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Guest wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:17 am There are not many coaches that are qualified to #1 identify talent and cultivate talent.
yes coaches can see he is Good, but identifying whats wrong with his skating, how he reads the ice etc and how to fix it is rare.

Most coaches will just cut and replace rather than develop kids with deficiencies. I have seen 1 or 2 hockey coaches who are ELITE and what they said to me is gospel, the rest are used car salesman.
Kids with glaring deficiencies at this age have limited potential.expecting coaches to invest years of time into a kid who likely won’t ever be special is not realistic.
Why waste your money trying to make your Honda Civic go fast when you can just get a Corvette?
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Guest wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:17 am There are not many coaches that are qualified to #1 identify talent and cultivate talent.
yes coaches can see he is Good, but identifying whats wrong with his skating, how he reads the ice etc and how to fix it is rare.

Most coaches will just cut and replace rather than develop kids with deficiencies. I have seen 1 or 2 hockey coaches who are ELITE and what they said to me is gospel, the rest are used car salesman.
If you don’t think there are coaches who can’t correct bad skating then you don’t know where to look. Most kids just can’t see the ice well and that’s why they don’t stand out. You can help them see it better but they either get it or they don’t.
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Guest wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:17 am There are not many coaches that are qualified to #1 identify talent and cultivate talent.
yes coaches can see he is Good, but identifying whats wrong with his skating, how he reads the ice etc and how to fix it is rare.

Most coaches will just cut and replace rather than develop kids with deficiencies. I have seen 1 or 2 hockey coaches who are ELITE and what they said to me is gospel, the rest are used car salesman.
This guy is a lemming. I bet the two coaches who’s word he treats as gospel are the ones who lied and said his kid had a future in hockey, every other coach who told him the truth he thinks is a used car salesman. There’s a sucker born every minute.
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The kids who are elite and on top teams deserve it. They work their ass off.

But I think the point is The top 3 F and top 1 D from any team “ranked 4-10 are prob better than the bottom 4F and bottom 2D on teams ranked 1-4.

just most of those top kids from bottom teams now didn’t have hype at younger ages.. Nor should they have, At 9. Or 10 The other kids were better. But not now.

Now the elite of the elite in the top 4. Still are excellent. But The rest are just kids like the top kids from teams 4-10

Top kids on teams 4-10 don’t have other elite kids work with. Their Great players who have to work harder to generate.

Now it’s true, many of those nobodies at 9 and 10 yrs old may still not be elite yet. But they’re easily better than many of the kids on top 4 teams

The hard workers could easily could play up on top teams. But they would have to take a back seat to those who yes for now Are elite or the weaker kids whose parents have relationships with the coach or whom finance. So they continue to work in silence.
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Guest wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:30 am The kids who are elite and on top teams deserve it. They work their ass off.

But I think the point is The top 3 F and top 1 D from any team “ranked 4-10 are prob better than the bottom 4F and bottom 2D on teams ranked 1-4.

just most of those top kids from bottom teams now didn’t have hype at younger ages.. Nor should they have, At 9. Or 10 The other kids were better. But not now.

Now the elite of the elite in the top 4. Still are excellent. But The rest are just kids like the top kids from teams 4-10

Top kids on teams 4-10 don’t have other elite kids work with. Their Great players who have to work harder to generate.

Now it’s true, many of those nobodies at 9 and 10 yrs old may still not be elite yet. But they’re easily better than many of the kids on top 4 teams

The hard workers could easily could play up on top teams. But they would have to take a back seat to those who yes for now Are elite or the weaker kids whose parents have relationships with the coach or whom finance. So they continue to work in silence.
There aren’t that many hidden gems and the hard workers you mention lack the skills to compete at top levels. You seem to think that kids who can’t make top teams now are guaranteed to be late bloomers while the good kids will all fade. That’s not how life works.

The fact is that all of the talent accumulates on a few teams, and that’s it. The kids who can’t make those teams don’t have the athleticism to do so, no matter how much you train them or how much money spend.

There are many teams in the league like DMF who don’t have a single player who could make the roster of any top 3 team.

That’s just the way it is.
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Guest wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:42 am
Guest wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:30 am The kids who are elite and on top teams deserve it. They work their ass off.

But I think the point is The top 3 F and top 1 D from any team “ranked 4-10 are prob better than the bottom 4F and bottom 2D on teams ranked 1-4.

just most of those top kids from bottom teams now didn’t have hype at younger ages.. Nor should they have, At 9. Or 10 The other kids were better. But not now.

Now the elite of the elite in the top 4. Still are excellent. But The rest are just kids like the top kids from teams 4-10

Top kids on teams 4-10 don’t have other elite kids work with. Their Great players who have to work harder to generate.

Now it’s true, many of those nobodies at 9 and 10 yrs old may still not be elite yet. But they’re easily better than many of the kids on top 4 teams

The hard workers could easily could play up on top teams. But they would have to take a back seat to those who yes for now Are elite or the weaker kids whose parents have relationships with the coach or whom finance. So they continue to work in silence.
There aren’t that many hidden gems and the hard workers you mention lack the skills to compete at top levels. You seem to think that kids who can’t make top teams now are guaranteed to be late bloomers while the good kids will all fade. That’s not how life works.

The fact is that all of the talent accumulates on a few teams, and that’s it. The kids who can’t make those teams don’t have the athleticism to do so, no matter how much you train them or how much money spend.

There are many teams in the league like DMF who don’t have a single player who could make the roster of any top 3 team.

That’s just the way it is.
Look at a team like the rebels their top forwards are all kids who got cut by top teams because they weren’t good enough. That proves your theory wrong right there.
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Respectfully I disagree- u mean to say their are not players on top teams who are their because of relationships or donations vs merit.

Easily so man top kids on lower ranked teams who are better than bottom kids on top teams.

Why would a top kid leave first line minutes on a lower ranked team to play bottom minutes. Ur logic is flawed.
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Guest wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:52 am Respectfully I disagree- u mean to say their are not players on top teams who are their because of relationships or donations vs merit.

Easily so man top kids on lower ranked teams who are better than bottom kids on top teams.

Why would a top kid leave first line minutes on a lower ranked team to play bottom minutes. Ur logic is flawed.
There are a few who are there by politics , there always are. But saying all top 4 forwards on 4-10 place teams are better than bottom 4 on top 3 teams is wildly inaccurate. There might be a handful of players in total where that is true but that’s all. Provide examples if you’re so confident.
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No need to call out players. Serves no purpose. This is not to attack anyone. Just healthy discussion.

for the first time in years this is interesting respectful dialogue. Everyone playing AAA in the G deserves a lot of credit.

I think all can prob all agree it’s easier to hide your diminishing skills on a top team where u get lots of W’s/ receive great unselfish passes from great kids, get tons of saves ….

Vs.

Trying to standout out as a top player on a lower ranked team where perhaps you’re not surrounded by the same talent pool.

Just food for thought. Lots of kids not on the top 3 teams will also go far if not farther than many who are.

Best of luck to all.
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Big game tonight TYN vs VK
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