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Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:45 pm
I think part of the issue at the rep/A/MD/ maybe AA level is that a 1 hour "body checking" clinic requirement is not enough to effectively teach hitting.
Watch U14 players in year 1 of body checking with poor coaching. Kids are just trying to murder each other. In doing so they are taking themselves out of the play completing, ending up in the box, putting a target on themselves and ultimately hurting themselves or another player. I'm not suggesting to remove it, but a 1 hour clinic doesn't cut it as effective training on angling, body checking, positioning etc. Probably should be more requirement to learn it. And oh btw, sign the Rowan's Law card and then put it in the trash, great intent but coaches, players, parents don't care until they're concussed.
Yes, first year hitting is always a bit of a mess. Lack of technique and inexperience fuelled by access to the forbidden fruit are no doubt the reasons. Also, I think its a bit of a culture shock for parents.
However, not knowing when to expect a hit, as well as not knowing when and when not to throw a hit are all part of the ettiequte. It doesn't take long for players to figure out when their opponent had them and let the off them hook or went out of their way to finish a check. Once they figure out the ettiequte, things calm down because everyone knows that there are 15+ guys on the other bench who might take exception to a dirty play.
No amount of "body checking clinics" can replace in-game experience. Which is why I think contact should be part of the rep stream starting in Minor Atom. 4 years of non-contact hockey will not prepare them for first year contact at 13 years old...may as well go through the first year growing pains before puberty, when the kids are relatively the same size.
“The brains of 16- and 17-year-old hockey players are still too vulnerable,” Dr. Charles Tator said in an interview on Wednesday with TSN. “We are seeing that too many players are suffering the effects of brain trauma from permitted bodychecking, and in some cases, the symptoms can be there forever.”
Dr. Tator’s study was published Sept. 23 in the Canadian Journal of Neurological Sciences.
“There is a common misconception that introducing bodychecking at an early age can help prevent injuries such as concussion by ensuring that children are skilled in how to withstand a bodycheck, when in fact there is no data to support this,” the study said.
Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:45 pm
I think part of the issue at the rep/A/MD/ maybe AA level is that a 1 hour "body checking" clinic requirement is not enough to effectively teach hitting.
Watch U14 players in year 1 of body checking with poor coaching. Kids are just trying to murder each other. In doing so they are taking themselves out of the play completing, ending up in the box, putting a target on themselves and ultimately hurting themselves or another player. I'm not suggesting to remove it, but a 1 hour clinic doesn't cut it as effective training on angling, body checking, positioning etc. Probably should be more requirement to learn it. And oh btw, sign the Rowan's Law card and then put it in the trash, great intent but coaches, players, parents don't care until they're concussed.
Yes, first year hitting is always a bit of a mess. Lack of technique and inexperience fuelled by access to the forbidden fruit are no doubt the reasons. Also, I think its a bit of a culture shock for parents.
However, not knowing when to expect a hit, as well as not knowing when and when not to throw a hit are all part of the ettiequte. It doesn't take long for players to figure out when their opponent had them and let the off them hook or went out of their way to finish a check. Once they figure out the ettiequte, things calm down because everyone knows that there are 15+ guys on the other bench who might take exception to a dirty play.
No amount of "body checking clinics" can replace in-game experience. Which is why I think contact should be part of the rep stream starting in Minor Atom. 4 years of non-contact hockey will not prepare them for first year contact at 13 years old...may as well go through the first year growing pains before puberty, when the kids are relatively the same size.
“The brains of 16- and 17-year-old hockey players are still too vulnerable,” Dr. Charles Tator said in an interview on Wednesday with TSN. “We are seeing that too many players are suffering the effects of brain trauma from permitted bodychecking, and in some cases, the symptoms can be there forever.”
Dr. Tator’s study was published Sept. 23 in the Canadian Journal of Neurological Sciences.
“There is a common misconception that introducing bodychecking at an early age can help prevent injuries such as concussion by ensuring that children are skilled in how to withstand a bodycheck, when in fact there is no data to support this,” the study said.
The only reason there is no data to support the notion is because there have never been any studies done in regard to the topic.
Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:45 pm
I think part of the issue at the rep/A/MD/ maybe AA level is that a 1 hour "body checking" clinic requirement is not enough to effectively teach hitting.
Watch U14 players in year 1 of body checking with poor coaching. Kids are just trying to murder each other. In doing so they are taking themselves out of the play completing, ending up in the box, putting a target on themselves and ultimately hurting themselves or another player. I'm not suggesting to remove it, but a 1 hour clinic doesn't cut it as effective training on angling, body checking, positioning etc. Probably should be more requirement to learn it. And oh btw, sign the Rowan's Law card and then put it in the trash, great intent but coaches, players, parents don't care until they're concussed.
Yes, first year hitting is always a bit of a mess. Lack of technique and inexperience fuelled by access to the forbidden fruit are no doubt the reasons. Also, I think its a bit of a culture shock for parents.
However, not knowing when to expect a hit, as well as not knowing when and when not to throw a hit are all part of the ettiequte. It doesn't take long for players to figure out when their opponent had them and let the off them hook or went out of their way to finish a check. Once they figure out the ettiequte, things calm down because everyone knows that there are 15+ guys on the other bench who might take exception to a dirty play.
No amount of "body checking clinics" can replace in-game experience. Which is why I think contact should be part of the rep stream starting in Minor Atom. 4 years of non-contact hockey will not prepare them for first year contact at 13 years old...may as well go through the first year growing pains before puberty, when the kids are relatively the same size.
“The brains of 16- and 17-year-old hockey players are still too vulnerable,” Dr. Charles Tator said in an interview on Wednesday with TSN. “We are seeing that too many players are suffering the effects of brain trauma from permitted bodychecking, and in some cases, the symptoms can be there forever.”
Dr. Tator’s study was published Sept. 23 in the Canadian Journal of Neurological Sciences.
“There is a common misconception that introducing bodychecking at an early age can help prevent injuries such as concussion by ensuring that children are skilled in how to withstand a bodycheck, when in fact there is no data to support this,” the study said.
The only reason there is no data to support the notion is because there have never been any studies done in regard to the topic.
And yet you’re so certain about your views. Meanwhile there is this study and you’ve not nothing to refute it other than feelings.
Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:45 pm
I think part of the issue at the rep/A/MD/ maybe AA level is that a 1 hour "body checking" clinic requirement is not enough to effectively teach hitting.
Watch U14 players in year 1 of body checking with poor coaching. Kids are just trying to murder each other. In doing so they are taking themselves out of the play completing, ending up in the box, putting a target on themselves and ultimately hurting themselves or another player. I'm not suggesting to remove it, but a 1 hour clinic doesn't cut it as effective training on angling, body checking, positioning etc. Probably should be more requirement to learn it. And oh btw, sign the Rowan's Law card and then put it in the trash, great intent but coaches, players, parents don't care until they're concussed.
Yes, first year hitting is always a bit of a mess. Lack of technique and inexperience fuelled by access to the forbidden fruit are no doubt the reasons. Also, I think its a bit of a culture shock for parents.
However, not knowing when to expect a hit, as well as not knowing when and when not to throw a hit are all part of the ettiequte. It doesn't take long for players to figure out when their opponent had them and let the off them hook or went out of their way to finish a check. Once they figure out the ettiequte, things calm down because everyone knows that there are 15+ guys on the other bench who might take exception to a dirty play.
No amount of "body checking clinics" can replace in-game experience. Which is why I think contact should be part of the rep stream starting in Minor Atom. 4 years of non-contact hockey will not prepare them for first year contact at 13 years old...may as well go through the first year growing pains before puberty, when the kids are relatively the same size.
“The brains of 16- and 17-year-old hockey players are still too vulnerable,” Dr. Charles Tator said in an interview on Wednesday with TSN. “We are seeing that too many players are suffering the effects of brain trauma from permitted bodychecking, and in some cases, the symptoms can be there forever.”
Dr. Tator’s study was published Sept. 23 in the Canadian Journal of Neurological Sciences.
“There is a common misconception that introducing bodychecking at an early age can help prevent injuries such as concussion by ensuring that children are skilled in how to withstand a bodycheck, when in fact there is no data to support this,” the study said.
