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Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:58 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:29 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:47 pm Your math is questionable and has a lot of maybe thrown in. OHL scouts only coming up twice a year, not from the ones I have been in contact with. You even admit that a little bit more scouting may allow them to get drafted up a round or two. What's the difference? They'll get invited to OHL camp and their draft round means nothing, perform and earn your spot on the team.

You said 4 tournaments away, no chance, 6 or 7 easy. At $1000 per, costs are sky high.

Remember, legacy AAA enables players to look better than they are.

So remember, the GTA plays by different rules with their player movement. They stack 4-5 teams each year, sure they have success, but that's easy in that format. Teams that stacked hide weak players, and make points easy to come by for top players. Not a good way of assessing their true talent. The GTHL produces more OHL players out of volume. HEO should look at what is important to them. Compwtimg with the GTHL, or providing the best environment for local players to reach their potential. Player development should be a much higher priority than all this chest thumping over league/player control.

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Great job of missing all the key information because your mind is closed. All the best in the future trying to learn something from someone trying to enlighten you. My hope is your player is more open minded than you and is willing to listen to his coach and change to improve.

All the KEY information you mean like your "what if's" that you put out there. Things such as IF HEO owns the ice vs. IF the CCHL owns the ice. That is how you taught me? How about your "maybe 2 times a year" that FACT of yours is supposed to teach me what OHL GM's do for the Ottawa region? Based on a "maybe?!?!?!" Your arrival at being seen 15 times, had a "magical" mathematical formula to!! WOW! You all of a sudden declared that 4 away tournaments(If I would guess, 6 minimum), would automatically mean a GUARANTEED 4 looks by an OHL GM! Heck your "what if" and "maybe" math forgot that that are MANY more than just ONE OHL GM, and that ALL of them would be there, so muitiply your 4 times by 20-that's 80 looks on your kid by a REAL OHL GM, just in away tournaments! YOU taught me something champ?!!?

Open minded, LOL, it's not rocket science that playing a tournament in Toronto will help with small windows of exposure. EVERY weekend though, the previous HEO U18AAA format provided equally easy exposure ALL SEASON.

How about you teach me about WHY GTHL teams wanted to stop HEO from sending 2 allstar teams to their OHL cup tournament, you now, for all those OHL GM eyes to see them? That took care of all your exposure needs.

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:17 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:20 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 8:47 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:57 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:10 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:15 pm

Haha tell us you're an 07 dad without telling us that you're an 07 dad. Do you look at yourself in the mirror and say this every day?

Name any 06 in AA that should be swimming in this watered down CCHL U18AAA cash grab. There are none.

How about 05's. Nobody is naming anyone here champ.

Heck, depending on the year, the numbers per age group could change. The point is this, don't put a limit or minimum on number of players per age group, and take the best players. Yes there are a few 07's that don't belong.

05s hahaha. Not one 07 among the top 6 teams that bumped a more skilled 06 or 05. Look at the APs in the bottom 6, you may have a point. Many examples of 07 AA kids that don’t belong…favours to buddies of theirs, another example of how the CCHL f’d it up.

Final two teams had 11 and 9 07s, not one 05…how does that work? Must be a conspiracy. Maybe the favourites threw the series.

That’s what you get when each club has an ‘owner,’ and no oversight. It’s a free for all. Those that did it right got rewarded with better results and played a month longer or more.

Great if you believe that you would have no problem having 07's earn their spot on merit.

Good luck champ.

Words from someone who’s kid didn’t make the team. I get it now. Any organization deciding between a younger or older player for final spots will always take the younger player to develop.

It’s the end of the road for any 05s at U18AAA. Think about it; options were MajJr, JrA, or JrB. Why come down to U18AAA?

Merit will be judged depending where little Johnny lands. Makes the team, he earned it. Gets cut, he was robbed. That’s life, Champ!

