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Re: 2010 GTHL AAA

by Guest » Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:01 pm

Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:15 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:03 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:41 pm Development is far more important then winning some meaningless tournaments here and there. Plus great culture. Your coach hasn’t won sh!t either. And he’s an abusive fu$k. Best coaches develop hockey players.
Get your tongue out of his ass your embarrassing yourself. Great culture…Ok….becsuse your kid is a mediocre AA player and he promised to make your kid AAA. Hahaha your kid is irrelevant and RA has promised at least 8-10 AA kids to make into players and it’s only happened once with the kid from SYB. One that’s it. So keep your culture. He ain’t taking your kid anywhere he is a lying sack of 💩
Great coach. Even better human.
Ya sure buddy
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Suck it bud.
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That’s your job bud. Isn’t that how you got on the team.
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You’re coach is horrible don’t be angry no one showed up.
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Who’s on VK heard no one showed up for tryouts? All the OMHA kids stayed home after they watched that psycho coach lose his shit at in the OHL cup. Is this true?
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Facts.
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SK will take over VK as he will be unemployed after tonight.
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Yes SK will takeover as his son signed to VK. Must be nice to have connections with big daddy
[/quote]

Can’t win with the best players in the league. Doubt he will be able to help a bunch of plugs. Wasn’t his kid AS last year?
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What’s going on in TM land? Players already de-committing just days after signing
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New rankings
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Ms
Jrc
Vk
Reps
Dm
Tm
Nyr
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TT
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After seeing the additions added to each roster for this season the above rankings are very accurate.
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MM
SENS
TM
JRC
DMF
REPS
VK
TRW
NATS
TT
REB
NYR

SCREEN SHOT THIS DICKHEAD$ THIS IS REAL.
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So many hockey experts on here. You should all have shows on tsn.
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JRC better up front worse at the back goaltending mediocre - they now have two top end goalies so likely to be better

VK same all around goaltending still their saviour. - might not help if stud D is gone

Sens same up front better back end much improved goaltending - grabbing one of the MM goalies is big so likely to be better

TM better all around. Goaltending best in loop. - I'll believe it when I see it. Lot's of promise.

MM will be same goaltending got worse. - not having two top end goalies will have an impact. Not sure who they bring in

DMF better up front worse defensively goaltending same. - agreed

Reps forwards better d same goaltending same. - goaltending replacement does help

TRW better up front same everywhere else. - losing a good D doesn't help.
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I was agreeing with you until the Reps.
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I actually agree with the above list.

The reps challenged for first last year…
The Forwards very much improved, Defence somehow got even stronger. Just the goaltending will be their hole.
Lost the best goalie in the league to JRC.

Re: 2010 GTHL AAA

by Guest » Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:15 pm

Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:03 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:41 pm Development is far more important then winning some meaningless tournaments here and there. Plus great culture. Your coach hasn’t won sh!t either. And he’s an abusive fu$k. Best coaches develop hockey players.
Get your tongue out of his ass your embarrassing yourself. Great culture…Ok….becsuse your kid is a mediocre AA player and he promised to make your kid AAA. Hahaha your kid is irrelevant and RA has promised at least 8-10 AA kids to make into players and it’s only happened once with the kid from SYB. One that’s it. So keep your culture. He ain’t taking your kid anywhere he is a lying sack of 💩
Great coach. Even better human.
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Ya sure buddy
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Suck it bud.
[/quote]

That’s your job bud. Isn’t that how you got on the team.
[/quote]

You’re coach is horrible don’t be angry no one showed up.
[/quote]

Who’s on VK heard no one showed up for tryouts? All the OMHA kids stayed home after they watched that psycho coach lose his shit at in the OHL cup. Is this true?
[/quote]

Facts.
[/quote]

SK will take over VK as he will be unemployed after tonight.
[/quote]

Yes SK will takeover as his son signed to VK. Must be nice to have connections with big daddy
[/quote]

Can’t win with the best players in the league. Doubt he will be able to help a bunch of plugs. Wasn’t his kid AS last year?
[/quote]

What’s going on in TM land? Players already de-committing just days after signing
[/quote]

New rankings
Mm
Ms
Jrc
Vk
Reps
Dm
Tm
Nyr
Nats
TT
Trw
Rebs
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MM
JRC
TM
MS
REPS
DMF
TRW
VK
REBS
TT
NYR
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NATS

