OMHA - Realignment - take a closer look at how you are effecting players!

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Re: OMHA - Realignment - take a closer look at how you are effecting players!

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Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:32 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:51 am
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:27 am
Alls wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:58 am If a center realigns from BB to A and your child plays in a AA/A Centre they can no longer try out for the team they have been apart of for years.

The kids that have been earning a NRP spot each year have to tryout and earn the spot and it is a maximum of 3 spots.

Those players deserve to kept trying out in that Centre. It has become home for them and they consider it their team. It should not be a lateral move is the point of the comment.

There is a reason those players are tryout in neighboring centers. Perhaps its because it is a healthier and better environment for the player as well as hockey development 🤷‍♀️

That's what is meant by a grandfather clause, not grandfathering players in for years at a time.

Also the comment about calling a person a whiner or telling a person to suck it up and or move is a bit brutal! 😕

I know 3 different families from 2 different centers it affects and it's not an easy situation for anyone! Everyone is entitled to a respectful opinion. 💙
The issue is your association in now at the level of what your kid has been trying out for. So your player can play A at their old BB now A centre. now other BB centre kids can have an opportunity to NRP to that team. Its time to go back to your centre since your not a resident of that other centre.
Guest wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:48 pm The only clown is the one whining about residency. Omha has residency rules. NRP's are a 1 year contract. There are no rules for lateral movement. You want to grandfather all levels of hockey? No rules and no tryouts. Just grandfather everyone. That's a clown show.
In some cases the home center has been re-designated but the quality of play has not matched the designation. In that case the player may be in a higher center only by play and not letter. As a parent who wants their kids to excel at all things they do in life I would want them to reach out an do the very best they can in all endeavors. I don't believe its anything against home centers and actually it should be looked at as a positive that the home centers are producing players and watching them move on to bigger and brighter things. A mother bird kicks all chicks out of the nest at some point........
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Some do it this way though:

https://youtu.be/wTDRyvWBbXU
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Re: OMHA - Realignment - take a closer look at how you are effecting players!

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Guest wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:50 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:32 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:51 am
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:27 am
Alls wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:58 am If a center realigns from BB to A and your child plays in a AA/A Centre they can no longer try out for the team they have been apart of for years.

The kids that have been earning a NRP spot each year have to tryout and earn the spot and it is a maximum of 3 spots.

Those players deserve to kept trying out in that Centre. It has become home for them and they consider it their team. It should not be a lateral move is the point of the comment.

There is a reason those players are tryout in neighboring centers. Perhaps its because it is a healthier and better environment for the player as well as hockey development 🤷‍♀️

That's what is meant by a grandfather clause, not grandfathering players in for years at a time.

Also the comment about calling a person a whiner or telling a person to suck it up and or move is a bit brutal! 😕

I know 3 different families from 2 different centers it affects and it's not an easy situation for anyone! Everyone is entitled to a respectful opinion. 💙
The issue is your association in now at the level of what your kid has been trying out for. So your player can play A at their old BB now A centre. now other BB centre kids can have an opportunity to NRP to that team. Its time to go back to your centre since your not a resident of that other centre.
Guest wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:48 pm The only clown is the one whining about residency. Omha has residency rules. NRP's are a 1 year contract. There are no rules for lateral movement. You want to grandfather all levels of hockey? No rules and no tryouts. Just grandfather everyone. That's a clown show.
In some cases the home center has been re-designated but the quality of play has not matched the designation. In that case the player may be in a higher center only by play and not letter. As a parent who wants their kids to excel at all things they do in life I would want them to reach out an do the very best they can in all endeavors. I don't believe its anything against home centers and actually it should be looked at as a positive that the home centers are producing players and watching them move on to bigger and brighter things. A mother bird kicks all chicks out of the nest at some point........
Some do it this way though:

https://youtu.be/wTDRyvWBbXU
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Maybe you should talk less and ask your kid what he wants! Novel idea eh.
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Re: OMHA - Realignment - take a closer look at how you are effecting players!

