OHL CUP 2023

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Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:45 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:36 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:29 am Usually at Minor Midget the G will have a couple dominant teams at the top. But that's because they get stacked by then. And those teams will have just as many kids that grew up playing in other leagues. So yes the G is always the 2 teams in final going back for some years now but it's not due to better coaching or development. It's player movement and rules for teams that aren't equal across the board. For example take all top ETA players from G and stack them on a a team with top players still in ETA, now do same with SCTA. It will certainly change some outcomes year after year. Look at most top 25 OHL draft rankings. Not many from G but they're on the same 2 teams.

They leave those dusty farm arenas to come to the G for better coaching and development, and greater exposure. It’s the yellow brick road, the Hollywood sign. Opportunities that nowhere else can provide. Simple as that.
Wrong. Not better exposure in reality and not better coaching. Again, check top 25 list, very few from G. Every league has their own assigned scouts and Development really starts at next level and so does good coaching.
Some programs have better coaching for sure but another things that’s different about the G compared to other leagues is that coaches in the G coach for a living because they actually get paid. They’re able to commit more time because most coaches in the other loops have full time jobs.
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Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:45 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:36 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:29 am Usually at Minor Midget the G will have a couple dominant teams at the top. But that's because they get stacked by then. And those teams will have just as many kids that grew up playing in other leagues. So yes the G is always the 2 teams in final going back for some years now but it's not due to better coaching or development. It's player movement and rules for teams that aren't equal across the board. For example take all top ETA players from G and stack them on a a team with top players still in ETA, now do same with SCTA. It will certainly change some outcomes year after year. Look at most top 25 OHL draft rankings. Not many from G but they're on the same 2 teams.

They leave those dusty farm arenas to come to the G for better coaching and development, and greater exposure. It’s the yellow brick road, the Hollywood sign. Opportunities that nowhere else can provide. Simple as that.
Wrong. Not better exposure in reality and not better coaching. Again, check top 25 list, very few from G. Every league has their own assigned scouts and Development really starts at next level and so does good coaching.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Not sure you know the meaning of the words "very" or "few".

2022 draft: 8 of 10 from G (including top 2), 0 of 10 from O; 12 of 20 from G, 3 of 20 from O

Let's ignore the fact that the two covid drafts did, let's be honest favour the G as more known players, and look pre-pandemic drafts, similar thing.

2019 draft: 5 of 10 from G (including top 2), 1 of 10 from O; 9 of 20 from G, 3 of 10 from O
2018 draft: 5 of 10 from G, great year for O with almost as many with 4 of 10; 10 of 20 from G, 7 of 20 from O
2017 draft: 7 of 10 from G, 1 of 10 from O; 12 of 10 from G, 4 of 20 from O

Great players come from all over the province. But there is a reason why so many great players come from outside the GTA to play in the GTHL. There is a reason you don't see the reverse.
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RR has already told Erie he will not report so going 1st overall is not on his radar
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2022 draft: 8 of 10 from G (including top 2), 0 of 10 from O; 12 of 20 from G, 3 of 20 from O

Let's ignore the fact that the two covid drafts did, let's be honest favour the G as more known players, and look pre-pandemic drafts, similar thing.

2019 draft: 5 of 10 from G (including top 2), 1 of 10 from O; 9 of 20 from G, 3 of 10 from O
2018 draft: 5 of 10 from G, great year for O with almost as many with 4 of 10; 10 of 20 from G, 7 of 20 from O
2017 draft: 7 of 10 from G, 1 of 10 from O; 12 of 10 from G, 4 of 20 from O

Great players come from all over the province. But there is a reason why so many great players come from outside the GTA to play in the GTHL. There is a reason you don't see the reverse.
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Is there any analysis of who were the most successful players and where they came from when they aged out?
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Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:29 am 2022 draft: 8 of 10 from G (including top 2), 0 of 10 from O; 12 of 20 from G, 3 of 20 from O

Let's ignore the fact that the two covid drafts did, let's be honest favour the G as more known players, and look pre-pandemic drafts, similar thing.

