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Opinion. There were 60 to 70 players in CCHL U18 every year that were not AAA caliber players.

Oh I know, any player having to come back to play U18AAA, in their second year, is not a true AAA player. Frankly the 5 team legacy AAA have about 30 players who aren't AAA caliber either.

Players like Cale Makar would be sad to hear this. Big hit to their confidence

Are you saying you liked the CCHL league?

Yes, the team my son played on ran a much better than his previous AAA teams, variety of competition was great!!

You claim the team your son played on was much better run then previous AAA teams. Were those teams run poorly or were they ran well but your cchl experience was just better? As for variety of competition - A HEO u18 club will not only play the same 4 teams, but many other teams from across Ontario that are legit good U18 organizations.
Also...if your kid is planning to tryout are you sure he will make it? 4 lines down to 3. Half as many teams and all former legit AAA players....approx 130+ kids are gonna be out of a job with all those teams eliminated so spots are gonna be tight come tryout time.

Who knows. Might be a wicked good situation.

Legit AAA players?!?!?!

First Ottawa can only support a MAX of 2 AAA teams per age group.

Second, if you are still playing AAA in U18AAA, you're no longer a "legit" AAA player. The dream is over.

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Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 9:20 pm

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Oh I know, any player having to come back to play U18AAA, in their second year, is not a true AAA player. Frankly the 5 team legacy AAA have about 30 players who aren't AAA caliber either.

Players like Cale Makar would be sad to hear this. Big hit to their confidence

Are you saying you liked the CCHL league?

Yes, the team my son played on ran a much better than his previous AAA teams, variety of competition was great!!

You claim the team your son played on was much better run then previous AAA teams. Were those teams run poorly or were they ran well but your cchl experience was just better? As for variety of competition - A HEO u18 club will not only play the same 4 teams, but many other teams from across Ontario that are legit good U18 organizations.
Also...if your kid is planning to tryout are you sure he will make it? 4 lines down to 3. Half as many teams and all former legit AAA players....approx 130+ kids are gonna be out of a job with all those teams eliminated so spots are gonna be tight come tryout time.

Who knows. Might be a wicked good situation.

Legit AAA players?!?!?!

First Ottawa can only support a MAX of 2 AAA teams per age group.

Second, if you are still playing AAA in U18AAA, you're no longer a "legit" AAA player. The dream is over.

2 teams?? Dude I don't know who cut you when you were a kid but you're angry for no reason. Lol.

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Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 9:20 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 7:33 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 11:47 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 11:35 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 11:08 pm



Oh I know, any player having to come back to play U18AAA, in their second year, is not a true AAA player. Frankly the 5 team legacy AAA have about 30 players who aren't AAA caliber either.

Players like Cale Makar would be sad to hear this. Big hit to their confidence

Are you saying you liked the CCHL league?

Yes, the team my son played on ran a much better than his previous AAA teams, variety of competition was great!!

You claim the team your son played on was much better run then previous AAA teams. Were those teams run poorly or were they ran well but your cchl experience was just better? As for variety of competition - A HEO u18 club will not only play the same 4 teams, but many other teams from across Ontario that are legit good U18 organizations.
Also...if your kid is planning to tryout are you sure he will make it? 4 lines down to 3. Half as many teams and all former legit AAA players....approx 130+ kids are gonna be out of a job with all those teams eliminated so spots are gonna be tight come tryout time.

Who knows. Might be a wicked good situation.

Legit AAA players?!?!?!

First Ottawa can only support a MAX of 2 AAA teams per age group.

Second, if you are still playing AAA in U18AAA, you're no longer a "legit" AAA player. The dream is over.

Has to be a EO Wild parent. LoL.

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Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 7:33 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 11:47 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 11:35 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 11:08 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 6:31 pm


Opinion. There were 60 to 70 players in CCHL U18 every year that were not AAA caliber players.

Oh I know, any player having to come back to play U18AAA, in their second year, is not a true AAA player. Frankly the 5 team legacy AAA have about 30 players who aren't AAA caliber either.

Players like Cale Makar would be sad to hear this. Big hit to their confidence

Are you saying you liked the CCHL league?

Yes, the team my son played on ran a much better than his previous AAA teams, variety of competition was great!!

You claim the team your son played on was much better run then previous AAA teams. Were those teams run poorly or were they ran well but your cchl experience was just better? As for variety of competition - A HEO u18 club will not only play the same 4 teams, but many other teams from across Ontario that are legit good U18 organizations.
Also...if your kid is planning to tryout are you sure he will make it? 4 lines down to 3. Half as many teams and all former legit AAA players....approx 130+ kids are gonna be out of a job with all those teams eliminated so spots are gonna be tight come tryout time.