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Guest wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:21 am
Guest wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:50 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:32 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:51 am
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:27 am
Alls wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:58 am If a center realigns from BB to A and your child plays in a AA/A Centre they can no longer try out for the team they have been apart of for years.

The kids that have been earning a NRP spot each year have to tryout and earn the spot and it is a maximum of 3 spots.

Those players deserve to kept trying out in that Centre. It has become home for them and they consider it their team. It should not be a lateral move is the point of the comment.

There is a reason those players are tryout in neighboring centers. Perhaps its because it is a healthier and better environment for the player as well as hockey development 🤷‍♀️

That's what is meant by a grandfather clause, not grandfathering players in for years at a time.

Also the comment about calling a person a whiner or telling a person to suck it up and or move is a bit brutal! 😕

I know 3 different families from 2 different centers it affects and it's not an easy situation for anyone! Everyone is entitled to a respectful opinion. 💙
The issue is your association in now at the level of what your kid has been trying out for. So your player can play A at their old BB now A centre. now other BB centre kids can have an opportunity to NRP to that team. Its time to go back to your centre since your not a resident of that other centre.
Guest wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:48 pm The only clown is the one whining about residency. Omha has residency rules. NRP's are a 1 year contract. There are no rules for lateral movement. You want to grandfather all levels of hockey? No rules and no tryouts. Just grandfather everyone. That's a clown show.
In some cases the home center has been re-designated but the quality of play has not matched the designation. In that case the player may be in a higher center only by play and not letter. As a parent who wants their kids to excel at all things they do in life I would want them to reach out an do the very best they can in all endeavors. I don't believe its anything against home centers and actually it should be looked at as a positive that the home centers are producing players and watching them move on to bigger and brighter things. A mother bird kicks all chicks out of the nest at some point........
Some do it this way though:

https://youtu.be/wTDRyvWBbXU
Maybe you should talk less and ask your kid what he wants! Novel idea eh.
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I know what my child wants and what's best for my family!!!!!! You shouldnt judge when people want to play where they thrive and develop!!!!! Everyone handles situations differently and know's what's best for their child!!!!! OMHA should respect that and honor the grandfather clause!!!!! :oops: :oops:
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Re: OMHA - Realignment - take a closer look at how you are effecting players!

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Guest wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:58 pm To anyone complaining, the OMHA is a ridiculously bad league. Terrible! One step above the Alliance which shouldn’t even qualify as hockey.

Realignment may help your league get stronger and you desperately need that. Embrace it.
Projected top 7 for OHL draft:
Schaefer(OMHA)
Martin(Alliance)
Roobroeck(Alliance)
Hopkins(OMHA)
Griffin(OMHA)
Beauchesne(HEO)
Nesbitt(Alliance)

Weird, I dont see a list of GTHL kids ;) ;)
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Re: OMHA - Realignment - take a closer look at how you are effecting players!

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Guest wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:34 am
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:58 pm To anyone complaining, the OMHA is a ridiculously bad league. Terrible! One step above the Alliance which shouldn’t even qualify as hockey.

Realignment may help your league get stronger and you desperately need that. Embrace it.
Projected top 7 for OHL draft:
Schaefer(OMHA)
Martin(Alliance)
Roobroeck(Alliance)
Hopkins(OMHA)
Griffin(OMHA)
Beauchesne(HEO)
Nesbitt(Alliance)

Weird, I dont see a list of GTHL kids ;) ;)
Well it’s convenient that you aren’t including Misa or Moore as this is a list of 07s and they would both be at or near the top. It is great to see the different leagues represented but I think a lot of these guys benefit from little fish in big pond syndrome. Most of these guys struggled at the OHL cup against top talent.
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Re: OMHA - Realignment - take a closer look at how you are effecting players!

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Guest wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:51 pm
Guest wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:34 am
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:58 pm To anyone complaining, the OMHA is a ridiculously bad league. Terrible! One step above the Alliance which shouldn’t even qualify as hockey.