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:52 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:58 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:29 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:47 pm Your math is questionable and has a lot of maybe thrown in. OHL scouts only coming up twice a year, not from the ones I have been in contact with. You even admit that a little bit more scouting may allow them to get drafted up a round or two. What's the difference? They'll get invited to OHL camp and their draft round means nothing, perform and earn your spot on the team.

You said 4 tournaments away, no chance, 6 or 7 easy. At $1000 per, costs are sky high.

Remember, legacy AAA enables players to look better than they are.

So remember, the GTA plays by different rules with their player movement. They stack 4-5 teams each year, sure they have success, but that's easy in that format. Teams that stacked hide weak players, and make points easy to come by for top players. Not a good way of assessing their true talent. The GTHL produces more OHL players out of volume. HEO should look at what is important to them. Compwtimg with the GTHL, or providing the best environment for local players to reach their potential. Player development should be a much higher priority than all this chest thumping over league/player control.

.

Great job of missing all the key information because your mind is closed. All the best in the future trying to learn something from someone trying to enlighten you. My hope is your player is more open minded than you and is willing to listen to his coach and change to improve.

All the KEY information you mean like your "what if's" that you put out there. Things such as IF HEO owns the ice vs. IF the CCHL owns the ice. That is how you taught me? How about your "maybe 2 times a year" that FACT of yours is supposed to teach me what OHL GM's do for the Ottawa region? Based on a "maybe?!?!?!" Your arrival at being seen 15 times, had a "magical" mathematical formula to!! WOW! You all of a sudden declared that 4 away tournaments(If I would guess, 6 minimum), would automatically mean a GUARANTEED 4 looks by an OHL GM! Heck your "what if" and "maybe" math forgot that that are MANY more than just ONE OHL GM, and that ALL of them would be there, so muitiply your 4 times by 20-that's 80 looks on your kid by a REAL OHL GM, just in away tournaments! YOU taught me something champ?!!?

Open minded, LOL, it's not rocket science that playing a tournament in Toronto will help with small windows of exposure. EVERY weekend though, the previous HEO U18AAA format provided equally easy exposure ALL SEASON.

How about you teach me about WHY GTHL teams wanted to stop HEO from sending 2 allstar teams to their OHL cup tournament, you now, for all those OHL GM eyes to see them? That took care of all your exposure needs.

No CCHL run U18 next year. Find something else to fixate on.

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:58 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:29 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:47 pm Your math is questionable and has a lot of maybe thrown in. OHL scouts only coming up twice a year, not from the ones I have been in contact with. You even admit that a little bit more scouting may allow them to get drafted up a round or two. What's the difference? They'll get invited to OHL camp and their draft round means nothing, perform and earn your spot on the team.

You said 4 tournaments away, no chance, 6 or 7 easy. At $1000 per, costs are sky high.

Remember, legacy AAA enables players to look better than they are.

So remember, the GTA plays by different rules with their player movement. They stack 4-5 teams each year, sure they have success, but that's easy in that format. Teams that stacked hide weak players, and make points easy to come by for top players. Not a good way of assessing their true talent. The GTHL produces more OHL players out of volume. HEO should look at what is important to them. Compwtimg with the GTHL, or providing the best environment for local players to reach their potential. Player development should be a much higher priority than all this chest thumping over league/player control.

.

Great job of missing all the key information because your mind is closed. All the best in the future trying to learn something from someone trying to enlighten you. My hope is your player is more open minded than you and is willing to listen to his coach and change to improve.

All the KEY information you mean like your "what if's" that you put out there. Things such as IF HEO owns the ice vs. IF the CCHL owns the ice. That is how you taught me? How about your "maybe 2 times a year" that FACT of yours is supposed to teach me what OHL GM's do for the Ottawa region? Based on a "maybe?!?!?!" Your arrival at being seen 15 times, had a "magical" mathematical formula to!! WOW! You all of a sudden declared that 4 away tournaments(If I would guess, 6 minimum), would automatically mean a GUARANTEED 4 looks by an OHL GM! Heck your "what if" and "maybe" math forgot that that are MANY more than just ONE OHL GM, and that ALL of them would be there, so muitiply your 4 times by 20-that's 80 looks on your kid by a REAL OHL GM, just in away tournaments! YOU taught me something champ?!!?

