You're wrong, it's 27% who play Jr. A or higherGuest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:09 amOn average 10 players per birth year make an OHL team another 30 from the same birth year make a CCHL team. that makes 40 out of 85 therefore 47%. I do not count the players that make the Q.or move to other Jr A leagues. I am sure I could find 3 more to make it 50%. If you do not like my facts do the work yourself and prove me wrong.Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:57 pmNope, only 27% make those levelsGuest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:17 pmOver 50% 0f HEO AAA players will play Major Jr and Jr A. The rest might play Jr BGuest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:26 pmShow me some facts-I'd love to see them.
The only fact we have is that HEO has failed to develop players during the most significant and impactful time in their development process. Too bad we didn't have better leadership to handle this issue at the Branch, league, AAA, AA, team and association levels to properly address this black eye on minor hockey here. The solution is evident, apparent, easily identified, already in place in private options, yet ignored by those in decision making positions in minor hockey in HEO.
It's quite frankly pathetic. Go, use your "alleged" stats to prove literally nothing. You actually prove my point, perhaps I should thank you.
HEO AAA develops players.
Ottawa U18 2022/23 Season
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Re: Ottawa U18 2022/23 Season
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Re: Ottawa U18 2022/23 Season
What colour is the sky in your world?Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:38 amYou're wrong, it's 27% who play Jr. A or higherGuest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:09 amOn average 10 players per birth year make an OHL team another 30 from the same birth year make a CCHL team. that makes 40 out of 85 therefore 47%. I do not count the players that make the Q.or move to other Jr A leagues. I am sure I could find 3 more to make it 50%. If you do not like my facts do the work yourself and prove me wrong.Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:57 pmNope, only 27% make those levelsGuest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:17 pmOver 50% 0f HEO AAA players will play Major Jr and Jr A. The rest might play Jr BGuest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:26 pmShow me some facts-I'd love to see them.
The only fact we have is that HEO has failed to develop players during the most significant and impactful time in their development process. Too bad we didn't have better leadership to handle this issue at the Branch, league, AAA, AA, team and association levels to properly address this black eye on minor hockey here. The solution is evident, apparent, easily identified, already in place in private options, yet ignored by those in decision making positions in minor hockey in HEO.
It's quite frankly pathetic. Go, use your "alleged" stats to prove literally nothing. You actually prove my point, perhaps I should thank you.
HEO AAA develops players.
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Re: Ottawa U18 2022/23 Season
Your numbers are off by a mile!!! LOLGuest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:16 amThis is what did I for 8 years when the CCHL ran U18.Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:26 pmShow me some facts-I'd love to see them.
The only fact we have is that HEO has failed to develop players during the most significant and impactful time in their development process. Too bad we didn't have better leadership to handle this issue at the Branch, league, AAA, AA, team and association levels to properly address this black eye on minor hockey here. The solution is evident, apparent, easily identified, already in place in private options, yet ignored by those in decision making positions in minor hockey in HEO.
It's quite frankly pathetic. Go, use your "alleged" stats to prove literally nothing. You actually prove my point, perhaps I should thank you.
Using CCHL website and elite hockey website. I looked up every player listed on every CCHL team found out where they played their minor hockey and used that data to come up with the number of HEO players in the CCHL.
The year before CCHL U18 the CCHL had 49% of its players were from the HEO area during the CCHL U18 reign that percentage dropped to 29%. The number of players that left the HEO area to play hockey elsewhere increased every year to a high of about 16 last year (U16 only). That number has dropped to 4 that I am aware of (U16 only) for this year. CCHL U18 is dead. The kids did not leave the HEO area. This is a positive. CCHL is out of minor hockey this a positive.
IMO the CCHL is a good league that needs to increase its the local content, rid itself of some awful money first owners.
Further the CCHL, as per the demands at the time from local players and parents, was for it to increase it's caliber of play and ability to compete with other Jr. A leagues who sent more players to NCAA D1. Yes the CCHL did have more local players, however the caliber of play was much worse. Other leagues such as the BCHL and AJHL, took the top players from as far as they could get. They were making progress, and the CCHL was left behind.
Local parents "think" their little stars are better than they are, and DEMAND more representation at the CCHL level. They want to force this in, and will be met with more failure. HEO has utterly failed at properly developing players to be good enough to play at the next level. It's so glaringly obvious and spoken about openly-in the right circles-it's sad it needs to be said again.
Having an HEO run U18AAA league will drive down the amount of local players good enough for the next level. The quality of play at current HEO U18AAA camps is horrible! There's no denying it, it's brutal. This will "hurt" HEO players, and their performance at "showcase" tournaments will further bring down the perception of the low caliber of player coming out of HEO.
HEO run U18AAA is not a positive at all. U18AAA is essentially dead. MORE kids will leave HEO as a result.