Realignment may help your league get stronger and you desperately need that. Embrace it.
Projected top 7 for OHL draft:
Schaefer(OMHA)
Martin(Alliance)
Roobroeck(Alliance)
Hopkins(OMHA)
Griffin(OMHA)
Beauchesne(HEO)
Nesbitt(Alliance)

Weird, I dont see a list of GTHL kids ;) ;)
Well it’s convenient that you aren’t including Misa or Moore as this is a list of 07s and they would both be at or near the top. It is great to see the different leagues represented but I think a lot of these guys benefit from little fish in big pond syndrome. Most of these guys struggled at the OHL cup against top talent.
No way Misa is in the top ten for the OHL draft this year. His GTHL production really fell off this year /s
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Re: OMHA - Realignment - take a closer look at how you are effecting players!

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Guest wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:28 am
Guest wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:21 am
Guest wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:50 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:32 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:51 am
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:27 am
Alls wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:58 am If a center realigns from BB to A and your child plays in a AA/A Centre they can no longer try out for the team they have been apart of for years.

The kids that have been earning a NRP spot each year have to tryout and earn the spot and it is a maximum of 3 spots.

Those players deserve to kept trying out in that Centre. It has become home for them and they consider it their team. It should not be a lateral move is the point of the comment.

There is a reason those players are tryout in neighboring centers. Perhaps its because it is a healthier and better environment for the player as well as hockey development 🤷‍♀️

That's what is meant by a grandfather clause, not grandfathering players in for years at a time.

Also the comment about calling a person a whiner or telling a person to suck it up and or move is a bit brutal! 😕

I know 3 different families from 2 different centers it affects and it's not an easy situation for anyone! Everyone is entitled to a respectful opinion. 💙
The issue is your association in now at the level of what your kid has been trying out for. So your player can play A at their old BB now A centre. now other BB centre kids can have an opportunity to NRP to that team. Its time to go back to your centre since your not a resident of that other centre.
Guest wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:48 pm The only clown is the one whining about residency. Omha has residency rules. NRP's are a 1 year contract. There are no rules for lateral movement. You want to grandfather all levels of hockey? No rules and no tryouts. Just grandfather everyone. That's a clown show.
In some cases the home center has been re-designated but the quality of play has not matched the designation. In that case the player may be in a higher center only by play and not letter. As a parent who wants their kids to excel at all things they do in life I would want them to reach out an do the very best they can in all endeavors. I don't believe its anything against home centers and actually it should be looked at as a positive that the home centers are producing players and watching them move on to bigger and brighter things. A mother bird kicks all chicks out of the nest at some point........
Some do it this way though:

https://youtu.be/wTDRyvWBbXU
Maybe you should talk less and ask your kid what he wants! Novel idea eh.
I know what my child wants and what's best for my family!!!!!! You shouldnt judge when people want to play where they thrive and develop!!!!! Everyone handles situations differently and know's what's best for their child!!!!! OMHA should respect that and honor the grandfather clause!!!!! :oops: :oops:
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That's a lot of exclamation marks. Perhaps it's not your kid's mental health that needs consideration. Perhaps it's yours. Give it some thought.
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Re: OMHA - Realignment - take a closer look at how you are effecting players!

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This may not be a popular opinion but it is fact. I am not singling out any player, team or organization with this post.

Many years ago a city had 3 rep teams....A, AA, AAA. There was not 3 tiers of AA, 6 single A, friggen BB teams.... Blue, White, Fuchsia etc....If a player was not good enough for AAA...he went down to AA...or A. If he still did not have the skill he played House League and maybe joined a select team. Those were the days that rep teams were the best of the best. If a kid wanted to be part of that exclusive group they had to work their ass off to get there....Period! Now with the millennial mentality that every kid has to get a medal or has the right to play rep the whole world...not just the hockey has gone to shit! So stop crying about a kids mental health...its called life. Adversity and challenges actually teaches the children to set goals, do better, work harder to achieve their goals.

Nowadays anyone's kid can get on a team if the parents either pay enough money, stir up enough shit or play politics with the organization. Hell they even create new teams just to appease the parents so the kid can wear the logo on the chest.