The only reason there is no data to support the notion is because there have never been any studies done in regard to the topic.
And yet you’re so certain about your views. Meanwhile there is this study and you’ve not nothing to refute it other than feelings.
Nothing like that at all. Just pointing out that the comment "there is no data to support this" is not as valid as some believe or pronounce.
But lets be honest, practice is provided to help improve. Practice at anything makes you better. And it is also understood that begining things at earlier ages helps improve quicker.
Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:45 pm
I think part of the issue at the rep/A/MD/ maybe AA level is that a 1 hour "body checking" clinic requirement is not enough to effectively teach hitting.
Watch U14 players in year 1 of body checking with poor coaching. Kids are just trying to murder each other. In doing so they are taking themselves out of the play completing, ending up in the box, putting a target on themselves and ultimately hurting themselves or another player. I'm not suggesting to remove it, but a 1 hour clinic doesn't cut it as effective training on angling, body checking, positioning etc. Probably should be more requirement to learn it. And oh btw, sign the Rowan's Law card and then put it in the trash, great intent but coaches, players, parents don't care until they're concussed.
Yes, first year hitting is always a bit of a mess. Lack of technique and inexperience fuelled by access to the forbidden fruit are no doubt the reasons. Also, I think its a bit of a culture shock for parents.
However, not knowing when to expect a hit, as well as not knowing when and when not to throw a hit are all part of the ettiequte. It doesn't take long for players to figure out when their opponent had them and let the off them hook or went out of their way to finish a check. Once they figure out the ettiequte, things calm down because everyone knows that there are 15+ guys on the other bench who might take exception to a dirty play.
No amount of "body checking clinics" can replace in-game experience. Which is why I think contact should be part of the rep stream starting in Minor Atom. 4 years of non-contact hockey will not prepare them for first year contact at 13 years old...may as well go through the first year growing pains before puberty, when the kids are relatively the same size.
“The brains of 16- and 17-year-old hockey players are still too vulnerable,” Dr. Charles Tator said in an interview on Wednesday with TSN. “We are seeing that too many players are suffering the effects of brain trauma from permitted bodychecking, and in some cases, the symptoms can be there forever.”
Dr. Tator’s study was published Sept. 23 in the Canadian Journal of Neurological Sciences.
“There is a common misconception that introducing bodychecking at an early age can help prevent injuries such as concussion by ensuring that children are skilled in how to withstand a bodycheck, when in fact there is no data to support this,” the study said.
The only reason there is no data to support the notion is because there have never been any studies done in regard to the topic.
And yet you’re so certain about your views. Meanwhile there is this study and you’ve not nothing to refute it other than feelings.
Nothing like that at all. Just pointing out that the comment "there is no data to support this" is not as valid as some believe or pronounce.
But lets be honest, practice is provided to help improve. Practice at anything makes you better. And it is also understood that begining things at earlier ages helps improve quicker.
Practice taking head shots while your brain is developing in order to get better at taking head shots.
Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:45 pm
I think part of the issue at the rep/A/MD/ maybe AA level is that a 1 hour "body checking" clinic requirement is not enough to effectively teach hitting.
Watch U14 players in year 1 of body checking with poor coaching. Kids are just trying to murder each other. In doing so they are taking themselves out of the play completing, ending up in the box, putting a target on themselves and ultimately hurting themselves or another player. I'm not suggesting to remove it, but a 1 hour clinic doesn't cut it as effective training on angling, body checking, positioning etc. Probably should be more requirement to learn it. And oh btw, sign the Rowan's Law card and then put it in the trash, great intent but coaches, players, parents don't care until they're concussed.
Yes, first year hitting is always a bit of a mess. Lack of technique and inexperience fuelled by access to the forbidden fruit are no doubt the reasons. Also, I think its a bit of a culture shock for parents.
However, not knowing when to expect a hit, as well as not knowing when and when not to throw a hit are all part of the ettiequte. It doesn't take long for players to figure out when their opponent had them and let the off them hook or went out of their way to finish a check. Once they figure out the ettiequte, things calm down because everyone knows that there are 15+ guys on the other bench who might take exception to a dirty play.
