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Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:35 am The Greater Toronto Hockey League (GTHL) is known for fostering competitive youth hockey talent. However, recent events surrounding the U13AAA Mississauga Reps team highlight some glaring issues within the league.

Reports have surfaced of the Mississauga Reps holding over 20 illegal birthday skates, a blatant violation of league rules. Additionally, coaches have been accused of sending messages to players during the season, attempting to lure them onto the team, thus violating tampering regulations.

What's more concerning is the exploitation of hopeful young players and their families. With 30-40 skaters and 6 goalies attending each session, all paying $60 per skate, the coaches stand to make tens of thousands of dollars. The promise of roster selection keeps players and parents coming back, despite false assurances and unrealistic expectations.

One parent, with extensive hockey experience, shared their firsthand account of the chaotic tryout process. Their child, a mid-level AA player, attended a skate to gauge the jump to low AAA. Despite receiving vague feedback from the coach, they were continually invited back, leaving them questioning the motives behind the seemingly endless tryout cycle.

It's evident that the current system allows for profit-driven practices at the expense of player development and integrity. The GTHL's lack of intervention only perpetuates this cycle of exploitation.
Development skates are just that, they are advertised not in it only. Once you invite a player, your motives have changed.

This is nothing new. Every team in the league does this, to varying degrees. If it’s such a turn off then I’d suggest putting your kids in cricket.

It's this kind of mentality that foster the dysfunction in the first place.

You cannot blame teams or coaches. They’re all trying to improve their group. Move tryout to August and you’d cut off a lot of this stuff. Many parents are playing the system as well. Parents commit to a team and then de commit. AA kids commit to a AA team and hope they make a AAA team. Other families posturing to see if they can get more ice time, a letter on a jersey, PP time etc. For many of the coaches it’s a full time job and holding skates is where they make money. These skates provide opportunities for some kids to skate with other kids. Parents should use them to gather information, to understand where their kid is at in the development process and whether or not they deserve to play on said team.

While I can understand someone posting this stuff, it only shows that your kid isn’t a top player and probably a bubble kid. You’re bitching because the system doesn’t work for you or someone upset you.

I don’t like the system much either but I read the original post as someone trying to cause shit. Most likely a liberal voter who believes in hand outs and equal play time.

It’s competitive sports and it’s all AAA. It’s not A or house league. It’s not about equal or same.

Do I like the system, no. But I also dislike your post. You’re a big Karen for posting it and for whining.

Find a team, culture, and coach that you like. No one is forcing you to play for the reps or forcing you to go to the skate. So really you’re just being an idiot for posting this shit.

I'm sorry but this is a parent and a coach problem. Above talks to the coach issues but if I point the finger back at you parents, if you are trying so hard to get on the reps, then you don't belong in AAA. Reps are the worst org out there filled with maybe 2 AAA kids and the rest high level AA kids. Don't force your kid into AAA unless a coach really wants them and you will know of they want them....you won't need to call them. Sorry to tell you but you as a parent are helping create this issue.

Every coach in Ontario will have these skates. Normally there might be 1 or 2 spots and they will have 10 skates with 40 kids at $60 bucks each. It’s about $25 grand for a few weeks work. And mostly cash.
This is what coaches think about now not their team or the kids. Unfortunately the rest of society is the same these days.
Money is more important than people.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:24 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:16 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:59 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:05 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:35 am The Greater Toronto Hockey League (GTHL) is known for fostering competitive youth hockey talent. However, recent events surrounding the U13AAA Mississauga Reps team highlight some glaring issues within the league.

Reports have surfaced of the Mississauga Reps holding over 20 illegal birthday skates, a blatant violation of league rules. Additionally, coaches have been accused of sending messages to players during the season, attempting to lure them onto the team, thus violating tampering regulations.

What's more concerning is the exploitation of hopeful young players and their families. With 30-40 skaters and 6 goalies attending each session, all paying $60 per skate, the coaches stand to make tens of thousands of dollars. The promise of roster selection keeps players and parents coming back, despite false assurances and unrealistic expectations.

One parent, with extensive hockey experience, shared their firsthand account of the chaotic tryout process. Their child, a mid-level AA player, attended a skate to gauge the jump to low AAA. Despite receiving vague feedback from the coach, they were continually invited back, leaving them questioning the motives behind the seemingly endless tryout cycle.

It's evident that the current system allows for profit-driven practices at the expense of player development and integrity. The GTHL's lack of intervention only perpetuates this cycle of exploitation.
Development skates are just that, they are advertised not in it only. Once you invite a player, your motives have changed.

This is nothing new. Every team in the league does this, to varying degrees. If it’s such a turn off then I’d suggest putting your kids in cricket.

It's this kind of mentality that foster the dysfunction in the first place.

You cannot blame teams or coaches. They’re all trying to improve their group. Move tryout to August and you’d cut off a lot of this stuff. Many parents are playing the system as well. Parents commit to a team and then de commit. AA kids commit to a AA team and hope they make a AAA team. Other families posturing to see if they can get more ice time, a letter on a jersey, PP time etc. For many of the coaches it’s a full time job and holding skates is where they make money. These skates provide opportunities for some kids to skate with other kids. Parents should use them to gather information, to understand where their kid is at in the development process and whether or not they deserve to play on said team.