The CCHL should never force feed local players into it's league, if they are not GOOD ENOUGH to win a spot over others. That's ridiculous! IF they do this, MORE players will continue to leave at an exponential rate.
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Re: Ottawa U18 2022/23 Season
Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:59 amWhat colour is the sky in your world?Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:38 amYou're wrong, it's 27% who play Jr. A or higherGuest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:09 amOn average 10 players per birth year make an OHL team another 30 from the same birth year make a CCHL team. that makes 40 out of 85 therefore 47%. I do not count the players that make the Q.or move to other Jr A leagues. I am sure I could find 3 more to make it 50%. If you do not like my facts do the work yourself and prove me wrong.Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:57 pmNope, only 27% make those levelsGuest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:17 pmOver 50% 0f HEO AAA players will play Major Jr and Jr A. The rest might play Jr BGuest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:26 pm
Show me some facts-I'd love to see them.
The only fact we have is that HEO has failed to develop players during the most significant and impactful time in their development process. Too bad we didn't have better leadership to handle this issue at the Branch, league, AAA, AA, team and association levels to properly address this black eye on minor hockey here. The solution is evident, apparent, easily identified, already in place in private options, yet ignored by those in decision making positions in minor hockey in HEO.
It's quite frankly pathetic. Go, use your "alleged" stats to prove literally nothing. You actually prove my point, perhaps I should thank you.
HEO AAA develops players.
Prove me wrong
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Re: Ottawa U18 2022/23 Season
Your corporate history sucks. More CCHL players got D1 commitments before the start of CCHL U18 8 years ago. There were more HEO players in CCHL than there are now.Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:10 amYour numbers are off by a mile!!! LOLGuest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:16 amThis is what did I for 8 years when the CCHL ran U18.Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:26 pmShow me some facts-I'd love to see them.
The only fact we have is that HEO has failed to develop players during the most significant and impactful time in their development process. Too bad we didn't have better leadership to handle this issue at the Branch, league, AAA, AA, team and association levels to properly address this black eye on minor hockey here. The solution is evident, apparent, easily identified, already in place in private options, yet ignored by those in decision making positions in minor hockey in HEO.
It's quite frankly pathetic. Go, use your "alleged" stats to prove literally nothing. You actually prove my point, perhaps I should thank you.
Using CCHL website and elite hockey website. I looked up every player listed on every CCHL team found out where they played their minor hockey and used that data to come up with the number of HEO players in the CCHL.
The year before CCHL U18 the CCHL had 49% of its players were from the HEO area during the CCHL U18 reign that percentage dropped to 29%. The number of players that left the HEO area to play hockey elsewhere increased every year to a high of about 16 last year (U16 only). That number has dropped to 4 that I am aware of (U16 only) for this year. CCHL U18 is dead. The kids did not leave the HEO area. This is a positive. CCHL is out of minor hockey this a positive.
IMO the CCHL is a good league that needs to increase its the local content, rid itself of some awful money first owners.
Further the CCHL, as per the demands at the time from local players and parents, was for it to increase it's caliber of play and ability to compete with other Jr. A leagues who sent more players to NCAA D1. Yes the CCHL did have more local players, however the caliber of play was much worse. Other leagues such as the BCHL and AJHL, took the top players from as far as they could get. They were making progress, and the CCHL was left behind.
Local parents "think" their little stars are better than they are, and DEMAND more representation at the CCHL level. They want to force this in, and will be met with more failure. HEO has utterly failed at properly developing players to be good enough to play at the next level. It's so glaringly obvious and spoken about openly-in the right circles-it's sad it needs to be said again.
Having an HEO run U18AAA league will drive down the amount of local players good enough for the next level. The quality of play at current HEO U18AAA camps is horrible! There's no denying it, it's brutal. This will "hurt" HEO players, and their performance at "showcase" tournaments will further bring down the perception of the low caliber of player coming out of HEO.
HEO run U18AAA is not a positive at all. U18AAA is essentially dead. MORE kids will leave HEO as a result.
The CCHL should never force feed local players into it's league, if they are not GOOD ENOUGH to win a spot over others. That's ridiculous! IF they do this, MORE players will continue to leave at an exponential rate.
When the CCHL pick an all star team to play in HC events most players were HEO kids.
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Re: Ottawa U18 2022/23 Season
Newsflash. CCHL caliber is falling behind. It was far better 5 years ago. Strong players know they have other options.Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:10 amYour numbers are off by a mile!!! LOLGuest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:16 amThis is what did I for 8 years when the CCHL ran U18.Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:26 pmShow me some facts-I'd love to see them.
The only fact we have is that HEO has failed to develop players during the most significant and impactful time in their development process. Too bad we didn't have better leadership to handle this issue at the Branch, league, AAA, AA, team and association levels to properly address this black eye on minor hockey here. The solution is evident, apparent, easily identified, already in place in private options, yet ignored by those in decision making positions in minor hockey in HEO.