No amount of "body checking clinics" can replace in-game experience. Which is why I think contact should be part of the rep stream starting in Minor Atom. 4 years of non-contact hockey will not prepare them for first year contact at 13 years old...may as well go through the first year growing pains before puberty, when the kids are relatively the same size.
“The brains of 16- and 17-year-old hockey players are still too vulnerable,” Dr. Charles Tator said in an interview on Wednesday with TSN. “We are seeing that too many players are suffering the effects of brain trauma from permitted bodychecking, and in some cases, the symptoms can be there forever.”
Dr. Tator’s study was published Sept. 23 in the Canadian Journal of Neurological Sciences.
“There is a common misconception that introducing bodychecking at an early age can help prevent injuries such as concussion by ensuring that children are skilled in how to withstand a bodycheck, when in fact there is no data to support this,” the study said.
The only reason there is no data to support the notion is because there have never been any studies done in regard to the topic.
And yet you’re so certain about your views. Meanwhile there is this study and you’ve not nothing to refute it other than feelings.
Nothing like that at all. Just pointing out that the comment "there is no data to support this" is not as valid as some believe or pronounce.
But lets be honest, practice is provided to help improve. Practice at anything makes you better. And it is also understood that begining things at earlier ages helps improve quicker.
Practice taking head shots while your brain is developing in order to get better at taking head shots.
Not surprising that all you see is head shots as opposed to great techniques and skills involving body contact.
Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:45 pm
I think part of the issue at the rep/A/MD/ maybe AA level is that a 1 hour "body checking" clinic requirement is not enough to effectively teach hitting.
Watch U14 players in year 1 of body checking with poor coaching. Kids are just trying to murder each other. In doing so they are taking themselves out of the play completing, ending up in the box, putting a target on themselves and ultimately hurting themselves or another player. I'm not suggesting to remove it, but a 1 hour clinic doesn't cut it as effective training on angling, body checking, positioning etc. Probably should be more requirement to learn it. And oh btw, sign the Rowan's Law card and then put it in the trash, great intent but coaches, players, parents don't care until they're concussed.
Yes, first year hitting is always a bit of a mess. Lack of technique and inexperience fuelled by access to the forbidden fruit are no doubt the reasons. Also, I think its a bit of a culture shock for parents.
However, not knowing when to expect a hit, as well as not knowing when and when not to throw a hit are all part of the ettiequte. It doesn't take long for players to figure out when their opponent had them and let the off them hook or went out of their way to finish a check. Once they figure out the ettiequte, things calm down because everyone knows that there are 15+ guys on the other bench who might take exception to a dirty play.
No amount of "body checking clinics" can replace in-game experience. Which is why I think contact should be part of the rep stream starting in Minor Atom. 4 years of non-contact hockey will not prepare them for first year contact at 13 years old...may as well go through the first year growing pains before puberty, when the kids are relatively the same size.
“The brains of 16- and 17-year-old hockey players are still too vulnerable,” Dr. Charles Tator said in an interview on Wednesday with TSN. “We are seeing that too many players are suffering the effects of brain trauma from permitted bodychecking, and in some cases, the symptoms can be there forever.”
Dr. Tator’s study was published Sept. 23 in the Canadian Journal of Neurological Sciences.
“There is a common misconception that introducing bodychecking at an early age can help prevent injuries such as concussion by ensuring that children are skilled in how to withstand a bodycheck, when in fact there is no data to support this,” the study said.
The only reason there is no data to support the notion is because there have never been any studies done in regard to the topic.
And yet you’re so certain about your views. Meanwhile there is this study and you’ve not nothing to refute it other than feelings.
Nothing like that at all. Just pointing out that the comment "there is no data to support this" is not as valid as some believe or pronounce.
But lets be honest, practice is provided to help improve. Practice at anything makes you better. And it is also understood that begining things at earlier ages helps improve quicker.
Practice taking head shots while your brain is developing in order to get better at taking head shots.
Not surprising that all you see is head shots as opposed to great techniques and skills involving body contact.
Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:45 pm
I think part of the issue at the rep/A/MD/ maybe AA level is that a 1 hour "body checking" clinic requirement is not enough to effectively teach hitting.
Watch U14 players in year 1 of body checking with poor coaching. Kids are just trying to murder each other. In doing so they are taking themselves out of the play completing, ending up in the box, putting a target on themselves and ultimately hurting themselves or another player. I'm not suggesting to remove it, but a 1 hour clinic doesn't cut it as effective training on angling, body checking, positioning etc. Probably should be more requirement to learn it. And oh btw, sign the Rowan's Law card and then put it in the trash, great intent but coaches, players, parents don't care until they're concussed.
Yes, first year hitting is always a bit of a mess. Lack of technique and inexperience fuelled by access to the forbidden fruit are no doubt the reasons. Also, I think its a bit of a culture shock for parents.
However, not knowing when to expect a hit, as well as not knowing when and when not to throw a hit are all part of the ettiequte. It doesn't take long for players to figure out when their opponent had them and let the off them hook or went out of their way to finish a check. Once they figure out the ettiequte, things calm down because everyone knows that there are 15+ guys on the other bench who might take exception to a dirty play.
No amount of "body checking clinics" can replace in-game experience. Which is why I think contact should be part of the rep stream starting in Minor Atom. 4 years of non-contact hockey will not prepare them for first year contact at 13 years old...may as well go through the first year growing pains before puberty, when the kids are relatively the same size.
“The brains of 16- and 17-year-old hockey players are still too vulnerable,” Dr. Charles Tator said in an interview on Wednesday with TSN. “We are seeing that too many players are suffering the effects of brain trauma from permitted bodychecking, and in some cases, the symptoms can be there forever.”
Dr. Tator’s study was published Sept. 23 in the Canadian Journal of Neurological Sciences.
“There is a common misconception that introducing bodychecking at an early age can help prevent injuries such as concussion by ensuring that children are skilled in how to withstand a bodycheck, when in fact there is no data to support this,” the study said.
The only reason there is no data to support the notion is because there have never been any studies done in regard to the topic.
And yet you’re so certain about your views. Meanwhile there is this study and you’ve not nothing to refute it other than feelings.
Nothing like that at all. Just pointing out that the comment "there is no data to support this" is not as valid as some believe or pronounce.
But lets be honest, practice is provided to help improve. Practice at anything makes you better. And it is also understood that begining things at earlier ages helps improve quicker.
Practice taking head shots while your brain is developing in order to get better at taking head shots.
Not surprising that all you see is head shots as opposed to great techniques and skills involving body contact.
Didn’t read the article or study did you?
That has no relation to your pathetic ideals that all body contact is nothing but head shots.
Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:45 pm
I think part of the issue at the rep/A/MD/ maybe AA level is that a 1 hour "body checking" clinic requirement is not enough to effectively teach hitting.
Watch U14 players in year 1 of body checking with poor coaching. Kids are just trying to murder each other. In doing so they are taking themselves out of the play completing, ending up in the box, putting a target on themselves and ultimately hurting themselves or another player. I'm not suggesting to remove it, but a 1 hour clinic doesn't cut it as effective training on angling, body checking, positioning etc. Probably should be more requirement to learn it. And oh btw, sign the Rowan's Law card and then put it in the trash, great intent but coaches, players, parents don't care until they're concussed.
Yes, first year hitting is always a bit of a mess. Lack of technique and inexperience fuelled by access to the forbidden fruit are no doubt the reasons. Also, I think its a bit of a culture shock for parents.
However, not knowing when to expect a hit, as well as not knowing when and when not to throw a hit are all part of the ettiequte. It doesn't take long for players to figure out when their opponent had them and let the off them hook or went out of their way to finish a check. Once they figure out the ettiequte, things calm down because everyone knows that there are 15+ guys on the other bench who might take exception to a dirty play.
No amount of "body checking clinics" can replace in-game experience. Which is why I think contact should be part of the rep stream starting in Minor Atom. 4 years of non-contact hockey will not prepare them for first year contact at 13 years old...may as well go through the first year growing pains before puberty, when the kids are relatively the same size.
