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Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:24 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 4:50 pm More than 2 teams means you have teams full of AA caliber talent. Sorry dad, this is reality. Does it hurt?

You're absolutely right. Everyone knows that there is a precise formula for how many "actual" AAA players exist per 1000 registered players, this should be the exact guide of how many tier 1 teams should exist, if in doubt you round down to avoid tainting the elites.
Also, there is a 100% clear-cut defined line between "AAA" quality and "AA" 100% of the time.
Since hockey has no politics or money involved, going with one team would probably be best because due to the above formula, the odds are that the HEO region only really has 20-23 bonafide "AAA" players in any age group, so having two teams could be "Watering down" things for the elites, and there would be a risk of lower quality players sneaking through.

Besides that, you're onto something

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:01 pm One AAA team per year sounds about right. That way we can beat up on all other teams in the province, especially those dastardly GTA teams. Why look, the 08 Ottawa District team just finished spanking the GTA team in the finals of the 2023 Draftday All-Star Prospects Showcase! Then, for sure we'd have what, 17 1st round OHL picks from Ottawa, because development!

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:11 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:24 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 4:50 pm More than 2 teams means you have teams full of AA caliber talent. Sorry dad, this is reality. Does it hurt?

You're absolutely right. Everyone knows that there is a precise formula for how many "actual" AAA players exist per 1000 registered players, this should be the exact guide of how many tier 1 teams should exist, if in doubt you round down to avoid tainting the elites.
Also, there is a 100% clear-cut defined line between "AAA" quality and "AA" 100% of the time.
Since hockey has no politics or money involved, going with one team would probably be best because due to the above formula, the odds are that the HEO region only really has 20-23 bonafide "AAA" players in any age group, so having two teams could be "Watering down" things for the elites, and there would be a risk of lower quality players sneaking through.

Besides that, you're onto something

I go based on comparators such as the GTHL. I also use the number of players that move on to Jr. A or higher.

But you are probably a blind legacy AAA supporter. You can't even articulate a rebuttal.

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 8:44 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:11 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:24 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 4:50 pm More than 2 teams means you have teams full of AA caliber talent. Sorry dad, this is reality. Does it hurt?

You're absolutely right. Everyone knows that there is a precise formula for how many "actual" AAA players exist per 1000 registered players, this should be the exact guide of how many tier 1 teams should exist, if in doubt you round down to avoid tainting the elites.
Also, there is a 100% clear-cut defined line between "AAA" quality and "AA" 100% of the time.
Since hockey has no politics or money involved, going with one team would probably be best because due to the above formula, the odds are that the HEO region only really has 20-23 bonafide "AAA" players in any age group, so having two teams could be "Watering down" things for the elites, and there would be a risk of lower quality players sneaking through.

Besides that, you're onto something

I go based on comparators such as the GTHL. I also use the number of players that move on to Jr. A or higher.

But you are probably a blind legacy AAA supporter. You can't even articulate a rebuttal.

I think you have me confused with someone else. i think your idea is great, but just not quite exclusive enough. If 100% of U13AAA players aren't moving on to at least JR hockey, why even bother.

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Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:51 pm

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Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:38 am

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Guest wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:42 pm

Well for starters, "Costs would be Cheaper" is one of the most hilarious things ever posted on here, and that is saying something

Yes they would.

Prove me wrong

Definitely not an accountant that we are working with here I see. (Unless maybe you work for the governmment)

So no proof, not even an attempt. How appropriate. Just claim it to be true, and expect people to believe you. Here i can play.

1-a 2 team AAA representation from HEO is more fiscally effective, and provides more value for the money that will be spent. It will also be cheaper than legacy AAA.

2-the outcome will be FAR greater, and provide FAR better results than legacy AAA

Post some fake numbers as proof of the 2 team system

I know the concept of 2 teams vs 5 teams and the higher concentration of talent goes above your head.

but anyways......

5 teams is watered down, and it hurts player development

prove me wrong.

Or don't post anything, complain, stomp your feet and blame someone else......ah Liberals

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Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:23 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:06 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:38 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 8:38 am


Yes they would.

Prove me wrong

Definitely not an accountant that we are working with here I see. (Unless maybe you work for the governmment)

So no proof, not even an attempt. How appropriate. Just claim it to be true, and expect people to believe you. Here i can play.

1-a 2 team AAA representation from HEO is more fiscally effective, and provides more value for the money that will be spent. It will also be cheaper than legacy AAA.

2-the outcome will be FAR greater, and provide FAR better results than legacy AAA

Post some fake numbers as proof of the 2 team system

I know the concept of 2 teams vs 5 teams and the higher concentration of talent goes above your head.

but anyways......

5 teams is watered down, and it hurts player development

prove me wrong.

Or don't post anything, complain, stomp your feet and blame someone else......ah Liberals

You want someone to prove you wrong with your two-team idea. Yet you do not provide any details.
You would not believe any posts anyway; your mind is closed. Nice to know there is a lot of free thinking going on in your house.

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:29 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:10 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:23 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:06 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:38 am

Definitely not an accountant that we are working with here I see. (Unless maybe you work for the governmment)

So no proof, not even an attempt. How appropriate. Just claim it to be true, and expect people to believe you. Here i can play.

1-a 2 team AAA representation from HEO is more fiscally effective, and provides more value for the money that will be spent. It will also be cheaper than legacy AAA.

2-the outcome will be FAR greater, and provide FAR better results than legacy AAA

Post some fake numbers as proof of the 2 team system

I know the concept of 2 teams vs 5 teams and the higher concentration of talent goes above your head.

but anyways......

5 teams is watered down, and it hurts player development

prove me wrong.