So we are left with what we have now...entitled parents with more money than brains, lazy entitled kids with no work ethic or realistic expectations and organizations that will do anything to get these parents to pay thousands of dollars a year to make their program look better.

The sad fact is that the entire Hockey system is broken. It is diluted. Every young hockey players dream is to make it to the NHL, and the dream is such a small percentage of reality that simple statistics would prove that only a small handful of the best even have a shot at cracking any type of draft. If your kid isn't a "Lights Out Stud", top 3-5 player on a AAA team that is ranked in the top 10 teams, by the time he is 14 years old then it is likely he will age out...NO scholarship to a NCAA school, NO OHL, definitely NO NHL. So you might as well enjoy it for what it is...a game we all love, played by our kids.

NRP players are not taking spots away from local kids. If local players want to crack a AAA squad then they have to EARN IT! They have to put in the work to ensure that some import doesn't take the spot they want. You shouldn't be automatically given a spot on an elite AAA team because of your postal code. If there is a spot available on a team and it comes down to an import and a local player of equal skill level, you better believe the local kid will get that spot 9 times out of 10.

NRP players are often players who are among the best on their local team. They move from their home centre for better training, coaching and to play with players of better skill, because their own city has diluted their system so much that their own so called "AAA" team is made up of players who at best would be a AA. Grandfathering NRP players is the right thing to do. Having their own local city centre hold them hostage is wrong. Making them play for a team that will hold it against them for leaving in the first place and cannot offer the elite program that they left in the first place to join is ridiculous. Want to talk about kids mental health...what kind of anxiety and toxic environment will that produce when you force that kid into a dressing room that he left for whatever reasons he had. That is a tough situation for some adults to handle, let alone 12, 13, 14 year olds. It might even be enough for them to mentally check out of the game all together.

I have seen so many kids thrive under their new teams, they have made lifelong friendships and developed skills both on and off the ice that they had been missing from their own home centre teams. They have a goal and are working their asses off to achieve that goal....these kids are the 1%. I have equally seen kids plateau and not develop to their projected skill level, where after this years tryout season will most likely be shipped off back to their own city making room for a local player who has enough drive to TAKE that spot!

This is the hard truth....Success is not given...it's earned. This is the message I have delivered to my own son. Not once since he decided to lace up the skates have I manufactured his path to the level he is playing now. I do not play in team/organizational politics, I am not wealthy and cannot afford to send him to every single cash grab development thing that is out there. I only ever encourage his goals, applaud his successes and remind him that his failures are learning opportunities. That only he can make his dreams happen and that he has to continue to take it upon himself to do the things necessary to succeed. This is not just a message to help him succeed in hockey....THIS IS A LIFE SKILL! Something that can translate to life after hockey in his Career, family, friendships. Something all parents should be doing, instead of just buying their kid opportunities.

These elite players, my son included, have earned spots because of their hard work and dedication to their team, the sport and themselves. These are the ones that are the next generation of professionals we all watch on TV. The professionals our grandkids will see as heroes and gods...fueling them to be like that one day.

Whether you like or hate a kid personally doesn't give you the right to use your own inadequacies to sabotage their goals. Don't ever stand on your soapbox and tear down any of these passionate and dedicated players for doing what your own kid cannot. You shouldn't even utter you "BB" kids rights as a local player in the same breath as some of these (not all) NRP players.
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Seriously, WHAT?!?! blah blah blah blah blah
Crazy hockey mom, post it to facebook! Oh wait, we deleted facebook, nevermind!
No one buys you're BS, YOU are the problem, but good riddance to ya!
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Guest1 wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:34 am This may not be a popular opinion but it is fact. I am not singling out any player, team or organization with this post.