Open minded, LOL, it's not rocket science that playing a tournament in Toronto will help with small windows of exposure. EVERY weekend though, the previous HEO U18AAA format provided equally easy exposure ALL SEASON.

How about you teach me about WHY GTHL teams wanted to stop HEO from sending 2 allstar teams to their OHL cup tournament, you now, for all those OHL GM eyes to see them? That took care of all your exposure needs.

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:43 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:58 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:29 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:47 pm Your math is questionable and has a lot of maybe thrown in. OHL scouts only coming up twice a year, not from the ones I have been in contact with. You even admit that a little bit more scouting may allow them to get drafted up a round or two. What's the difference? They'll get invited to OHL camp and their draft round means nothing, perform and earn your spot on the team.

You said 4 tournaments away, no chance, 6 or 7 easy. At $1000 per, costs are sky high.

Remember, legacy AAA enables players to look better than they are.

So remember, the GTA plays by different rules with their player movement. They stack 4-5 teams each year, sure they have success, but that's easy in that format. Teams that stacked hide weak players, and make points easy to come by for top players. Not a good way of assessing their true talent. The GTHL produces more OHL players out of volume. HEO should look at what is important to them. Compwtimg with the GTHL, or providing the best environment for local players to reach their potential. Player development should be a much higher priority than all this chest thumping over league/player control.

.

Great job of missing all the key information because your mind is closed. All the best in the future trying to learn something from someone trying to enlighten you. My hope is your player is more open minded than you and is willing to listen to his coach and change to improve.

All the KEY information you mean like your "what if's" that you put out there. Things such as IF HEO owns the ice vs. IF the CCHL owns the ice. That is how you taught me? How about your "maybe 2 times a year" that FACT of yours is supposed to teach me what OHL GM's do for the Ottawa region? Based on a "maybe?!?!?!" Your arrival at being seen 15 times, had a "magical" mathematical formula to!! WOW! You all of a sudden declared that 4 away tournaments(If I would guess, 6 minimum), would automatically mean a GUARANTEED 4 looks by an OHL GM! Heck your "what if" and "maybe" math forgot that that are MANY more than just ONE OHL GM, and that ALL of them would be there, so muitiply your 4 times by 20-that's 80 looks on your kid by a REAL OHL GM, just in away tournaments! YOU taught me something champ?!!?

Open minded, LOL, it's not rocket science that playing a tournament in Toronto will help with small windows of exposure. EVERY weekend though, the previous HEO U18AAA format provided equally easy exposure ALL SEASON.

How about you teach me about WHY GTHL teams wanted to stop HEO from sending 2 allstar teams to their OHL cup tournament, you now, for all those OHL GM eyes to see them? That took care of all your exposure needs.

Sure.
The CCHL put 2 2003 DOB teams together to play in tournaments. The way they did it violated Hockey Canada rules. They released those players from U18 and resigned them to the two all-star teams. Those players were then affiliated back to their U18 team and continued to play U18, most played over the allotted amount of affiliation games aloud under Hockey Canada rules. Hockey Canada had to suspend members of the Pembroke team at the Ontario regionals. Hockey Canada put an end to this idea/plan.

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:05 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:43 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:58 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:29 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:47 pm Your math is questionable and has a lot of maybe thrown in. OHL scouts only coming up twice a year, not from the ones I have been in contact with. You even admit that a little bit more scouting may allow them to get drafted up a round or two. What's the difference? They'll get invited to OHL camp and their draft round means nothing, perform and earn your spot on the team.

You said 4 tournaments away, no chance, 6 or 7 easy. At $1000 per, costs are sky high.

Remember, legacy AAA enables players to look better than they are.

