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Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:58 am ....When the GTHL allows an 08 who was kicked out of a US Bishop Kearney and returns to the GTHL with no concerns despite the incident at BK......

Why was he kicked out? I am guessing by the post it was behaviour?

Kicked out for a horrible incident and returned to the GTHL and no one batted an eye.
Then played in the U16 All Star

IS that a role model for young GTHL players to look up to?

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Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 2:23 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:09 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:58 am ....When the GTHL allows an 08 who was kicked out of a US Bishop Kearney and returns to the GTHL with no concerns despite the incident at BK......

Why was he kicked out? I am guessing by the post it was behaviour?

Kicked out for a horrible incident and returned to the GTHL and no one batted an eye.
Then played in the U16 All Star

IS that a role model for young GTHL players to look up to?

Guys .. please see the forest through the trees.

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Guest wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:25 pm

100%

Hockey in the GTA needs a complete overhaul. Out with the old, in with the new.

Come on .. you are completely wrong with the G. A huge step under Oakman in getting costs down and corruption out of the league. Less private ownership and much more diverse boards across associations. This is leading to teams posting budgets on public websites .. yes, complete transparency. If you have a paid coach, fee right there on a public website. If you host a tournament, all revenues and expenses clearly identified. Yes, Hockey Canada drives some of the decisions .. however, the G is making sure their leagues are balanced, diverse and consistent experience across 'like' ability players and age groups. People on here don't have a balanced perspective.

He's been there for too long. They need to set a 4 year maximum term for his job. As well as an outside independent board member.

Good point around change and term for a job like this one. However, don't underestimate the work the Oakman has done in making the G more competitive and teams more balanced, driving diversity to all Association Boards that represent G teams, removing unnecessary costs and corruption that existed prior to his term and most importantly stabilizing participation rates in this great game. Thank you, Oakman!

This must be written by someone at the G office or by SO's wife.
This league is twice the cost of any other league in the province. The corruption is still as rampant today as it ever was. The coaches, orgs and league have just gotten better at hiding it.
In our loop alone this year, one AAA coach (that I know of) got caught playing a suspended player in a tournament with another kids jersey on. G didn't even suspend him because it was an 'accident'.
Recently, a coach was caught fighting with parents from another team and a gun was involved. The G suspended him the rest of the season, but the league and the Org are letting him come back next year to be the head coach again.
I can name at least 4 AAA teams in the loop that have one or two parents running the team, the coach is nothing but a figurehead.
And only 6 of the 14 teams (if that many) in this AAA age group are viable AAA teams, the rest are AA teams charging AAA rates and losing lots of games.
The G has now become the NYHL, a bloated, corrupt, shadow of its former self where money talks louder than the kids who want to play the game. The G is a business, pure and simple, they have no interest in making the game better or making the league better because money is the motivator for the coaches, orgs and the league.
They are simply following the Hockey Canada model that has been so successful.

Are you kidding me? Corruption up? This is not true. When was the last time you heard a coach on the take? Association get taken by its volunteers? Manager taking a cut on buying ices times or SWAG? All of that has disappeared with posting of budgets and transparency to all costs. You guys are just not posting facts.
Also, yes, teams cross the line around playing suspended player, getting into heated arguments but now the G immediately calls an investigation, gets to the bottom of it and makes a call. You may not like the call but they make the call.
Take a look at your own boards .. are they not now filled with much more diversity, younger, female, ethnic. Yes, they are. Do they have less people with active playing kids in the association .. yes they do.
As for Money, the ware on costs is a long one. It has started taking the corruption out of budgets but now has to move to other areas like more volunteering, G working with city on ice time costs, limits to tournaments per team, and culture of less SWAG items per team. This is finding its way but will take another couple of years.

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Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:22 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:11 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:54 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:28 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:27 pm

Come on .. you are completely wrong with the G. A huge step under Oakman in getting costs down and corruption out of the league. Less private ownership and much more diverse boards across associations. This is leading to teams posting budgets on public websites .. yes, complete transparency. If you have a paid coach, fee right there on a public website. If you host a tournament, all revenues and expenses clearly identified. Yes, Hockey Canada drives some of the decisions .. however, the G is making sure their leagues are balanced, diverse and consistent experience across 'like' ability players and age groups. People on here don't have a balanced perspective.

He's been there for too long. They need to set a 4 year maximum term for his job. As well as an outside independent board member.

Good point around change and term for a job like this one. However, don't underestimate the work the Oakman has done in making the G more competitive and teams more balanced, driving diversity to all Association Boards that represent G teams, removing unnecessary costs and corruption that existed prior to his term and most importantly stabilizing participation rates in this great game. Thank you, Oakman!