After seeing the additions added to each roster for this season the above rankings are very accurate.
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MM
SENS
TM
JRC
DMF
REPS
VK
TRW
NATS
TT
REB
NYR

SCREEN SHOT THIS DICKHEAD$ THIS IS REAL.
[/quote]

So many hockey experts on here. You should all have shows on tsn.
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JRC better up front worse at the back goaltending mediocre - they now have two top end goalies so likely to be better

VK same all around goaltending still their saviour. - might not help if stud D is gone

Sens same up front better back end much improved goaltending - grabbing one of the MM goalies is big so likely to be better

TM better all around. Goaltending best in loop. - I'll believe it when I see it. Lot's of promise.

MM will be same goaltending got worse. - not having two top end goalies will have an impact. Not sure who they bring in

DMF better up front worse defensively goaltending same. - agreed

Reps forwards better d same goaltending same. - goaltending replacement does help

TRW better up front same everywhere else. - losing a good D doesn't help.
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I was agreeing with you until the Reps.

Re: 2010 GTHL AAA

by Guest » Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:03 pm

Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:41 pm Development is far more important then winning some meaningless tournaments here and there. Plus great culture. Your coach hasn’t won sh!t either. And he’s an abusive fu$k. Best coaches develop hockey players.
Get your tongue out of his ass your embarrassing yourself. Great culture…Ok….becsuse your kid is a mediocre AA player and he promised to make your kid AAA. Hahaha your kid is irrelevant and RA has promised at least 8-10 AA kids to make into players and it’s only happened once with the kid from SYB. One that’s it. So keep your culture. He ain’t taking your kid anywhere he is a lying sack of 💩
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Great coach. Even better human.
[/quote]

Ya sure buddy
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Suck it bud.
[/quote]

That’s your job bud. Isn’t that how you got on the team.
[/quote]

You’re coach is horrible don’t be angry no one showed up.
[/quote]

Who’s on VK heard no one showed up for tryouts? All the OMHA kids stayed home after they watched that psycho coach lose his shit at in the OHL cup. Is this true?
[/quote]

Facts.
[/quote]

SK will take over VK as he will be unemployed after tonight.
[/quote]

Yes SK will takeover as his son signed to VK. Must be nice to have connections with big daddy
[/quote]

Can’t win with the best players in the league. Doubt he will be able to help a bunch of plugs. Wasn’t his kid AS last year?
[/quote]

What’s going on in TM land? Players already de-committing just days after signing
[/quote]

New rankings
Mm
Ms
Jrc
Vk
Reps
Dm
Tm
Nyr
Nats
TT
Trw
Rebs
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MM
JRC
TM
MS
REPS
DMF
TRW
VK
REBS
TT
NYR
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NATS

After seeing the additions added to each roster for this season the above rankings are very accurate.
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MM
SENS
TM
JRC
DMF
REPS
VK
TRW
NATS
TT
REB
NYR

SCREEN SHOT THIS DICKHEAD$ THIS IS REAL.
[/quote]

So many hockey experts on here. You should all have shows on tsn.
[/quote]


JRC better up front worse at the back goaltending mediocre - they now have two top end goalies so likely to be better

VK same all around goaltending still their saviour. - might not help if stud D is gone

Sens same up front better back end much improved goaltending - grabbing one of the MM goalies is big so likely to be better

TM better all around. Goaltending best in loop. - I'll believe it when I see it. Lot's of promise.

MM will be same goaltending got worse. - not having two top end goalies will have an impact. Not sure who they bring in

DMF better up front worse defensively goaltending same. - agreed

Reps forwards better d same goaltending same. - goaltending replacement does help

TRW better up front same everywhere else. - losing a good D doesn't help.