So remember, the GTA plays by different rules with their player movement. They stack 4-5 teams each year, sure they have success, but that's easy in that format. Teams that stacked hide weak players, and make points easy to come by for top players. Not a good way of assessing their true talent. The GTHL produces more OHL players out of volume. HEO should look at what is important to them. Compwtimg with the GTHL, or providing the best environment for local players to reach their potential. Player development should be a much higher priority than all this chest thumping over league/player control.

.

Great job of missing all the key information because your mind is closed. All the best in the future trying to learn something from someone trying to enlighten you. My hope is your player is more open minded than you and is willing to listen to his coach and change to improve.

All the KEY information you mean like your "what if's" that you put out there. Things such as IF HEO owns the ice vs. IF the CCHL owns the ice. That is how you taught me? How about your "maybe 2 times a year" that FACT of yours is supposed to teach me what OHL GM's do for the Ottawa region? Based on a "maybe?!?!?!" Your arrival at being seen 15 times, had a "magical" mathematical formula to!! WOW! You all of a sudden declared that 4 away tournaments(If I would guess, 6 minimum), would automatically mean a GUARANTEED 4 looks by an OHL GM! Heck your "what if" and "maybe" math forgot that that are MANY more than just ONE OHL GM, and that ALL of them would be there, so muitiply your 4 times by 20-that's 80 looks on your kid by a REAL OHL GM, just in away tournaments! YOU taught me something champ?!!?

Open minded, LOL, it's not rocket science that playing a tournament in Toronto will help with small windows of exposure. EVERY weekend though, the previous HEO U18AAA format provided equally easy exposure ALL SEASON.

How about you teach me about WHY GTHL teams wanted to stop HEO from sending 2 allstar teams to their OHL cup tournament, you now, for all those OHL GM eyes to see them? That took care of all your exposure needs.

Sure.
The CCHL put 2 2003 DOB teams together to play in tournaments. The way they did it violated Hockey Canada rules. They released those players from U18 and resigned them to the two all-star teams. Those players were then affiliated back to their U18 team and continued to play U18, most played over the allotted amount of affiliation games aloud under Hockey Canada rules. Hockey Canada had to suspend members of the Pembroke team at the Ontario regionals. Hockey Canada put an end to this idea/plan.

The 2 teams were sanctioned by HEO not CCHL. Seems like HEO did not know rules.

OHL Cup could have stiill accepted HEO teams formed same as NOHA team, comprised of players who had completed thier season. Rule is players on select teams can not compete in National and Regional Championships, thus they could have accepted teams in OHL Cup of 07s from every team except Kemptville. The OHL/GTHL just chose not to.

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:52 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:58 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:29 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:47 pm Your math is questionable and has a lot of maybe thrown in. OHL scouts only coming up twice a year, not from the ones I have been in contact with. You even admit that a little bit more scouting may allow them to get drafted up a round or two. What's the difference? They'll get invited to OHL camp and their draft round means nothing, perform and earn your spot on the team.

You said 4 tournaments away, no chance, 6 or 7 easy. At $1000 per, costs are sky high.

Remember, legacy AAA enables players to look better than they are.

So remember, the GTA plays by different rules with their player movement. They stack 4-5 teams each year, sure they have success, but that's easy in that format. Teams that stacked hide weak players, and make points easy to come by for top players. Not a good way of assessing their true talent. The GTHL produces more OHL players out of volume. HEO should look at what is important to them. Compwtimg with the GTHL, or providing the best environment for local players to reach their potential. Player development should be a much higher priority than all this chest thumping over league/player control.

.

Great job of missing all the key information because your mind is closed. All the best in the future trying to learn something from someone trying to enlighten you. My hope is your player is more open minded than you and is willing to listen to his coach and change to improve.

All the KEY information you mean like your "what if's" that you put out there. Things such as IF HEO owns the ice vs. IF the CCHL owns the ice. That is how you taught me? How about your "maybe 2 times a year" that FACT of yours is supposed to teach me what OHL GM's do for the Ottawa region? Based on a "maybe?!?!?!" Your arrival at being seen 15 times, had a "magical" mathematical formula to!! WOW! You all of a sudden declared that 4 away tournaments(If I would guess, 6 minimum), would automatically mean a GUARANTEED 4 looks by an OHL GM! Heck your "what if" and "maybe" math forgot that that are MANY more than just ONE OHL GM, and that ALL of them would be there, so muitiply your 4 times by 20-that's 80 looks on your kid by a REAL OHL GM, just in away tournaments! YOU taught me something champ?!!?

