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Guest wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 5:53 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:41 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:14 pmThoughts!

Junior leagues have been parent run for decades, but with so many spots it really is inconsequential. Kids who are legit will always find their way.

When a parent "buys" their kid a spot, all they are doing is buying their kid time to develop. If the kid is a late bloomer, things could pan out. If not, he will likely age out and end up playing CIS.

Bottom line, there are too many eyes in hockey to overlook a kid. If a parent is upset because their kid didn't get drafted, they need to realize that it's not because of corruption...it's because the kid isn't good enough.

Not true.
So many legitimately talented kids are not being played and not being developed because others less talented pay for spots and playing time.
Paying for a spot ensures a kid gets developed and gets ice time while others do not.
So many kids getting drafted because their parents have paid for a spot and paid their way all through the GTHL. They take away opportunities for kids who actually deserve spots.
Corruption has ruined our talent pool and our hockey.

Guest wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 5:53 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:41 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:14 pmThoughts!

Junior leagues have been parent run for decades, but with so many spots it really is inconsequential. Kids who are legit will always find their way.

When a parent "buys" their kid a spot, all they are doing is buying their kid time to develop. If the kid is a late bloomer, things could pan out. If not, he will likely age out and end up playing CIS.

Bottom line, there are too many eyes in hockey to overlook a kid. If a parent is upset because their kid didn't get drafted, they need to realize that it's not because of corruption...it's because the kid isn't good enough.

Not true.
So many legitimately talented kids are not being played and not being developed because others less talented pay for spots and playing time.
Paying for a spot ensures a kid gets developed and gets ice time while others do not.
So many kids getting drafted because their parents have paid for a spot and paid their way all through the GTHL. They take away opportunities for kids who actually deserve spots.
Corruption has ruined our talent pool and our hockey.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:41 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:14 pmThoughts!

Junior leagues have been parent run for decades, but with so many spots it really is inconsequential. Kids who are legit will always find their way.

When a parent "buys" their kid a spot, all they are doing is buying their kid time to develop. If the kid is a late bloomer, things could pan out. If not, he will likely age out and end up playing CIS.

Bottom line, there are too many eyes in hockey to overlook a kid. If a parent is upset because their kid didn't get drafted, they need to realize that it's not because of corruption...it's because the kid isn't good enough.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:46 pm https://ontariohockeyleague.com/prospects/2023/96747865

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:49 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:46 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:46 pm https://ontariohockeyleague.com/prospects/2023/96747865

And some desperate parent will blame corruption for their kid not being the 299th pick.

General Manager Dave Drinkill: "So Cruz Ferguson is a highly skilled player, one that needs to develop a little bit off the ice as he's a little bit undersized, but he's a late birthday. I know he puts in the work, he trains hard, he's from my hometown of Barrie, Ontario, and I know his family. He has a lot of skill and I know he will keep developing physically as a player."

The likelihood of the last pick ever making the team is extremely low, no matter who the kid is. So if a GM wants to use his last pick to claim the rights of a kid whom he is familiar with, its his right to do so.

Teams in the league have a responsibility to uphold the standard, the reputation and the strength of the league. They do not have the ‘right’ to profiteer or to use league resources to do favours for friends. It’s either a professionally conducted and well run league top to bottom, or it isn’t.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:46 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:46 pm https://ontariohockeyleague.com/prospects/2023/96747865

And some desperate parent will blame corruption for their kid not being the 299th pick.

General Manager Dave Drinkill: "So Cruz Ferguson is a highly skilled player, one that needs to develop a little bit off the ice as he's a little bit undersized, but he's a late birthday. I know he puts in the work, he trains hard, he's from my hometown of Barrie, Ontario, and I know his family. He has a lot of skill and I know he will keep developing physically as a player."

The likelihood of the last pick ever making the team is extremely low, no matter who the kid is. So if a GM wants to use his last pick to claim the rights of a kid whom he is familiar with, its his right to do so.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:46 pm https://ontariohockeyleague.com/prospects/2023/96747865

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Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:14 pmThoughts!

I think the title of this thread is hilarious...can somebody please explain how parents paying a GTHL team would have anything to do with a kid getting drafted?? There is absolutely zero chance of anyone in the GTHL having any "sway" when it comes to token spots the OHL draft.

By token I am referring the last 150 spots that team owners give to family, friends or the son of a sponsor. A parent could most likely buy their kid a token spot...as long as it hasn't already gone to the club owners nephew. If that token spot remains vacant, then they use it to claim the rights of an average Joe who will never make the roster. Simply put the talent pool isn't deep enough for the second half of the draft to mean anything.

Also, with so few kids making the jump to pro at 18, 99% of OHL players are either sent down to tier 2 or stay in the system until they age out and move on to CIS. If an OHL player isn't ready for the NHL, they aren't aren't eligible to play in the AHL and are forced to return to the OHL (i.e. Brandt Clark, Brennon Othman, both first round NHL picks...still playing in the OHL at age 20.) In other words the rate of attrition only leaves room for a handful of newly drafted players. The majority of OHL drafted players will play Tier 2 or Midget.

If a kid is a late bloomer, it's almost better to be undrafted. He stands as good a chance to make the jump to major junior as a walk-on at tryouts as one of his cohorts who was drafted 200th. The advantage is that the undrafted kid is available to every team, while the 200th draft pick is not.

Now, if the thread was about an "OHL investigation on parents paying OHL teams for their sons to be drafted", it would make sense.

This thread makes no sense and there’s no investigation related to this.