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Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:59 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:21 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:12 pm Here is my beef with SO and the GTHL. Our team is facing it right now. The G has taken away the Founders as well as the Clancy Tournament. That is fine, as long as you create playoffs for all teams. Why on earth in a 9 team division only 6 qualify??? What happens to the other 3 teams that don't qualify? Yes, team starts to fold, not show for practice, no interest in one of the weak March tourneys. If you take away Clancy .. then expand playoffs to 8 teams. Have a consolation playdown? The reality is that all teams pay the same G Fees so should have close to the same games, INCLUDING PLAYOFFS. This is now happened back to back years. I have written to the G, written to Oakman and only heard 'under advisement'. Nothing has happened. Thoughts?

Kinda see some of your point. Some age groups do have 8 is the playoffs. All depends on level of play and number of overall teams in the division.
Same argument about game numbers could be made by those divisions with 6 teams, and 1 & 2 get a bye first round of playoffs. Maybe those parents would rather have kids playing to get what they paid for?

Tourneys were dropped both from a $$$ and from history, where many teams elected not to play. Basically out of the playoffs, everyone is too busy trying to find that last remaining spot of a better team. No one cares about the current team anymore, thus G would have to cancel divisions anyway due to the lack of entry. I'm guessing a big headache.

Simple things like AA tiering need to stop. If you have some many teams you need to tier a division, that means what you need to do is start relegating teams. Drop all the AA tier 2 teams into the A division. Models like that will have the teams quickly figure out they need to win or go away.

If your overall argument is everyone should get the same number of games, then find a good house league program. They keep it even.
It will never be fair when some teams win and advance into further playoff rounds, just the way it is.
G will tell you how many games you will get for your entry fee. There is no guarantee that you will get bonus games come playoff time.

G & Oakman never respond to anything. Under advisement is the standard go away answer.

Get rid of him.

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:01 pm As an ex GT-NHL official the standard response was either "I am here for the kids" and/or "call the office"

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:07 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:01 pm As an ex GT-NHL official the standard response was either "I am here for the kids" and/or "call the office"

So just deflect every time
Got it

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:16 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:43 pm Because it’s such a small world is exactly why (unfortunately) the government needs to step in and take over. Hockey CANADA down have failed their customers - the hard-working kids and parent sponsors. Fortunately HC & the leagues are recipients of taxpayer $$$ and that opens the door wider for intervention. Many parents are writing to the provincial and federal committees. Another one was recently announced. An anti-trust lawsuit against the CHL was filed in New York about a week ago.
The old boys club isn’t going to like all the noise but then they’re not the customer are they?

GOV should not take over anything. The best way to put the final nail in hockey in Canada, would be for the GOV to be in charge.

If the FED GOV takes over HC rep hockey would be eliminated, and the national teams would have to meet the DEI quota's, once again places being filled on equality metrics not by most skilled.

I agree that HC should not be funded by taxpayers. But it should not just be hockey, it should be for all sports programs. Let those that play the sports pay for the operation of the sport. The funding should be re-deployed to Olympic level training programs.

Not that any of this fixes the Oakman issue. GTHL could be fixed by just dissolving all existing AAA & AA organizations. Then only having those programs run out of the local hockey associations that are required to have full stack offerings or levels (AAA, AA, A & HL). Yes creates new challenges, but rids the G of the team ownership model and hockey GTHL hockey could survive it...... but many of the parents reading this will grasp their chest at the concept, adults can't handle change, even when kids don't know the difference.