Who knows. Might be a wicked good situation.

Great season last year. Great practice times, consistent every, mininmal last minute changes, team had own gym, good coach, good development. Games were competitive, could win/los any night with the exception of CIH. Have no desire to return to U18 if can play Junior.

Increased tournaments are a negative, takes up too much time & $$$, it is driving a lot of players away. Players have social lives, school pressure, jobs and affilitte at higher levels.

There were not 4 lines on teams, most had 10 forwards, which is needed with injury, suspensions.....that occur at this age. This is the way it is done in other parts of Ontario, in fact many teams carry 4 lines elsewhere.

There will be next to no returning 06's since they will end up in Junior hockey, with the 07's expect way more in Jr B, in past only a handful played next season almost every team will have 2 16 year olds. 06's and 07's that fall to U18 will not have a problems making a team.

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Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 9:20 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 7:33 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 11:47 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 11:35 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 11:08 pm



Oh I know, any player having to come back to play U18AAA, in their second year, is not a true AAA player. Frankly the 5 team legacy AAA have about 30 players who aren't AAA caliber either.

Players like Cale Makar would be sad to hear this. Big hit to their confidence

Are you saying you liked the CCHL league?

Yes, the team my son played on ran a much better than his previous AAA teams, variety of competition was great!!

You claim the team your son played on was much better run then previous AAA teams. Were those teams run poorly or were they ran well but your cchl experience was just better? As for variety of competition - A HEO u18 club will not only play the same 4 teams, but many other teams from across Ontario that are legit good U18 organizations.
Also...if your kid is planning to tryout are you sure he will make it? 4 lines down to 3. Half as many teams and all former legit AAA players....approx 130+ kids are gonna be out of a job with all those teams eliminated so spots are gonna be tight come tryout time.

Who knows. Might be a wicked good situation.

Legit AAA players?!?!?!

First Ottawa can only support a MAX of 2 AAA teams per age group.

Second, if you are still playing AAA in U18AAA, you're no longer a "legit" AAA player. The dream is over.

The CCHL U18 league had 12 teams. 10 teams to many IYO. Why do so many parents think the CCHL U18 league was good? Will a reduction of 7 teams not be a good thing for the quality of hockey at the U18 age group and therefore the development of the players.

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Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 11:47 am

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Players like Cale Makar would be sad to hear this. Big hit to their confidence

Are you saying you liked the CCHL league?

Yes, the team my son played on ran a much better than his previous AAA teams, variety of competition was great!!

You claim the team your son played on was much better run then previous AAA teams. Were those teams run poorly or were they ran well but your cchl experience was just better? As for variety of competition - A HEO u18 club will not only play the same 4 teams, but many other teams from across Ontario that are legit good U18 organizations.
Also...if your kid is planning to tryout are you sure he will make it? 4 lines down to 3. Half as many teams and all former legit AAA players....approx 130+ kids are gonna be out of a job with all those teams eliminated so spots are gonna be tight come tryout time.

Who knows. Might be a wicked good situation.

Legit AAA players?!?!?!

First Ottawa can only support a MAX of 2 AAA teams per age group.

Second, if you are still playing AAA in U18AAA, you're no longer a "legit" AAA player. The dream is over.

The CCHL U18 league had 12 teams. 10 teams to many IYO. Why do so many parents think the CCHL U18 league was good? Will a reduction of 7 teams not be a good thing for the quality of hockey at the U18 age group and therefore the development of the players.

It is a reduction of 2 teams, the 12 teams replaced by 5 U16 and 5 U18 teams. The problem is the top U18 players will end up in Junior, estimate of 25 plus or minus more in Junior B than in oast. This will drain U18 of a lot of good talent. This will eliminate any potential for a stronger U18 league.

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Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 6:01 am Whats been identified due to this thread is this.

#1 Many players aren't really that amazing anyways. Fact is, if your kid was "good" they'd be doing good things in the O show or Jr A.

#2 Due to legit AAA kids moving on - AA kids move up. I mean anyone can be AAA if there is a spot available at the table. Its like having an older brother and you get all his hand me down gear.

#3 Hockey Dads have an enormous amount of insecurity. Which is fine. Coincidentally they are the same dads who don't shower after mens league - also due to insecurities.

#4 Identifying when "The Dream" is over is not most AA dads strong suit. A+ for not giving up though!

The more ya know.

You're welcome.

I hear ya, the Ottawa region can really only support 1 to 2 "real" AAA teams. I posted on this a bunch and was met by the usual AA mentality. Have 2 travel teams, practice more, and develop your true elite players not the wanna bets that water the league down.

