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Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:41 pm "If that was colour-related, how is it that Wayne Simmonds spent just about the same 12 seasons playing in the NHL?"

what a stupid question to ask... did they both play for the same teams, with the same coaches, and same GM's, in the same years??

nope - so the question has zero merit.

you cherrypicked one player who had a stable career. You conveniently forgot to mention that when Simmonds was asked a couple of years ago if he would put his kids in hockey. He said he wasn't sure because of the level of racism in the sport.

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:27 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:41 pm "If that was colour-related, how is it that Wayne Simmonds spent just about the same 12 seasons playing in the NHL?"

what a stupid question to ask... did they both play for the same teams, with the same coaches, and same GM's, in the same years??

nope - so the question has zero merit.

you cherrypicked one player who had a stable career. You conveniently forgot to mention that when Simmonds was asked a couple of years ago if he would put his kids in hockey. He said he wasn't sure because of the level of racism in the sport.

YUP - but Aliu had 22 different pro teams in 12 different leagues covering 6 different countries give him the chance to play - to earn his spot and keep it........

After 22 different teams you have to ask the question and figure out the common denominator.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:41 pm "If that was colour-related, how is it that Wayne Simmonds spent just about the same 12 seasons playing in the NHL?"

what a stupid question to ask... did they both play for the same teams, with the same coaches, and same GM's, in the same years??

nope - so the question has zero merit.

you cherrypicked one player who had a stable career. You conveniently forgot to mention that when Simmonds was asked a couple of years ago if he would put his kids in hockey. He said he wasn't sure because of the level of racism in the sport.

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:00 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:41 pm "If that was colour-related, how is it that Wayne Simmonds spent just about the same 12 seasons playing in the NHL?"

what a stupid question to ask... did they both play for the same teams, with the same coaches, and same GM's, in the same years??

nope - so the question has zero merit.

you cherrypicked one player who had a stable career. You conveniently forgot to mention that when Simmonds was asked a couple of years ago if he would put his kids in hockey. He said he wasn't sure because of the level of racism in the sport.

"you cherrypicked one player" - do you honestly think you're communicating with the guy who wrote the article?

Would it have made a difference if the reporter provided a list of 20 players who overcame racism and had stable careers?

I think his point is that Aliu is presenting himself as some sort of Martyr and all that went wrong with his career was due to his ethnicity. Meanwhile the truth is that Aliu peaked in the OHL and he had a bad attitude. Guy who are difficult to get along with don't stay in one place for long.

For the record - racism is wrong. But to suggest that "hockey culture" is racist is ridiculous. Yes, there are some players who may be true racist, but they do not represent the majority.

Hockey Diversity Alliance wants to change the face of the game.

Sidney Crosby, Conner McDavid, Mario Limieux, Wayne Gretzky and Steve Yzerman are all Canadian faces of the game...is Aliu suggesting that they are all racist? That they need to be cancelled and erased from the history books, because they represent a racist culture?

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:10 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:00 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:41 pm "If that was colour-related, how is it that Wayne Simmonds spent just about the same 12 seasons playing in the NHL?"

what a stupid question to ask... did they both play for the same teams, with the same coaches, and same GM's, in the same years??

nope - so the question has zero merit.

you cherrypicked one player who had a stable career. You conveniently forgot to mention that when Simmonds was asked a couple of years ago if he would put his kids in hockey. He said he wasn't sure because of the level of racism in the sport.

"you cherrypicked one player" - do you honestly think you're communicating with the guy who wrote the article?

Would it have made a difference if the reporter provided a list of 20 players who overcame racism and had stable careers?

I think his point is that Aliu is presenting himself as some sort of Martyr and all that went wrong with his career was due to his ethnicity. Meanwhile the truth is that Aliu peaked in the OHL and he had a bad attitude. Guy who are difficult to get along with don't stay in one place for long.

For the record - racism is wrong. But to suggest that "hockey culture" is racist is ridiculous. Yes, there are some players who may be true racist, but they do not represent the majority.

Hockey Diversity Alliance wants to change the face of the game.

Sidney Crosby, Conner McDavid, Mario Limieux, Wayne Gretzky and Steve Yzerman are all Canadian faces of the game...is Aliu suggesting that they are all racist? That they need to be cancelled and erased from the history books, because they represent a racist culture?

There are plenty of white players who have played in all kinds of different countries, teams leagues as well. I guess they didn't make the NHL because of racism as well?

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:24 pm Leafs won't give Robertson a chance...is TML organization racist?

did you miss the part where current Leaf Wayne Simmonds said that he'd have to think hard about putting his kids in hockey because of the racism??

Not saying this of the Leaf organization - He's talking about hockey culture.