Re: 2010 GTHL AAA

by Guest » Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:41 pm

Development is far more important then winning some meaningless tournaments here and there. Plus great culture. Your coach hasn’t won sh!t either. And he’s an abusive fu$k. Best coaches develop hockey players.
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Get your tongue out of his ass your embarrassing yourself. Great culture…Ok….becsuse your kid is a mediocre AA player and he promised to make your kid AAA. Hahaha your kid is irrelevant and RA has promised at least 8-10 AA kids to make into players and it’s only happened once with the kid from SYB. One that’s it. So keep your culture. He ain’t taking your kid anywhere he is a lying sack of 💩
[/quote]

Great coach. Even better human.
[/quote]

Ya sure buddy
[/quote]

Suck it bud.
[/quote]

That’s your job bud. Isn’t that how you got on the team.
[/quote]

You’re coach is horrible don’t be angry no one showed up.
[/quote]

Who’s on VK heard no one showed up for tryouts? All the OMHA kids stayed home after they watched that psycho coach lose his shit at in the OHL cup. Is this true?
[/quote]

Facts.
[/quote]

SK will take over VK as he will be unemployed after tonight.
[/quote]

Yes SK will takeover as his son signed to VK. Must be nice to have connections with big daddy
[/quote]

Can’t win with the best players in the league. Doubt he will be able to help a bunch of plugs. Wasn’t his kid AS last year?
[/quote]

What’s going on in TM land? Players already de-committing just days after signing
[/quote]

New rankings
Mm
Ms
Jrc
Vk
Reps
Dm
Tm
Nyr
Nats
TT
Trw
Rebs
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MM
JRC
TM
MS
REPS
DMF
TRW
VK
REBS
TT
NYR
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NATS

After seeing the additions added to each roster for this season the above rankings are very accurate.
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MM
SENS
TM
JRC
DMF
REPS
VK
TRW
NATS
TT
REB
NYR

SCREEN SHOT THIS DICKHEAD$ THIS IS REAL.
[/quote]

So many hockey experts on here. You should all have shows on tsn.
[/quote]

If you think about the player movement. Who left who stayed this is fairly accurate IMO.

JRC better up front worse at the back goaltending mediocre

VK same all around goaltending still their saviour.

Sens same up front better back end much improved goaltending

TM better all around. Goaltending best in loop.

MM will be same goaltending got worse.

DMF better up front worse defensively goaltending same.

Reps forwards better d same goaltending same.

TRW better up front same everywhere else.

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SENS
TM
JRC
DMF
REPS
VK
TRW

Rest don’t matter this is your playoff format.

Re: 2010 GTHL AAA

by Guest » Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:21 pm

Guest wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:07 pm
Guest wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:54 pm
Guest wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:50 pm
Guest wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:42 pm
Guest wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:31 pm Let start a new topic in this category of 2010 AAA.

Jealously

So much of it in the G! My kid experiences it all the time. Okay to a certain degree I expect it from other teams but when it’s from your teammates and their parents it’s just pathetic. I can’t help your feelings are hurt because my kid has talent and works harder than your kid. I can’t help I can afford to send my kid to a private hockey school and buy him the top of the line equipment

Nice.. private hockey school with non certified teachers. Shows how smart you are.
Someone jealous? He’s on the ice every day and has a small class size and a chef makes their lunch everyday
A chef thats actually laughable - bad fried pub food - no wonder half those kids are overweight and out of shape! Its obesity not jealousy!
You saying Everest Academy doesn’t serve healthy food to the kids for lunch? Do you even know who the principal is?!
Who is the principal?

Re: 2010 GTHL AAA

by Guest » Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:10 am

Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:03 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:58 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:54 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:39 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:05 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:57 am
Development is far more important then winning some meaningless tournaments here and there. Plus great culture. Your coach hasn’t won sh!t either. And he’s an abusive fu$k. Best coaches develop hockey players.
Get your tongue out of his ass your embarrassing yourself. Great culture…Ok….becsuse your kid is a mediocre AA player and he promised to make your kid AAA. Hahaha your kid is irrelevant and RA has promised at least 8-10 AA kids to make into players and it’s only happened once with the kid from SYB. One that’s it. So keep your culture. He ain’t taking your kid anywhere he is a lying sack of 💩
Great coach. Even better human.
Ya sure buddy
Suck it bud.
That’s your job bud. Isn’t that how you got on the team.
[/quote]

You’re coach is horrible don’t be angry no one showed up.
[/quote]

Who’s on VK heard no one showed up for tryouts? All the OMHA kids stayed home after they watched that psycho coach lose his shit at in the OHL cup. Is this true?
[/quote]

Facts.
[/quote]

SK will take over VK as he will be unemployed after tonight.
[/quote]

Yes SK will takeover as his son signed to VK. Must be nice to have connections with big daddy
[/quote]