“The brains of 16- and 17-year-old hockey players are still too vulnerable,” Dr. Charles Tator said in an interview on Wednesday with TSN. “We are seeing that too many players are suffering the effects of brain trauma from permitted bodychecking, and in some cases, the symptoms can be there forever.”
Dr. Tator’s study was published Sept. 23 in the Canadian Journal of Neurological Sciences.
“There is a common misconception that introducing bodychecking at an early age can help prevent injuries such as concussion by ensuring that children are skilled in how to withstand a bodycheck, when in fact there is no data to support this,” the study said.
The only reason there is no data to support the notion is because there have never been any studies done in regard to the topic.
And yet you’re so certain about your views. Meanwhile there is this study and you’ve not nothing to refute it other than feelings.
Nothing like that at all. Just pointing out that the comment "there is no data to support this" is not as valid as some believe or pronounce.
But lets be honest, practice is provided to help improve. Practice at anything makes you better. And it is also understood that begining things at earlier ages helps improve quicker.
Practice taking head shots while your brain is developing in order to get better at taking head shots.
Not surprising that all you see is head shots as opposed to great techniques and skills involving body contact.
Didn’t read the article or study did you?
That has no relation to your pathetic ideals that all body contact is nothing but head shots.
The article is about concussions and the study is about concussions. What are concussions? A traumatic brain injury caused by a blow to the head.
Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:45 pm
I think part of the issue at the rep/A/MD/ maybe AA level is that a 1 hour "body checking" clinic requirement is not enough to effectively teach hitting.
Watch U14 players in year 1 of body checking with poor coaching. Kids are just trying to murder each other. In doing so they are taking themselves out of the play completing, ending up in the box, putting a target on themselves and ultimately hurting themselves or another player. I'm not suggesting to remove it, but a 1 hour clinic doesn't cut it as effective training on angling, body checking, positioning etc. Probably should be more requirement to learn it. And oh btw, sign the Rowan's Law card and then put it in the trash, great intent but coaches, players, parents don't care until they're concussed.
Yes, first year hitting is always a bit of a mess. Lack of technique and inexperience fuelled by access to the forbidden fruit are no doubt the reasons. Also, I think its a bit of a culture shock for parents.
However, not knowing when to expect a hit, as well as not knowing when and when not to throw a hit are all part of the ettiequte. It doesn't take long for players to figure out when their opponent had them and let the off them hook or went out of their way to finish a check. Once they figure out the ettiequte, things calm down because everyone knows that there are 15+ guys on the other bench who might take exception to a dirty play.
No amount of "body checking clinics" can replace in-game experience. Which is why I think contact should be part of the rep stream starting in Minor Atom. 4 years of non-contact hockey will not prepare them for first year contact at 13 years old...may as well go through the first year growing pains before puberty, when the kids are relatively the same size.
“The brains of 16- and 17-year-old hockey players are still too vulnerable,” Dr. Charles Tator said in an interview on Wednesday with TSN. “We are seeing that too many players are suffering the effects of brain trauma from permitted bodychecking, and in some cases, the symptoms can be there forever.”
Dr. Tator’s study was published Sept. 23 in the Canadian Journal of Neurological Sciences.
“There is a common misconception that introducing bodychecking at an early age can help prevent injuries such as concussion by ensuring that children are skilled in how to withstand a bodycheck, when in fact there is no data to support this,” the study said.
Removing bodychecking won't change a thing.
...2015 NCAA survey showed women’s hockey players reported more concussions than male football players. Since checking is not permitted in women’s hockey leagues, one would assume that concussions would be less prevalent. Since statistics show that this is not the case and women are reporting more concussions in hockey compared to men’s hockey, football and wrestling, it is important to understand why...
Like I said...kids can play 4 years of non-contact AAA, then they have the option to continue in a non-contact stream or transition to contact hockey.
If you have concerns about your kid riding a motorcycle, then don't but him one...same goes for hockey. According to NCAA there are plenty of concussions happening in womens non-contact hockey, so if you're concerned about hockey related concussions, best you don't sign him up at all.