It's quite frankly pathetic. Go, use your "alleged" stats to prove literally nothing. You actually prove my point, perhaps I should thank you.
Using CCHL website and elite hockey website. I looked up every player listed on every CCHL team found out where they played their minor hockey and used that data to come up with the number of HEO players in the CCHL.
The year before CCHL U18 the CCHL had 49% of its players were from the HEO area during the CCHL U18 reign that percentage dropped to 29%. The number of players that left the HEO area to play hockey elsewhere increased every year to a high of about 16 last year (U16 only). That number has dropped to 4 that I am aware of (U16 only) for this year. CCHL U18 is dead. The kids did not leave the HEO area. This is a positive. CCHL is out of minor hockey this a positive.
IMO the CCHL is a good league that needs to increase its the local content, rid itself of some awful money first owners.
Further the CCHL, as per the demands at the time from local players and parents, was for it to increase it's caliber of play and ability to compete with other Jr. A leagues who sent more players to NCAA D1. Yes the CCHL did have more local players, however the caliber of play was much worse. Other leagues such as the BCHL and AJHL, took the top players from as far as they could get. They were making progress, and the CCHL was left behind.
Local parents "think" their little stars are better than they are, and DEMAND more representation at the CCHL level. They want to force this in, and will be met with more failure. HEO has utterly failed at properly developing players to be good enough to play at the next level. It's so glaringly obvious and spoken about openly-in the right circles-it's sad it needs to be said again.
Having an HEO run U18AAA league will drive down the amount of local players good enough for the next level. The quality of play at current HEO U18AAA camps is horrible! There's no denying it, it's brutal. This will "hurt" HEO players, and their performance at "showcase" tournaments will further bring down the perception of the low caliber of player coming out of HEO.
HEO run U18AAA is not a positive at all. U18AAA is essentially dead. MORE kids will leave HEO as a result.
The CCHL should never force feed local players into it's league, if they are not GOOD ENOUGH to win a spot over others. That's ridiculous! IF they do this, MORE players will continue to leave at an exponential rate.
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Re: Ottawa U18 2022/23 Season
I am tired of proving you wrong.Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:10 amGuest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:59 amWhat colour is the sky in your world?Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:38 amYou're wrong, it's 27% who play Jr. A or higherGuest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:09 amOn average 10 players per birth year make an OHL team another 30 from the same birth year make a CCHL team. that makes 40 out of 85 therefore 47%. I do not count the players that make the Q.or move to other Jr A leagues. I am sure I could find 3 more to make it 50%. If you do not like my facts do the work yourself and prove me wrong.
Prove me wrong
How many 2006's in OHL, CCHL
How many 2005's in OHL, CCHL
How many 2007's in OHL,CCHL
I have done the work you try it.
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Re: Ottawa U18 2022/23 Season
Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:24 amYour corporate history sucks. More CCHL players got D1 commitments before the start of CCHL U18 8 years ago. There were more HEO players in CCHL than there are now.Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:10 amYour numbers are off by a mile!!! LOLGuest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:16 amThis is what did I for 8 years when the CCHL ran U18.Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:26 pmShow me some facts-I'd love to see them.
The only fact we have is that HEO has failed to develop players during the most significant and impactful time in their development process. Too bad we didn't have better leadership to handle this issue at the Branch, league, AAA, AA, team and association levels to properly address this black eye on minor hockey here. The solution is evident, apparent, easily identified, already in place in private options, yet ignored by those in decision making positions in minor hockey in HEO.
It's quite frankly pathetic. Go, use your "alleged" stats to prove literally nothing. You actually prove my point, perhaps I should thank you.
Using CCHL website and elite hockey website. I looked up every player listed on every CCHL team found out where they played their minor hockey and used that data to come up with the number of HEO players in the CCHL.
The year before CCHL U18 the CCHL had 49% of its players were from the HEO area during the CCHL U18 reign that percentage dropped to 29%. The number of players that left the HEO area to play hockey elsewhere increased every year to a high of about 16 last year (U16 only). That number has dropped to 4 that I am aware of (U16 only) for this year. CCHL U18 is dead. The kids did not leave the HEO area. This is a positive. CCHL is out of minor hockey this a positive.
IMO the CCHL is a good league that needs to increase its the local content, rid itself of some awful money first owners.
Further the CCHL, as per the demands at the time from local players and parents, was for it to increase it's caliber of play and ability to compete with other Jr. A leagues who sent more players to NCAA D1. Yes the CCHL did have more local players, however the caliber of play was much worse. Other leagues such as the BCHL and AJHL, took the top players from as far as they could get. They were making progress, and the CCHL was left behind.