Open minded, LOL, it's not rocket science that playing a tournament in Toronto will help with small windows of exposure. EVERY weekend though, the previous HEO U18AAA format provided equally easy exposure ALL SEASON.

How about you teach me about WHY GTHL teams wanted to stop HEO from sending 2 allstar teams to their OHL cup tournament, you now, for all those OHL GM eyes to see them? That took care of all your exposure needs.

No CCHL run U18 next year. Find something else to fixate on.

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:05 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:43 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:58 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:29 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:47 pm Your math is questionable and has a lot of maybe thrown in. OHL scouts only coming up twice a year, not from the ones I have been in contact with. You even admit that a little bit more scouting may allow them to get drafted up a round or two. What's the difference? They'll get invited to OHL camp and their draft round means nothing, perform and earn your spot on the team.

You said 4 tournaments away, no chance, 6 or 7 easy. At $1000 per, costs are sky high.

Remember, legacy AAA enables players to look better than they are.

So remember, the GTA plays by different rules with their player movement. They stack 4-5 teams each year, sure they have success, but that's easy in that format. Teams that stacked hide weak players, and make points easy to come by for top players. Not a good way of assessing their true talent. The GTHL produces more OHL players out of volume. HEO should look at what is important to them. Compwtimg with the GTHL, or providing the best environment for local players to reach their potential. Player development should be a much higher priority than all this chest thumping over league/player control.

.

Great job of missing all the key information because your mind is closed. All the best in the future trying to learn something from someone trying to enlighten you. My hope is your player is more open minded than you and is willing to listen to his coach and change to improve.

All the KEY information you mean like your "what if's" that you put out there. Things such as IF HEO owns the ice vs. IF the CCHL owns the ice. That is how you taught me? How about your "maybe 2 times a year" that FACT of yours is supposed to teach me what OHL GM's do for the Ottawa region? Based on a "maybe?!?!?!" Your arrival at being seen 15 times, had a "magical" mathematical formula to!! WOW! You all of a sudden declared that 4 away tournaments(If I would guess, 6 minimum), would automatically mean a GUARANTEED 4 looks by an OHL GM! Heck your "what if" and "maybe" math forgot that that are MANY more than just ONE OHL GM, and that ALL of them would be there, so muitiply your 4 times by 20-that's 80 looks on your kid by a REAL OHL GM, just in away tournaments! YOU taught me something champ?!!?

Open minded, LOL, it's not rocket science that playing a tournament in Toronto will help with small windows of exposure. EVERY weekend though, the previous HEO U18AAA format provided equally easy exposure ALL SEASON.

How about you teach me about WHY GTHL teams wanted to stop HEO from sending 2 allstar teams to their OHL cup tournament, you now, for all those OHL GM eyes to see them? That took care of all your exposure needs.

Sure.
The CCHL put 2 2003 DOB teams together to play in tournaments. The way they did it violated Hockey Canada rules. They released those players from U18 and resigned them to the two all-star teams. Those players were then affiliated back to their U18 team and continued to play U18, most played over the allotted amount of affiliation games aloud under Hockey Canada rules. Hockey Canada had to suspend members of the Pembroke team at the Ontario regionals. Hockey Canada put an end to this idea/plan.

The 2 teams were sanctioned by HEO not CCHL. Seems like HEO did not know rules.

OHL Cup could have stiill accepted HEO teams formed same as NOHA team, comprised of players who had completed thier season. Rule is players on select teams can not compete in National and Regional Championships, thus they could have accepted teams in OHL Cup of 07s from every team except Kemptville. The OHL/GTHL just chose not to.