2012 GTHL 'A' DIVISION

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Guest wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:11 pm Looks like a goon hit and suspension deserved. Under 3 seconds left in the game, 2 goal lead, the defensive player freezes the puck and just stands there to let time expire. No hockey value in the hit and it's not a legal hit.
I obviously can't get into the mind of an 11 yr old kid but that hit has to be called every time - it's on the attacking player to control themselves. And it's on the refs to call it so there isn't a brawl.
So what was the call...

HFB Major?
HFB Minor?
Boarding Minor?
Body Checking Minor?
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Not agree or disagree with anything, it’s over, but I knew I couldn’t get an answer without a strawman in it. Good luck to all.
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Guest wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:47 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:11 pm Looks like a goon hit and suspension deserved. Under 3 seconds left in the game, 2 goal lead, the defensive player freezes the puck and just stands there to let time expire. No hockey value in the hit and it's not a legal hit.
I obviously can't get into the mind of an 11 yr old kid but that hit has to be called every time - it's on the attacking player to control themselves. And it's on the refs to call it so there isn't a brawl.
So what was the call...

HFB Major?
HFB Minor?
Boarding Minor?
Body Checking Minor?
Good question. Was escorted off ice and by commentary here has a suspension. I’d guess a game misconduct for something to the effect of boarding with a 3 game penalty that comes with it?
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Guest wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:07 am
Guest wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:47 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:11 pm Looks like a goon hit and suspension deserved. Under 3 seconds left in the game, 2 goal lead, the defensive player freezes the puck and just stands there to let time expire. No hockey value in the hit and it's not a legal hit.
I obviously can't get into the mind of an 11 yr old kid but that hit has to be called every time - it's on the attacking player to control themselves. And it's on the refs to call it so there isn't a brawl.
So what was the call...

HFB Major?
HFB Minor?
Boarding Minor?
Body Checking Minor?
Good question. Was escorted off ice and by commentary here has a suspension. I’d guess a game misconduct for something to the effect of boarding with a 3 game penalty that comes with it?
And yet both boys spotted at a skate...ironically playing together
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Guest wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:07 am
Guest wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:47 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:11 pm Looks like a goon hit and suspension deserved. Under 3 seconds left in the game, 2 goal lead, the defensive player freezes the puck and just stands there to let time expire. No hockey value in the hit and it's not a legal hit.
I obviously can't get into the mind of an 11 yr old kid but that hit has to be called every time - it's on the attacking player to control themselves. And it's on the refs to call it so there isn't a brawl.
So what was the call...

HFB Major?
HFB Minor?
Boarding Minor?
Body Checking Minor?
Good question. Was escorted off ice and by commentary here has a suspension. I’d guess a game misconduct for something to the effect of boarding with a 3 game penalty that comes with it?
I’m not a parent of either team but looked at LiveBarn out of curiosity. Kid was against the boards with the puck and the other other came in and didn’t really stop. Only looks worse than it was because the boy against the boards fell down. He got right back up. The kid wasn’t going particularly fast at him, seems more like she didn’t know how to stop.
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Guest wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:52 am
Guest wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:07 am
Guest wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:47 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:11 pm Looks like a goon hit and suspension deserved. Under 3 seconds left in the game, 2 goal lead, the defensive player freezes the puck and just stands there to let time expire. No hockey value in the hit and it's not a legal hit.
I obviously can't get into the mind of an 11 yr old kid but that hit has to be called every time - it's on the attacking player to control themselves. And it's on the refs to call it so there isn't a brawl.
So what was the call...

HFB Major?
HFB Minor?
Boarding Minor?
Body Checking Minor?
Good question. Was escorted off ice and by commentary here has a suspension. I’d guess a game misconduct for something to the effect of boarding with a 3 game penalty that comes with it?
I’m not a parent of either team but looked at LiveBarn out of curiosity. Kid was against the boards with the puck and the other other came in and didn’t really stop. Only looks worse than it was because the boy against the boards fell down. He got right back up. The kid wasn’t going particularly fast at him, seems more like she didn’t know how to stop.
Sounds like boarding minor, no game. A rookie ref might call HFB minor, which would be automatic 1 game, regardless of how minor the contact.

To the parents who think it was anything more than an incidental bump...you might want to re-calibrate your expectations. The likelihood of an 11 year old taking a healthy run at another kid, to drive him face first into the boards is nil. The lesson here is to teach kids to be prepared for some form of incidental contact along the boards (legal or not) and how to protect themselves in these situations.
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Guest wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:46 am
Guest wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:52 am
Guest wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:07 am
Guest wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:47 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:11 pm Looks like a goon hit and suspension deserved. Under 3 seconds left in the game, 2 goal lead, the defensive player freezes the puck and just stands there to let time expire. No hockey value in the hit and it's Jim not a legal hit.
I obviously can't get into the mind of an 11 yr old kid but that hit has to be called every time - it's on the attacking player to control themselves. And it's on the refs to call it so there isn't a brawl.
So what was the call...