Or don't post anything, complain, stomp your feet and blame someone else......ah Liberals

You want someone to prove you wrong with your two-team idea. Yet you do not provide any details.
You would not believe any posts anyway; your mind is closed. Nice to know there is a lot of free thinking going on in your house.

Don't be so lazy I have posted several posts with lists of why 2 teams is better. I can't help it if you chose not to look. Close minded eh, I keep asking for someone to prove me wrong. Try thinking and engaging in debate. Or stick with drama points, and excuses.

All we kept hearing about the CCHL run U18AAA league was that it was watered down. No attempts at determining what the proper number of teams should be. I broke the logic down for 2 teams a couple times, and specifically addressed the "watered down" complaint many people had. People here want their kid in AAA, have no idea what player development is, how to achieve it, when it peaks, or why it's different for different players.

Try engaging in debate with at least some ideas and try to support your position beyond just opinion.

Close.minded, lol, I see excuses and probably a realization that you're wrong.

Prove me wrong

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:29 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:10 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:23 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:06 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:38 am

Definitely not an accountant that we are working with here I see. (Unless maybe you work for the governmment)

So no proof, not even an attempt. How appropriate. Just claim it to be true, and expect people to believe you. Here i can play.

1-a 2 team AAA representation from HEO is more fiscally effective, and provides more value for the money that will be spent. It will also be cheaper than legacy AAA.

2-the outcome will be FAR greater, and provide FAR better results than legacy AAA

Post some fake numbers as proof of the 2 team system

I know the concept of 2 teams vs 5 teams and the higher concentration of talent goes above your head.

but anyways......

5 teams is watered down, and it hurts player development

prove me wrong.

Or don't post anything, complain, stomp your feet and blame someone else......ah Liberals

You want someone to prove you wrong with your two-team idea. Yet you do not provide any details.
You would not believe any posts anyway; your mind is closed. Nice to know there is a lot of free thinking going on in your house.

Don't be so lazy I have posted several posts with lists of why 2 teams is better. I can't help it if you chose not to look. Close minded eh, I keep asking for someone to prove me wrong. Try thinking and engaging in debate. Or stick with drama points, and excuses.

All we kept hearing about the CCHL run U18AAA league was that it was watered down. No attempts at determining what the proper number of teams should be. I broke the logic down for 2 teams a couple times, and specifically addressed the "watered down" complaint many people had. People here want their kid in AAA, have no idea what player development is, how to achieve it, when it peaks, or why it's different for different players.

Try engaging in debate with at least some ideas and try to support your position beyond just opinion.

Close.minded, lol, I see excuses and probably a realization that you're wrong.

Prove me wrong

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:55 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:29 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:10 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:23 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:06 am


So no proof, not even an attempt. How appropriate. Just claim it to be true, and expect people to believe you. Here i can play.

1-a 2 team AAA representation from HEO is more fiscally effective, and provides more value for the money that will be spent. It will also be cheaper than legacy AAA.

2-the outcome will be FAR greater, and provide FAR better results than legacy AAA

Post some fake numbers as proof of the 2 team system

I know the concept of 2 teams vs 5 teams and the higher concentration of talent goes above your head.

but anyways......

5 teams is watered down, and it hurts player development

prove me wrong.

Or don't post anything, complain, stomp your feet and blame someone else......ah Liberals

You want someone to prove you wrong with your two-team idea. Yet you do not provide any details.
You would not believe any posts anyway; your mind is closed. Nice to know there is a lot of free thinking going on in your house.

Don't be so lazy I have posted several posts with lists of why 2 teams is better. I can't help it if you chose not to look. Close minded eh, I keep asking for someone to prove me wrong. Try thinking and engaging in debate. Or stick with drama points, and excuses.

All we kept hearing about the CCHL run U18AAA league was that it was watered down. No attempts at determining what the proper number of teams should be. I broke the logic down for 2 teams a couple times, and specifically addressed the "watered down" complaint many people had. People here want their kid in AAA, have no idea what player development is, how to achieve it, when it peaks, or why it's different for different players.

Try engaging in debate with at least some ideas and try to support your position beyond just opinion.

Close.minded, lol, I see excuses and probably a realization that you're wrong.

Prove me wrong

Do you realize that Hockey Canada dictates that a league has to have a minimum of four teams?

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:06 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:55 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:29 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:10 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:23 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:51 pm

Post some fake numbers as proof of the 2 team system

I know the concept of 2 teams vs 5 teams and the higher concentration of talent goes above your head.

but anyways......

5 teams is watered down, and it hurts player development

prove me wrong.

Or don't post anything, complain, stomp your feet and blame someone else......ah Liberals

You want someone to prove you wrong with your two-team idea. Yet you do not provide any details.
You would not believe any posts anyway; your mind is closed. Nice to know there is a lot of free thinking going on in your house.

Don't be so lazy I have posted several posts with lists of why 2 teams is better. I can't help it if you chose not to look. Close minded eh, I keep asking for someone to prove me wrong. Try thinking and engaging in debate. Or stick with drama points, and excuses.

All we kept hearing about the CCHL run U18AAA league was that it was watered down. No attempts at determining what the proper number of teams should be. I broke the logic down for 2 teams a couple times, and specifically addressed the "watered down" complaint many people had. People here want their kid in AAA, have no idea what player development is, how to achieve it, when it peaks, or why it's different for different players.

Try engaging in debate with at least some ideas and try to support your position beyond just opinion.

Close.minded, lol, I see excuses and probably a realization that you're wrong.

Prove me wrong

Do you realize that Hockey Canada dictates that a league has to have a minimum of four teams?

Did you realize that my proposal is not for a league, but for a travel team?