If your kid is still playing AAA after his U16AAA year, he's not that good, give it up. All those fake AAA dads of fake AAA players have been sucked in for so long, they are in denial now.

The entire legacy AAA has been watered down forever!


Love watching the drama from these discussions squirming like crazy, blaming everyone around them, and ending up in the same position as others they have cut up for years. Just because some parents running HEO gave a team and your kid the AAA handle, doesn't make them AAA caliber.

Pro tip, the elite are the elite, just accept it, it's easier that way.

Cheers

Gotta identify the "elites" as early as possible (age 5/6 max) and keep them together for 10 years. Eliminate everyone else, forever. Kinda like the original nazi ideology for their athletes

Who's talking Nazi'a champ!! Over reaction isn't a good thing.

I'm not taking at 5, we are talking U12AAA, come on now, stay on point.

You sound like you are

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Who out there thought CCHL U18 was AAA. IMO no one.

Your opinion counts somehow!?!?

All those legacy AAA kids playing all these years there must have been living a lie. Oh well, your little stat is going to the O at 16 right?

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 3:06 pm

Who out there thought CCHL U18 was AAA. IMO no one.

Your opinion counts somehow!?!?

All those legacy AAA kids playing all these years there must have been living a lie. Oh well, your little stat is going to the O at 16 right?

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Opinion. There were 60 to 70 players in CCHL U18 every year that were not AAA caliber players.

Oh I know, any player having to come back to play U18AAA, in their second year, is not a true AAA player. Frankly the 5 team legacy AAA have about 30 players who aren't AAA caliber either.

Players like Cale Makar would be sad to hear this. Big hit to their confidence

Do not put shit on here that is so easy to check.
Get your facts correct.

Haha but you still had to double check because you know that the above trash statement is ridiculous

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Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 7:33 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 11:47 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 11:35 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 11:08 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 6:31 pm


Opinion. There were 60 to 70 players in CCHL U18 every year that were not AAA caliber players.

Oh I know, any player having to come back to play U18AAA, in their second year, is not a true AAA player. Frankly the 5 team legacy AAA have about 30 players who aren't AAA caliber either.

Players like Cale Makar would be sad to hear this. Big hit to their confidence

Are you saying you liked the CCHL league?

Yes, the team my son played on ran a much better than his previous AAA teams, variety of competition was great!!

You claim the team your son played on was much better run then previous AAA teams. Were those teams run poorly or were they ran well but your cchl experience was just better? As for variety of competition - A HEO u18 club will not only play the same 4 teams, but many other teams from across Ontario that are legit good U18 organizations.
Also...if your kid is planning to tryout are you sure he will make it? 4 lines down to 3. Half as many teams and all former legit AAA players....approx 130+ kids are gonna be out of a job with all those teams eliminated so spots are gonna be tight come tryout time.

Who knows. Might be a wicked good situation.

You sounds like you work for HEO or for one of the legacy orgs. Beauty pitch though

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Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 10:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 9:20 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 7:33 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 11:47 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 11:35 am

Players like Cale Makar would be sad to hear this. Big hit to their confidence

Are you saying you liked the CCHL league?

Yes, the team my son played on ran a much better than his previous AAA teams, variety of competition was great!!

You claim the team your son played on was much better run then previous AAA teams. Were those teams run poorly or were they ran well but your cchl experience was just better? As for variety of competition - A HEO u18 club will not only play the same 4 teams, but many other teams from across Ontario that are legit good U18 organizations.
Also...if your kid is planning to tryout are you sure he will make it? 4 lines down to 3. Half as many teams and all former legit AAA players....approx 130+ kids are gonna be out of a job with all those teams eliminated so spots are gonna be tight come tryout time.

Who knows. Might be a wicked good situation.

Legit AAA players?!?!?!

First Ottawa can only support a MAX of 2 AAA teams per age group.

Second, if you are still playing AAA in U18AAA, you're no longer a "legit" AAA player. The dream is over.

The CCHL U18 league had 12 teams. 10 teams to many IYO. Why do so many parents think the CCHL U18 league was good? Will a reduction of 7 teams not be a good thing for the quality of hockey at the U18 age group and therefore the development of the players.

Why stop at a reduction of only 7 teams?? What 's your logic?

Isn't 2 teams a higher concentration of talent? Isn't that the goal of legacy AAA, to stop rhe league from being watered down?

If we compare ourselves to the GTHL who have 12 teams, if we have more than 3 our teams will be watered down.

Yhetr will NEVER be more than 2 teams worth of HEO players who move on to Jr. A, or Major Jr. Hockey. Having more than 2 AAA teams doesn't make sense.

What points are wrong?