Many years ago a city had 3 rep teams....A, AA, AAA. There was not 3 tiers of AA, 6 single A, friggen BB teams.... Blue, White, Fuchsia etc....If a player was not good enough for AAA...he went down to AA...or A. If he still did not have the skill he played House League and maybe joined a select team. Those were the days that rep teams were the best of the best. If a kid wanted to be part of that exclusive group they had to work their ass off to get there....Period! Now with the millennial mentality that every kid has to get a medal or has the right to play rep the whole world...not just the hockey has gone to shit! So stop crying about a kids mental health...its called life. Adversity and challenges actually teaches the children to set goals, do better, work harder to achieve their goals.

Nowadays anyone's kid can get on a team if the parents either pay enough money, stir up enough shit or play politics with the organization. Hell they even create new teams just to appease the parents so the kid can wear the logo on the chest.

So we are left with what we have now...entitled parents with more money than brains, lazy entitled kids with no work ethic or realistic expectations and organizations that will do anything to get these parents to pay thousands of dollars a year to make their program look better.

The sad fact is that the entire Hockey system is broken. It is diluted. Every young hockey players dream is to make it to the NHL, and the dream is such a small percentage of reality that simple statistics would prove that only a small handful of the best even have a shot at cracking any type of draft. If your kid isn't a "Lights Out Stud", top 3-5 player on a AAA team that is ranked in the top 10 teams, by the time he is 14 years old then it is likely he will age out...NO scholarship to a NCAA school, NO OHL, definitely NO NHL. So you might as well enjoy it for what it is...a game we all love, played by our kids.

NRP players are not taking spots away from local kids. If local players want to crack a AAA squad then they have to EARN IT! They have to put in the work to ensure that some import doesn't take the spot they want. You shouldn't be automatically given a spot on an elite AAA team because of your postal code. If there is a spot available on a team and it comes down to an import and a local player of equal skill level, you better believe the local kid will get that spot 9 times out of 10.

NRP players are often players who are among the best on their local team. They move from their home centre for better training, coaching and to play with players of better skill, because their own city has diluted their system so much that their own so called "AAA" team is made up of players who at best would be a AA. Grandfathering NRP players is the right thing to do. Having their own local city centre hold them hostage is wrong. Making them play for a team that will hold it against them for leaving in the first place and cannot offer the elite program that they left in the first place to join is ridiculous. Want to talk about kids mental health...what kind of anxiety and toxic environment will that produce when you force that kid into a dressing room that he left for whatever reasons he had. That is a tough situation for some adults to handle, let alone 12, 13, 14 year olds. It might even be enough for them to mentally check out of the game all together.

I have seen so many kids thrive under their new teams, they have made lifelong friendships and developed skills both on and off the ice that they had been missing from their own home centre teams. They have a goal and are working their asses off to achieve that goal....these kids are the 1%. I have equally seen kids plateau and not develop to their projected skill level, where after this years tryout season will most likely be shipped off back to their own city making room for a local player who has enough drive to TAKE that spot!

This is the hard truth....Success is not given...it's earned. This is the message I have delivered to my own son. Not once since he decided to lace up the skates have I manufactured his path to the level he is playing now. I do not play in team/organizational politics, I am not wealthy and cannot afford to send him to every single cash grab development thing that is out there. I only ever encourage his goals, applaud his successes and remind him that his failures are learning opportunities. That only he can make his dreams happen and that he has to continue to take it upon himself to do the things necessary to succeed. This is not just a message to help him succeed in hockey....THIS IS A LIFE SKILL! Something that can translate to life after hockey in his Career, family, friendships. Something all parents should be doing, instead of just buying their kid opportunities.

These elite players, my son included, have earned spots because of their hard work and dedication to their team, the sport and themselves. These are the ones that are the next generation of professionals we all watch on TV. The professionals our grandkids will see as heroes and gods...fueling them to be like that one day.

Whether you like or hate a kid personally doesn't give you the right to use your own inadequacies to sabotage their goals. Don't ever stand on your soapbox and tear down any of these passionate and dedicated players for doing what your own kid cannot. You shouldn't even utter you "BB" kids rights as a local player in the same breath as some of these (not all) NRP players.
What, pray tell, were you hoping to accomplish with this screed?
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