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That is the dumbest thing I think I've read on here. You are either the coach writing this or a parent to afraid to move your kid from the team your on. If I was a parent on one of those teams I'm pissed to be playing Tier 2 and 3 teams. Give me a break, good practices

lol, actually a former KSL parent whose kid is playing U10 AAA. It was tongue in cheek buddy. Embarrassing that Oakville and Markham have to threaten kids to stay in MD. Says a lot about how much better it is in KSL.

no but the post above you is right, there are so many parents how have been sold a bill of goods by their coach and have instilled some sort of fear that if they leave they wont play AAA or it will be bad for their development. These are naive parents who have their egos stroked by these "salesmen". I can think of two right of the bat the HC of the VR Red 2016 Tier 1 and the coach of the Duffield White Tier 1. That guy is a Realtor so you can imagine the shit coming from that guy. He has been using the Nats AAA for 3 years now and they aren't even that good of an organization. That has the makings of a disaster. Tell me where did you play to give parents the comfort knowing you know what you are talking about? I cant wait to see the score when they Play Vaughan White and East York 8 times a year

You have no idea what you are talking about. The DW and VR coaches have built strong programs and the kids have developed and will continue to develop. They will find ways to play competitive games and both will be foundations for top tier AAA teams next year. Don’t hate them because they chose not to go to the KSL. Instead respect that there are other viable options. VR in particular is a core of kids and parents that have been together for several years and have stayed loyal to each other and developed as a team. These are not naive parents who are getting their egos stroked.

I think its a good thing. Its important for kids to be having fun and enjoying hockey. If they are happy playing with each other, everything else should be secondary.

Hopefully the coach looks for tournaments and random exhibition games to push the kids if they are that much better than who they will play against.

My one question would be, why didn't that coach and parents take the kids out of the program and not just start their own team? Rent ice, do development, and play games against better competition for likely WAY less money and no requirement to answer to the larger org rules.

Clearly none of you people know much about youth hockey and this is why you come here to look like you do by hiding behind "Guest"

Let me give you the facts, KSL / NYHL are both good it all depends on who's running the ship. the DW group will be the leaders going into u10AAA , they play close to 50 games a year and have recruited very well. The VR team has a terrible leader which will hurt them come AAA but those kids will all land somewhere.

The kids going KSL will have a small advantage for the first 3 months but it will all even out. They are U9's relax lol

What are you even going on about?

NYHL has lost the vast majority of their good players, including full blown teams. This isn't a opinion, its a fact.
therefore, if they only play the teams that are on their schedule, they will have each other to play against, and then destroy everyone else.

I don't know the coaches enough to agree or disagree on your assessment, but if the kids are willing to stick around despite lots of other options there is only two reasons:

1. They believe in the coach / program
2. they are being bullied / coerced to stay

Finally, if the kids in KSL have the advantage for 3 months (half a season) and you don't think that's much of an advantage - that's fine. However, its just your opinion, just like its their opinion that it will make a decent enough difference to change their decision on where to play.

If your kid is incredible, it doesn't matter where they play, they will make any team they want.
If your kid is more likely that next group of kids - the ones who are good but not the best player on the ice when they are on the ice, they will benefit the most from additional reps at full ice and a development pathway that has likely included Full-ice for at least one full season already.

Fact is that NYHL was a good option in the past but is no longer a great option. It’s not just 3 months but an entire season. Some kids will still continue to be good but for majority of the others it may hinder their development.

Between the 2 2016 Raiders who gets JRC?

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:34 pm Between the 2 2016 Raiders who gets JRC?

the good one.

DDW white parent here. Just to answer why we play for our coach and why we choose him. 15 years of AAA coaching experience. He has won in the Gthl AAA loop multiple times. Ultimately when we shopped around for teams our number 1 thing that we were looking for was coaching experience. We found that there were a lot of younger kids that played at high level with no coaching experience or parent coaches that have never coached. Yes he is a parent coach but that is why he is coaching at the age group or else he would still be coaching an older Nats team. He is in the game for the right reasons and doesn’t do it for the money. He has built a program that doesn’t depend on a league. Anyways there is you answer of to why most of us play for him.

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:32 pm DDW white parent here. Just to answer why we play for our coach and why we choose him. 15 years of AAA coaching experience. He has won in the Gthl AAA loop multiple times. Ultimately when we shopped around for teams our number 1 thing that we were looking for was coaching experience. We found that there were a lot of younger kids that played at high level with no coaching experience or parent coaches that have never coached. Yes he is a parent coach but that is why he is coaching at the age group or else he would still be coaching an older Nats team. He is in the game for the right reasons and doesn’t do it for the money. He has built a program that doesn’t depend on a league. Anyways there is you answer of to why most of us play for him.

