54 pm A lot of kids end up leaving OMHA home centres due to lack of competition. A lot of politics.

Having played in both. The G is way worse. Their open border policy enables All the back room deals and money. Movement is much harder in the OMHA and, aside from the most motivated, players stay in their home centre. The OMHA is suffering because it’s very easy for kids to move to the G. This drains the pool more than movement within the league.

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:56 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:54 pm A lot of kids end up leaving OMHA home centres due to lack of competition. A lot of politics.

Having played in both. The G is way worse. Their open border policy enables All the back room deals and money. Movement is much harder in the OMHA and, aside from the most motivated, players stay in their home centre. The OMHA is suffering because it’s very easy for kids to move to the G. This drains the pool more than movement within the league.

Boarders only serve to trap good players, so they can prop up shitty organizations. The people who want them is because they know if kids and parents had a choice no one would play for that shitty team… if you have a good org and a good program kids will WANT to play there.

It feels like due to many reason hockey is declining in Canada. Instead of adressing this challenges governing bodies only simulate work and make constant changes without changing anything.
It is long overdue for minor hockey to totally change its model and move away from parent coaches, yearly tryouts inability for AA teams to move to AAA division and visa versa etc to a normal European practice when a club is either a commercial or not-for-profit organization with an owner who could be a businessman or a city-town. That club will have both office staff if needed and salaried coaches. Fees are open and known in advance.
Teams should move freely between divisions, this will reduce politics and there won't be a situation like this year in 2014 in G with Reps and Wolverines.
All those modern slavery rules in OMHA should be abolished as well. A kid from Orillia can change his or her gender but can't choose to play in Barrie.
Though any meaningful changes require a certain level of bravery and determination from officials and it will break shady business of too many.

So the minor hockey will keep declining further. And officials and coaches will still think that there'll still be enough kids enrolled into the sports before their retirement.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:54 pm A lot of kids end up leaving OMHA home centres due to lack of competition. A lot of politics.

Yeah that's super crazy hockey mom for your opinion on small town hockey. Go away already. You're the problem.