Can’t win with the best players in the league. Doubt he will be able to help a bunch of plugs. Wasn’t his kid AS last year?
[/quote]

What’s going on in TM land? Players already de-committing just days after signing
[/quote]

New rankings
Mm
Ms
Jrc
Vk
Reps
Dm
Tm
Nyr
Nats
TT
Trw
Rebs
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MM
JRC
TM
MS
REPS
DMF
TRW
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TT
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After seeing the additions added to each roster for this season the above rankings are very accurate.
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MM
SENS
TM
JRC
DMF
REPS
VK
TRW
NATS
TT
REB
NYR

SCREEN SHOT THIS DICKHEAD$ THIS IS REAL.
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So many hockey experts on here. You should all have shows on tsn.

Re: 2010 GTHL AAA

by Guest » Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:03 am

Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:58 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:54 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:39 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:05 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:57 am
Guest wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:39 pm 💯 accurate account of RA and his BS. Don’t understand why the same loser comes on here to support RA the garbage coach. He has won shite and his players all leave as well as his coaches. Doesn’t sound like a winning formula to me.
Development is far more important then winning some meaningless tournaments here and there. Plus great culture. Your coach hasn’t won sh!t either. And he’s an abusive fu$k. Best coaches develop hockey players.
Get your tongue out of his ass your embarrassing yourself. Great culture…Ok….becsuse your kid is a mediocre AA player and he promised to make your kid AAA. Hahaha your kid is irrelevant and RA has promised at least 8-10 AA kids to make into players and it’s only happened once with the kid from SYB. One that’s it. So keep your culture. He ain’t taking your kid anywhere he is a lying sack of 💩
Great coach. Even better human.
Ya sure buddy
Suck it bud.
[/quote]

That’s your job bud. Isn’t that how you got on the team.
[/quote]

You’re coach is horrible don’t be angry no one showed up.
[/quote]

Who’s on VK heard no one showed up for tryouts? All the OMHA kids stayed home after they watched that psycho coach lose his shit at in the OHL cup. Is this true?
[/quote]

Facts.
[/quote]

SK will take over VK as he will be unemployed after tonight.
[/quote]

Yes SK will takeover as his son signed to VK. Must be nice to have connections with big daddy
[/quote]

Can’t win with the best players in the league. Doubt he will be able to help a bunch of plugs. Wasn’t his kid AS last year?
[/quote]

What’s going on in TM land? Players already de-committing just days after signing
[/quote]

New rankings
Mm
Ms
Jrc
Vk
Reps
Dm
Tm
Nyr
Nats
TT
Trw
Rebs
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MM
JRC
TM
MS
REPS
DMF
TRW
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NATS

After seeing the additions added to each roster for this season the above rankings are very accurate.
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MM
SENS
TM
JRC
DMF
REPS
VK
TRW
NATS
TT
REB
NYR

SCREEN SHOT THIS DICKHEAD$ THIS IS REAL.

Re: 2010 GTHL AAA

by Guest » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:58 am

Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:54 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:39 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:05 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:57 am
Guest wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:39 pm 💯 accurate account of RA and his BS. Don’t understand why the same loser comes on here to support RA the garbage coach. He has won shite and his players all leave as well as his coaches. Doesn’t sound like a winning formula to me.
Development is far more important then winning some meaningless tournaments here and there. Plus great culture. Your coach hasn’t won sh!t either. And he’s an abusive fu$k. Best coaches develop hockey players.
Get your tongue out of his ass your embarrassing yourself. Great culture…Ok….becsuse your kid is a mediocre AA player and he promised to make your kid AAA. Hahaha your kid is irrelevant and RA has promised at least 8-10 AA kids to make into players and it’s only happened once with the kid from SYB. One that’s it. So keep your culture. He ain’t taking your kid anywhere he is a lying sack of 💩
Great coach. Even better human.
Ya sure buddy
[/quote]

Suck it bud.
[/quote]

That’s your job bud. Isn’t that how you got on the team.
[/quote]

You’re coach is horrible don’t be angry no one showed up.
[/quote]

Who’s on VK heard no one showed up for tryouts? All the OMHA kids stayed home after they watched that psycho coach lose his shit at in the OHL cup. Is this true?
[/quote]

Facts.
[/quote]

SK will take over VK as he will be unemployed after tonight.
[/quote]

Yes SK will takeover as his son signed to VK. Must be nice to have connections with big daddy
[/quote]

Can’t win with the best players in the league. Doubt he will be able to help a bunch of plugs. Wasn’t his kid AS last year?
[/quote]

What’s going on in TM land? Players already de-committing just days after signing
[/quote]

New rankings
Mm
Ms
Jrc
Vk
Reps
Dm
Tm
Nyr
Nats
TT
Trw
Rebs
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MM
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TM
MS
REPS
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After seeing the additions added to each roster for this season the above rankings are very accurate.