Admirable. But the kids still need competition. Hopefully they find it somewhere.

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:32 pm DDW white parent here. Just to answer why we play for our coach and why we choose him. 15 years of AAA coaching experience. He has won in the Gthl AAA loop multiple times. Ultimately when we shopped around for teams our number 1 thing that we were looking for was coaching experience. We found that there were a lot of younger kids that played at high level with no coaching experience or parent coaches that have never coached. Yes he is a parent coach but that is why he is coaching at the age group or else he would still be coaching an older Nats team. He is in the game for the right reasons and doesn’t do it for the money. He has built a program that doesn’t depend on a league. Anyways there is you answer of to why most of us play for him.

Thanks for that Aaron. Thats a great reassurance for your parent group lol

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:32 pm DDW white parent here. Just to answer why we play for our coach and why we choose him. 15 years of AAA coaching experience. He has won in the Gthl AAA loop multiple times. Ultimately when we shopped around for teams our number 1 thing that we were looking for was coaching experience. We found that there were a lot of younger kids that played at high level with no coaching experience or parent coaches that have never coached. Yes he is a parent coach but that is why he is coaching at the age group or else he would still be coaching an older Nats team. He is in the game for the right reasons and doesn’t do it for the money. He has built a program that doesn’t depend on a league. Anyways there is you answer of to why most of us play for him.

Shopped around, what is this UFA period? Its not a house lol Then again the coach is a Realtor so I guess I get the comparison now.

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:34 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:27 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:09 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:12 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 2:42 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:43 am

That is the dumbest thing I think I've read on here. You are either the coach writing this or a parent to afraid to move your kid from the team your on. If I was a parent on one of those teams I'm pissed to be playing Tier 2 and 3 teams. Give me a break, good practices

lol, actually a former KSL parent whose kid is playing U10 AAA. It was tongue in cheek buddy. Embarrassing that Oakville and Markham have to threaten kids to stay in MD. Says a lot about how much better it is in KSL.

no but the post above you is right, there are so many parents how have been sold a bill of goods by their coach and have instilled some sort of fear that if they leave they wont play AAA or it will be bad for their development. These are naive parents who have their egos stroked by these "salesmen". I can think of two right of the bat the HC of the VR Red 2016 Tier 1 and the coach of the Duffield White Tier 1. That guy is a Realtor so you can imagine the shit coming from that guy. He has been using the Nats AAA for 3 years now and they aren't even that good of an organization. That has the makings of a disaster. Tell me where did you play to give parents the comfort knowing you know what you are talking about? I cant wait to see the score when they Play Vaughan White and East York 8 times a year

You have no idea what you are talking about. The DW and VR coaches have built strong programs and the kids have developed and will continue to develop. They will find ways to play competitive games and both will be foundations for top tier AAA teams next year. Don’t hate them because they chose not to go to the KSL. Instead respect that there are other viable options. VR in particular is a core of kids and parents that have been together for several years and have stayed loyal to each other and developed as a team. These are not naive parents who are getting their egos stroked.

I think its a good thing. Its important for kids to be having fun and enjoying hockey. If they are happy playing with each other, everything else should be secondary.

Hopefully the coach looks for tournaments and random exhibition games to push the kids if they are that much better than who they will play against.

My one question would be, why didn't that coach and parents take the kids out of the program and not just start their own team? Rent ice, do development, and play games against better competition for likely WAY less money and no requirement to answer to the larger org rules.

Clearly none of you people know much about youth hockey and this is why you come here to look like you do by hiding behind "Guest"

Let me give you the facts, KSL / NYHL are both good it all depends on who's running the ship. the DW group will be the leaders going into u10AAA , they play close to 50 games a year and have recruited very well. The VR team has a terrible leader which will hurt them come AAA but those kids will all land somewhere.

The kids going KSL will have a small advantage for the first 3 months but it will all even out. They are U9's relax lol

Do I detect some tension between Duffield White and Vaughan Red? Dont make it so obvious that the Duffield Parents are all over this thing

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:45 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:34 pm Between the 2 2016 Raiders who gets JRC?

the good one.

Every team will work on recruiting the best players. Being on Raiders doesn't mean a direct entry to JRC. If you are a good player on Stars, you can also get in. It will be open market in KSL..all players are available for display in one location for everyone to see. why would a coach not pick a first line centre from another team over their 3rd line guy.