Local parents "think" their little stars are better than they are, and DEMAND more representation at the CCHL level. They want to force this in, and will be met with more failure. HEO has utterly failed at properly developing players to be good enough to play at the next level. It's so glaringly obvious and spoken about openly-in the right circles-it's sad it needs to be said again.
Having an HEO run U18AAA league will drive down the amount of local players good enough for the next level. The quality of play at current HEO U18AAA camps is horrible! There's no denying it, it's brutal. This will "hurt" HEO players, and their performance at "showcase" tournaments will further bring down the perception of the low caliber of player coming out of HEO.
HEO run U18AAA is not a positive at all. U18AAA is essentially dead. MORE kids will leave HEO as a result.
The CCHL should never force feed local players into it's league, if they are not GOOD ENOUGH to win a spot over others. That's ridiculous! IF they do this, MORE players will continue to leave at an exponential rate.
When the CCHL pick an all star team to play in HC events most players were HEO kids.
I would suggest your re-check your history
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Re: Ottawa U18 2022/23 Season
Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:29 amI am tired of proving you wrong.Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:10 amGuest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:59 amWhat colour is the sky in your world?Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:38 amYou're wrong, it's 27% who play Jr. A or higherGuest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:09 amOn average 10 players per birth year make an OHL team another 30 from the same birth year make a CCHL team. that makes 40 out of 85 therefore 47%. I do not count the players that make the Q.or move to other Jr A leagues. I am sure I could find 3 more to make it 50%. If you do not like my facts do the work yourself and prove me wrong.
Prove me wrong
How many 2006's in OHL, CCHL
How many 2005's in OHL, CCHL
How many 2007's in OHL,CCHL
I have done the work you try it.
So have I
Proving you wrong is easy
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Re: Ottawa U18 2022/23 Season
I would switch news stations if I were you. You're probably listening to your own podcast-audience of one.Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:26 amNewsflash. CCHL caliber is falling behind. It was far better 5 years ago. Strong players know they have other options.Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:10 amYour numbers are off by a mile!!! LOLGuest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:16 amThis is what did I for 8 years when the CCHL ran U18.Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:26 pmShow me some facts-I'd love to see them.
The only fact we have is that HEO has failed to develop players during the most significant and impactful time in their development process. Too bad we didn't have better leadership to handle this issue at the Branch, league, AAA, AA, team and association levels to properly address this black eye on minor hockey here. The solution is evident, apparent, easily identified, already in place in private options, yet ignored by those in decision making positions in minor hockey in HEO.
It's quite frankly pathetic. Go, use your "alleged" stats to prove literally nothing. You actually prove my point, perhaps I should thank you.
Using CCHL website and elite hockey website. I looked up every player listed on every CCHL team found out where they played their minor hockey and used that data to come up with the number of HEO players in the CCHL.
The year before CCHL U18 the CCHL had 49% of its players were from the HEO area during the CCHL U18 reign that percentage dropped to 29%. The number of players that left the HEO area to play hockey elsewhere increased every year to a high of about 16 last year (U16 only). That number has dropped to 4 that I am aware of (U16 only) for this year. CCHL U18 is dead. The kids did not leave the HEO area. This is a positive. CCHL is out of minor hockey this a positive.
IMO the CCHL is a good league that needs to increase its the local content, rid itself of some awful money first owners.
Further the CCHL, as per the demands at the time from local players and parents, was for it to increase it's caliber of play and ability to compete with other Jr. A leagues who sent more players to NCAA D1. Yes the CCHL did have more local players, however the caliber of play was much worse. Other leagues such as the BCHL and AJHL, took the top players from as far as they could get. They were making progress, and the CCHL was left behind.
Local parents "think" their little stars are better than they are, and DEMAND more representation at the CCHL level. They want to force this in, and will be met with more failure. HEO has utterly failed at properly developing players to be good enough to play at the next level. It's so glaringly obvious and spoken about openly-in the right circles-it's sad it needs to be said again.
Having an HEO run U18AAA league will drive down the amount of local players good enough for the next level. The quality of play at current HEO U18AAA camps is horrible! There's no denying it, it's brutal. This will "hurt" HEO players, and their performance at "showcase" tournaments will further bring down the perception of the low caliber of player coming out of HEO.
HEO run U18AAA is not a positive at all. U18AAA is essentially dead. MORE kids will leave HEO as a result.
The CCHL should never force feed local players into it's league, if they are not GOOD ENOUGH to win a spot over others. That's ridiculous! IF they do this, MORE players will continue to leave at an exponential rate.
Yup, the BCHL, AJHL and NAHL are higher caliber. NO denying it. People like you think that forcing in more local players, who can't make it on merit, is the way for it to improve! I mean I can't stop laughing!!
How did your kid feel after he couldn't even make the low caliber NCDC?? Did he even try Jr. B??
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