While I can understand someone posting this stuff, it only shows that your kid isn’t a top player and probably a bubble kid. You’re bitching because the system doesn’t work for you or someone upset you.

I don’t like the system much either but I read the original post as someone trying to cause shit. Most likely a liberal voter who believes in hand outs and equal play time.

It’s competitive sports and it’s all AAA. It’s not A or house league. It’s not about equal or same.

Do I like the system, no. But I also dislike your post. You’re a big Karen for posting it and for whining.

Find a team, culture, and coach that you like. No one is forcing you to play for the reps or forcing you to go to the skate. So really you’re just being an idiot for posting this shit.

I'm sorry but this is a parent and a coach problem. Above talks to the coach issues but if I point the finger back at you parents, if you are trying so hard to get on the reps, then you don't belong in AAA. Reps are the worst org out there filled with maybe 2 AAA kids and the rest high level AA kids. Don't force your kid into AAA unless a coach really wants them and you will know of they want them....you won't need to call them. Sorry to tell you but you as a parent are helping create this issue.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:04 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:02 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:35 am The Greater Toronto Hockey League (GTHL) is known for fostering competitive youth hockey talent. However, recent events surrounding the U13AAA Mississauga Reps team highlight some glaring issues within the league.

Reports have surfaced of the Mississauga Reps holding over 20 illegal birthday skates, a blatant violation of league rules. Additionally, coaches have been accused of sending messages to players during the season, attempting to lure them onto the team, thus violating tampering regulations.

What's more concerning is the exploitation of hopeful young players and their families. With 30-40 skaters and 6 goalies attending each session, all paying $60 per skate, the coaches stand to make tens of thousands of dollars. The promise of roster selection keeps players and parents coming back, despite false assurances and unrealistic expectations.

One parent, with extensive hockey experience, shared their firsthand account of the chaotic tryout process. Their child, a mid-level AA player, attended a skate to gauge the jump to low AAA. Despite receiving vague feedback from the coach, they were continually invited back, leaving them questioning the motives behind the seemingly endless tryout cycle.

It's evident that the current system allows for profit-driven practices at the expense of player development and integrity. The GTHL's lack of intervention only perpetuates this cycle of exploitation.
Development skates are just that, they are advertised not in it only. Once you invite a player, your motives have changed.

Reps are the worst run org in the league. All for $$$ that’s why you pay 10k plus per season… only one good team in the whole org

This is becoming more and more apparent. Heard the coach is promising players spots and then de-committing.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:35 am The Greater Toronto Hockey League (GTHL) is known for fostering competitive youth hockey talent. However, recent events surrounding the U13AAA Mississauga Reps team highlight some glaring issues within the league.

Reports have surfaced of the Mississauga Reps holding over 20 illegal birthday skates, a blatant violation of league rules. Additionally, coaches have been accused of sending messages to players during the season, attempting to lure them onto the team, thus violating tampering regulations.

What's more concerning is the exploitation of hopeful young players and their families. With 30-40 skaters and 6 goalies attending each session, all paying $60 per skate, the coaches stand to make tens of thousands of dollars. The promise of roster selection keeps players and parents coming back, despite false assurances and unrealistic expectations.

One parent, with extensive hockey experience, shared their firsthand account of the chaotic tryout process. Their child, a mid-level AA player, attended a skate to gauge the jump to low AAA. Despite receiving vague feedback from the coach, they were continually invited back, leaving them questioning the motives behind the seemingly endless tryout cycle.

It's evident that the current system allows for profit-driven practices at the expense of player development and integrity. The GTHL's lack of intervention only perpetuates this cycle of exploitation.
Development skates are just that, they are advertised not in it only. Once you invite a player, your motives have changed.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:48 pm Feels like the whole system is intentionally kept in the grey area. On the surface it is very easy to reform, abolish senseless yearly tryouts for example, so the coaches can decide themselves when and how to recruit new kids. move away from parent coaches in favour of professionals with relevant credentials with at least basic knowledge of subjects ranging from first aid to kids psychology and physiotherapy. That won't be cheap, but now it is not cheap either. Moreover it will provide job opportunities for retired OHL players. Make it possible for 2-3 top AA teams to get promotion to AAA and relegate bottom 2-3. So that everybody gets the chance to play on a top level. That will discourage parents to enrol their kids to teams like Reps, Titans. And owners of the above mentioned teams will have to invest into their organisations' development rather than to milk parents for AAA status.

Though I'm 100% sure that nothing will be done, as the system is corrupted to its core. Current people will retire happily and the problem will be passed to next generations until soccer will takeover and hockey will become a niche sport like tennis and Canada will start losing to Switzerland and Germany. In the next 10-20 years hockey will become irrelevant in this country.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:19 pm Bottom line is if you are complaining about a $60 skate you don't belong in AAA.