2019 draft: 5 of 10 from G (including top 2), 1 of 10 from O; 9 of 20 from G, 3 of 10 from O
2018 draft: 5 of 10 from G, great year for O with almost as many with 4 of 10; 10 of 20 from G, 7 of 20 from O
2017 draft: 7 of 10 from G, 1 of 10 from O; 12 of 10 from G, 4 of 20 from O

Great players come from all over the province. But there is a reason why so many great players come from outside the GTA to play in the GTHL. There is a reason you don't see the reverse.
Is there any analysis of who were the most successful players and where they came from when they aged out?
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Haven't seen any but that seems like it would be heavily colored by your development situation at the next level. I think (on average) that NHLer success is more indicative of how major junior prepared/developed them rather than how their minor leagues did.
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Everyone excited for the big game tonight?
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Any news on the two 05 players on Vaughan?
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Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:24 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:45 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:36 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:29 am Usually at Minor Midget the G will have a couple dominant teams at the top. But that's because they get stacked by then. And those teams will have just as many kids that grew up playing in other leagues. So yes the G is always the 2 teams in final going back for some years now but it's not due to better coaching or development. It's player movement and rules for teams that aren't equal across the board. For example take all top ETA players from G and stack them on a a team with top players still in ETA, now do same with SCTA. It will certainly change some outcomes year after year. Look at most top 25 OHL draft rankings. Not many from G but they're on the same 2 teams.

They leave those dusty farm arenas to come to the G for better coaching and development, and greater exposure. It’s the yellow brick road, the Hollywood sign. Opportunities that nowhere else can provide. Simple as that.
Wrong. Not better exposure in reality and not better coaching. Again, check top 25 list, very few from G. Every league has their own assigned scouts and Development really starts at next level and so does good coaching.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Not sure you know the meaning of the words "very" or "few".

2022 draft: 8 of 10 from G (including top 2), 0 of 10 from O; 12 of 20 from G, 3 of 20 from O

Let's ignore the fact that the two covid drafts did, let's be honest favour the G as more known players, and look pre-pandemic drafts, similar thing.

2019 draft: 5 of 10 from G (including top 2), 1 of 10 from O; 9 of 20 from G, 3 of 10 from O
2018 draft: 5 of 10 from G, great year for O with almost as many with 4 of 10; 10 of 20 from G, 7 of 20 from O
2017 draft: 7 of 10 from G, 1 of 10 from O; 12 of 10 from G, 4 of 20 from O

Great players come from all over the province. But there is a reason why so many great players come from outside the GTA to play in the GTHL. There is a reason you don't see the reverse.
That just proves that they come to G. Break it down further to tell us how many came from outside the G and at what age level. Any top 20 player would be drafted whether in G or not. Players just like the G. No better exposure or coaching.
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Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:21 pm Any news on the two 05 players on Vaughan?
What 05’s?
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Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 3:37 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:24 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:45 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:36 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:29 am Usually at Minor Midget the G will have a couple dominant teams at the top. But that's because they get stacked by then. And those teams will have just as many kids that grew up playing in other leagues. So yes the G is always the 2 teams in final going back for some years now but it's not due to better coaching or development. It's player movement and rules for teams that aren't equal across the board. For example take all top ETA players from G and stack them on a a team with top players still in ETA, now do same with SCTA. It will certainly change some outcomes year after year. Look at most top 25 OHL draft rankings. Not many from G but they're on the same 2 teams.

They leave those dusty farm arenas to come to the G for better coaching and development, and greater exposure. It’s the yellow brick road, the Hollywood sign. Opportunities that nowhere else can provide. Simple as that.
Wrong. Not better exposure in reality and not better coaching. Again, check top 25 list, very few from G. Every league has their own assigned scouts and Development really starts at next level and so does good coaching.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Not sure you know the meaning of the words "very" or "few".

2022 draft: 8 of 10 from G (including top 2), 0 of 10 from O; 12 of 20 from G, 3 of 20 from O

Let's ignore the fact that the two covid drafts did, let's be honest favour the G as more known players, and look pre-pandemic drafts, similar thing.

2019 draft: 5 of 10 from G (including top 2), 1 of 10 from O; 9 of 20 from G, 3 of 10 from O
2018 draft: 5 of 10 from G, great year for O with almost as many with 4 of 10; 10 of 20 from G, 7 of 20 from O
2017 draft: 7 of 10 from G, 1 of 10 from O; 12 of 10 from G, 4 of 20 from O

Great players come from all over the province. But there is a reason why so many great players come from outside the GTA to play in the GTHL. There is a reason you don't see the reverse.
That just proves that they come to G. Break it down further to tell us how many came from outside the G and at what age level. Any top 20 player would be drafted whether in G or not. Players just like the G. No better exposure or coaching.

The coaching is FAR superior and it’s not even close. Like the other poster said you never see the reverse and that’s why
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