HFB Major?
HFB Minor?
Boarding Minor?
Body Checking Minor?
Good question. Was escorted off ice and by commentary here has a suspension. I’d guess a game misconduct for something to the effect of boarding with a 3 game penalty that comes with it?
I’m not a parent of either team but looked at LiveBarn out of curiosity. Kid was against the boards with the puck and the other other came in and didn’t really stop. Only looks worse than it was because the boy against the boards fell down. He got right back up. The kid wasn’t going particularly fast at him, seems more like she didn’t know how to stop.
Sounds like boarding minor, no game. A rookie ref might call HFB minor, which would be automatic 1 game, regardless of how minor the contact.

To the parents who think it was anything more than an incidental bump...you might want to re-calibrate your expectations. The likelihood of an 11 year old taking a healthy run at another kid, to drive him face first into the boards is nil. The lesson here is to teach kids to be prepared for some form of incidental contact along the boards (legal or not) and how to protect themselves in these situations.
The hit from behind minor that was called will result in 1 game suspension. The Knight player was actually in the proper body position against the boards flat, clearly not expecting someone to hit him from behind when there is less than 5 seconds left on the clock and the opposing team is down by two goals. One game is sufficient I guess unless the player has a past reputation of illegal hits such as this one. Remember these kids are in A and won’t be body checking.
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For the most part this thread has been surprisingly positive, however after the display we saw from the Aeros parents we saw this morning it can’t be left unsaid. They are a complete embarrassment to minor hockey, screaming and swearing at the referees all game long. Not to mention when an Islanders player was body checked against the board and hitting his head Aeros parents were booing the referee’s. It’s one thing if you don’t agree with previous call but an 11 year old child was laying on the ground hurt and all you can hear is Aeros faithful belligerently screaming. What a disgrace. Thank god we don’t have to see this team again this season.
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Guest wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:16 am
Guest wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:46 am
Guest wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:52 am
Guest wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:07 am
Guest wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:47 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:11 pm Looks like a goon hit and suspension deserved. Under 3 seconds left in the game, 2 goal lead, the defensive player freezes the puck and just stands there to let time expire. No hockey value in the hit and it's Jim not a legal hit.
I obviously can't get into the mind of an 11 yr old kid but that hit has to be called every time - it's on the attacking player to control themselves. And it's on the refs to call it so there isn't a brawl.
So what was the call...

HFB Major?
HFB Minor?
Boarding Minor?
Body Checking Minor?
Good question. Was escorted off ice and by commentary here has a suspension. I’d guess a game misconduct for something to the effect of boarding with a 3 game penalty that comes with it?
I’m not a parent of either team but looked at LiveBarn out of curiosity. Kid was against the boards with the puck and the other other came in and didn’t really stop. Only looks worse than it was because the boy against the boards fell down. He got right back up. The kid wasn’t going particularly fast at him, seems more like she didn’t know how to stop.
Sounds like boarding minor, no game. A rookie ref might call HFB minor, which would be automatic 1 game, regardless of how minor the contact.

To the parents who think it was anything more than an incidental bump...you might want to re-calibrate your expectations. The likelihood of an 11 year old taking a healthy run at another kid, to drive him face first into the boards is nil. The lesson here is to teach kids to be prepared for some form of incidental contact along the boards (legal or not) and how to protect themselves in these situations.
The hit from behind minor that was called will result in 1 game suspension. The Knight player was actually in the proper body position against the boards flat, clearly not expecting someone to hit him from behind when there is less than 5 seconds left on the clock and the opposing team is down by two goals. One game is sufficient I guess unless the player has a past reputation of illegal hits such as this one. Remember these kids are in A and won’t be body checking.
10:46 am here

Yup, your reminder of it being single A, no body checking sounds like a justification for kids not to concern themselves with what might happen along the boards. It's the exact mindset that I am referring to. I mean no disrespect, but I suspect that the NYK kid has the same mindset was not prepared to protect himself.

Go to a U18AAA game, and watch how undersized players protect the puck and themselves along the boards. Pressure or no pressure, they do this habitually. These same kids will continue protecting themselves when they move onto non-contact Intramural or beer league. There's no reason any single A kid shouldn't learn to play the same way.

HFB minor sounds like the correct call.
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Guest wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:28 pm For the most part this thread has been surprisingly positive, however after the display we saw from the Aeros parents we saw this morning it can’t be left unsaid. They are a complete embarrassment to minor hockey, screaming and swearing at the referees all game long. Not to mention when an Islanders player was body checked against the board and hitting his head Aeros parents were booing the referee’s. It’s one thing if you don’t agree with previous call but an 11 year old child was laying on the ground hurt and all you can hear is Aeros faithful belligerently screaming. What a disgrace. Thank god we don’t have to see this team again this season.
Perhaps they thought the MI kid was embellishing, to sell it.

Did the MI kid leave the game? Was there a penalty on the play? 2 minutes for pushing? :lol:
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