This must be written by someone at the G office or by SO's wife.
This league is twice the cost of any other league in the province. The corruption is still as rampant today as it ever was. The coaches, orgs and league have just gotten better at hiding it.
In our loop alone this year, one AAA coach (that I know of) got caught playing a suspended player in a tournament with another kids jersey on. G didn't even suspend him because it was an 'accident'.
Recently, a coach was caught fighting with parents from another team and a gun was involved. The G suspended him the rest of the season, but the league and the Org are letting him come back next year to be the head coach again.
I can name at least 4 AAA teams in the loop that have one or two parents running the team, the coach is nothing but a figurehead.
And only 6 of the 14 teams (if that many) in this AAA age group are viable AAA teams, the rest are AA teams charging AAA rates and losing lots of games.
The G has now become the NYHL, a bloated, corrupt, shadow of its former self where money talks louder than the kids who want to play the game. The G is a business, pure and simple, they have no interest in making the game better or making the league better because money is the motivator for the coaches, orgs and the league.
They are simply following the Hockey Canada model that has been so successful.

Are you kidding me? Corruption up? This is not true. When was the last time you heard a coach on the take? Association get taken by its volunteers? Manager taking a cut on buying ices times or SWAG? All of that has disappeared with posting of budgets and transparency to all costs. You guys are just not posting facts.
Also, yes, teams cross the line around playing suspended player, getting into heated arguments but now the G immediately calls an investigation, gets to the bottom of it and makes a call. You may not like the call but they make the call.
Take a look at your own boards .. are they not now filled with much more diversity, younger, female, ethnic. Yes, they are. Do they have less people with active playing kids in the association .. yes they do.
As for Money, the ware on costs is a long one. It has started taking the corruption out of budgets but now has to move to other areas like more volunteering, G working with city on ice time costs, limits to tournaments per team, and culture of less SWAG items per team. This is finding its way but will take another couple of years.

I’d like to know who wrote this. Seems like the G’s media department.
Love how they ignored the fact that they are allowing the coach with a gun to continue to coach children.
And all the money is hidden until found. Just like with HC last year. The corruption is rampant but it’s not on the books so it doesn’t exist.
Either the people who are running the show are ignorant to what’s going on at the coaching level or they are turning a blind eye. Whatever it is, they are ignoring the truth and pretending that they’ve made things better.
Both are sad for the state of hockey. I think it’s time for some changes in how the G regulates their members.

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:56 pm all the people upset here and b1tching and crying wish they were Scott Oakman

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:11 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:54 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:28 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:27 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:25 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:12 pm

Spoken like a true lackey. Our team financials surpassed 190k this year without anything extra. 2 yrs ago, we were 100k. So my math shows that while the G fee dropped temporarily by what 50.00?, our team fees almost doubled. For coaches who are on the take, families buying letters and other shady dealings.
So the only direction the G is headed, is further down the toilet.
A full and complete independent audit with a board and exec overhaul is needed. This is not non profit hockey and it's time HC and CRA stepped in.

100%

Hockey in the GTA needs a complete overhaul. Out with the old, in with the new.

Come on .. you are completely wrong with the G. A huge step under Oakman in getting costs down and corruption out of the league. Less private ownership and much more diverse boards across associations. This is leading to teams posting budgets on public websites .. yes, complete transparency. If you have a paid coach, fee right there on a public website. If you host a tournament, all revenues and expenses clearly identified. Yes, Hockey Canada drives some of the decisions .. however, the G is making sure their leagues are balanced, diverse and consistent experience across 'like' ability players and age groups. People on here don't have a balanced perspective.

He's been there for too long. They need to set a 4 year maximum term for his job. As well as an outside independent board member.

Good point around change and term for a job like this one. However, don't underestimate the work the Oakman has done in making the G more competitive and teams more balanced, driving diversity to all Association Boards that represent G teams, removing unnecessary costs and corruption that existed prior to his term and most importantly stabilizing participation rates in this great game. Thank you, Oakman!

This must be written by someone at the G office or by SO's wife.
This league is twice the cost of any other league in the province. The corruption is still as rampant today as it ever was. The coaches, orgs and league have just gotten better at hiding it.
In our loop alone this year, one AAA coach (that I know of) got caught playing a suspended player in a tournament with another kids jersey on. G didn't even suspend him because it was an 'accident'.
Recently, a coach was caught fighting with parents from another team and a gun was involved. The G suspended him the rest of the season, but the league and the Org are letting him come back next year to be the head coach again.
I can name at least 4 AAA teams in the loop that have one or two parents running the team, the coach is nothing but a figurehead.
And only 6 of the 14 teams (if that many) in this AAA age group are viable AAA teams, the rest are AA teams charging AAA rates and losing lots of games.
The G has now become the NYHL, a bloated, corrupt, shadow of its former self where money talks louder than the kids who want to play the game. The G is a business, pure and simple, they have no interest in making the game better or making the league better because money is the motivator for the coaches, orgs and the league.
They are simply following the Hockey Canada model that has been so successful.