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No they are not game changers but I also don’t think any player on any mid pack team is better than MC or KR. There are players on top 4 teams that are better yes, but MC and KR are first line players on any team below the top 4. I don’t even know these kids I’m saying that’s just the reality of it.
I agree but you did a poor job of explaining why. You actually didn’t explain it at all. MC and KR play a well rounded game. They are decent offensively but they back check and will grind corners as best they can and work hard. They aren’t stars but they play a full game and it makes a difference. When you look at the top players on mid pack teams, none of them do that at the same level. None. NP scored 15 goals last season and played no defence, hangs at the blue line waiting for a breakout or stretch pass so he can try to beat a defender one on one. That’s not playing hockey and that’s why kids like NP, JC from DMF, AC never get taken by top 4 teams even though their parents beg those teams for spots every year. You are right the top teams have much more depth and you create depth with well rounded hockey players. Nobody wants a floater or one dimensional on the third line. Don’t get it twisted either. If your kid does have a pretty well rounded game but does not score a lot of goals then he isn’t going anywhere either.
That does not mean all forwards on top teams are well rounded, if you watch JB or EA from TM they play zero defence and float as bad as NP or AC does, they are just more skilled offensively. I am not blaming NP either I know for a fact he is coached to do that but that is why it’s important to put your child with a coach who actually knows what he’s doing. SC has no concept of what OHL or D1 scouts are looking for because he played Jr C at the height of his career (I’m not mocking I only played JR B). I only had exposure through my older boys career which was a massive learning curve. SC is just one example, the majority of coaches have no clue how to round out development and allowing players to float like NP, AC, JB does not do the kid any favours in the long run.
In the OHL draft every year there are about 25 kids from the GTHL who get drafted, give or take 2-3 picks any given year. So try and picture the top 12-14 fwds, 8-10 def, 3-4 goalies in the loop right now and assume they would be the ones picked if U16 draft was today. You will find 95% of them at least are on top teams. That’s just the way it is that’s my point. The third line on top teams is not interchangeable with mid pack at all.
Like I said I’m no expert but went through it two years ago with my eldest and had some eye opening convos. There is still plenty of time at this age to work on development.
Best post in months. Thx
Whoever wrote this garbage. To think you would compare MC and KR to offensive talents like NP, JB, AC is just totally retarded. To say some of those kids dont play D is fair. But, KR and MC dont do anything rather exceptional and are just roster fillers and are either glad to be there or they will leave. And EA has not been an offensive threat since U10. Your scouting stinks.
Nobody would consider NP and AC offensive talents except their parents. Scoring 11 or 12 goals a season is something that the top kids do in a month. Neither of them can even make a top 4 team. KR and MC bring more to the table. KR also had more goals than NP or AC last season so that spoils your argument.
Are KR and MC superstars? No way in hell. But they are more effective players than NP and AC that’s for sure. TYN third line is better than TRW top line.
Hahaha. You saying KR having more goals and is better is like saying Zack Hyman is better than Kaprizov because he had more goals. I dont count stats but NP and AC are more skilled. If KR had a few more tap ins on JRC last year doesnt mean shit IMO. Put KR on a shit team and you wouldnt notice him if you put Christmas lights on him.
you can't put AC in same league as NP. Clearly you never played with AC. He is not a good teammate. His parents are cancer.
I agree but you did a poor job of explaining why. You actually didn’t explain it at all. MC and KR play a well rounded game. They are decent offensively but they back check and will grind corners as best they can and work hard. They aren’t stars but they play a full game and it makes a difference. When you look at the top players on mid pack teams, none of them do that at the same level. None. NP scored 15 goals last season and played no defence, hangs at the blue line waiting for a breakout or stretch pass so he can try to beat a defender one on one. That’s not playing hockey and that’s why kids like NP, JC from DMF, AC never get taken by top 4 teams even though their parents beg those teams for spots every year. You are right the top teams have much more depth and you create depth with well rounded hockey players. Nobody wants a floater or one dimensional on the third line. Don’t get it twisted either. If your kid does have a pretty well rounded game but does not score a lot of goals then he isn’t going anywhere either.
That does not mean all forwards on top teams are well rounded, if you watch JB or EA from TM they play zero defence and float as bad as NP or AC does, they are just more skilled offensively. I am not blaming NP either I know for a fact he is coached to do that but that is why it’s important to put your child with a coach who actually knows what he’s doing. SC has no concept of what OHL or D1 scouts are looking for because he played Jr C at the height of his career (I’m not mocking I only played JR B). I only had exposure through my older boys career which was a massive learning curve. SC is just one example, the majority of coaches have no clue how to round out development and allowing players to float like NP, AC, JB does not do the kid any favours in the long run.
In the OHL draft every year there are about 25 kids from the GTHL who get drafted, give or take 2-3 picks any given year. So try and picture the top 12-14 fwds, 8-10 def, 3-4 goalies in the loop right now and assume they would be the ones picked if U16 draft was today. You will find 95% of them at least are on top teams. That’s just the way it is that’s my point. The third line on top teams is not interchangeable with mid pack at all.
Like I said I’m no expert but went through it two years ago with my eldest and had some eye opening convos. There is still plenty of time at this age to work on development.
Best post in months. Thx
Whoever wrote this garbage. To think you would compare MC and KR to offensive talents like NP, JB, AC is just totally retarded. To say some of those kids dont play D is fair. But, KR and MC dont do anything rather exceptional and are just roster fillers and are either glad to be there or they will leave. And EA has not been an offensive threat since U10. Your scouting stinks.
Nobody would consider NP and AC offensive talents except their parents. Scoring 11 or 12 goals a season is something that the top kids do in a month. Neither of them can even make a top 4 team. KR and MC bring more to the table. KR also had more goals than NP or AC last season so that spoils your argument.
Are KR and MC superstars? No way in hell. But they are more effective players than NP and AC that’s for sure. TYN third line is better than TRW top line.
Hahaha. You saying KR having more goals and is better is like saying Zack Hyman is better than Kaprizov because he had more goals. I dont count stats but NP and AC are more skilled. If KR had a few more tap ins on JRC last year doesnt mean shit IMO. Put KR on a shit team and you wouldnt notice him if you put Christmas lights on him.
you can't put AC in same league as NP. Clearly you never played with AC. He is not a good teammate. His parents are cancer.