Re: 2010 GTHL AAA

by Guest » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:54 am

Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:39 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:05 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:57 am
Guest wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:39 pm 💯 accurate account of RA and his BS. Don’t understand why the same loser comes on here to support RA the garbage coach. He has won shite and his players all leave as well as his coaches. Doesn’t sound like a winning formula to me.
Development is far more important then winning some meaningless tournaments here and there. Plus great culture. Your coach hasn’t won sh!t either. And he’s an abusive fu$k. Best coaches develop hockey players.
Get your tongue out of his ass your embarrassing yourself. Great culture…Ok….becsuse your kid is a mediocre AA player and he promised to make your kid AAA. Hahaha your kid is irrelevant and RA has promised at least 8-10 AA kids to make into players and it’s only happened once with the kid from SYB. One that’s it. So keep your culture. He ain’t taking your kid anywhere he is a lying sack of 💩
Great coach. Even better human.
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Ya sure buddy
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Suck it bud.
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That’s your job bud. Isn’t that how you got on the team.
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You’re coach is horrible don’t be angry no one showed up.
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Who’s on VK heard no one showed up for tryouts? All the OMHA kids stayed home after they watched that psycho coach lose his shit at in the OHL cup. Is this true?
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Facts.
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SK will take over VK as he will be unemployed after tonight.
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Yes SK will takeover as his son signed to VK. Must be nice to have connections with big daddy
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Can’t win with the best players in the league. Doubt he will be able to help a bunch of plugs. Wasn’t his kid AS last year?
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What’s going on in TM land? Players already de-committing just days after signing
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Wowzerrs . I would expect a post like this maybe round 2am but mid day ……..
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He drinks 24/7 now.
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Tell me your from VK without telling me your from Vk.

These are the affects of alcohol abuse.

Re: 2010 GTHL AAA

by Guest » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:39 am

Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:05 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:57 am
Guest wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:39 pm 💯 accurate account of RA and his BS. Don’t understand why the same loser comes on here to support RA the garbage coach. He has won shite and his players all leave as well as his coaches. Doesn’t sound like a winning formula to me.
Development is far more important then winning some meaningless tournaments here and there. Plus great culture. Your coach hasn’t won sh!t either. And he’s an abusive fu$k. Best coaches develop hockey players.
Get your tongue out of his ass your embarrassing yourself. Great culture…Ok….becsuse your kid is a mediocre AA player and he promised to make your kid AAA. Hahaha your kid is irrelevant and RA has promised at least 8-10 AA kids to make into players and it’s only happened once with the kid from SYB. One that’s it. So keep your culture. He ain’t taking your kid anywhere he is a lying sack of 💩
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Great coach. Even better human.
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Ya sure buddy
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Suck it bud.
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That’s your job bud. Isn’t that how you got on the team.
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You’re coach is horrible don’t be angry no one showed up.
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Who’s on VK heard no one showed up for tryouts? All the OMHA kids stayed home after they watched that psycho coach lose his shit at in the OHL cup. Is this true?
[/quote]

Facts.
[/quote]

SK will take over VK as he will be unemployed after tonight.
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Yes SK will takeover as his son signed to VK. Must be nice to have connections with big daddy
[/quote]

Can’t win with the best players in the league. Doubt he will be able to help a bunch of plugs. Wasn’t his kid AS last year?
[/quote]

What’s going on in TM land? Players already de-committing just days after signing
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New rankings
Mm
Ms
Jrc
Vk
Reps
Dm
Tm
Nyr
Nats
TT
Trw
Rebs
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Wowzerrs . I would expect a post like this maybe round 2am but mid day ……..
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He drinks 24/7 now.
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Tell me your from VK without telling me your from Vk.

Embarrassing list, let the season start.
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Stop embarrassing yourself by telling us you know nothing about hockey. From JrC actually.

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