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The organizations are run by volunteers from the community they are in. Aaa is not a corporate franchise that dispatches management teams where they want a team on their dime. Local aaa orgs are started and run by the community they are in. Why the eff would a community form and volunteer to run an organization at their own great expense and time commitment for other peoples kids???
The open border people are ALWAYS the parent problems.
Coaching corruption is far more prevalent in open border systems. You are pushing your agenda because you want control you dont have and dont deserve- all open border advocates do.

Ok puppet. Lol parents volunteer to either keep their kid relevant or have control. Nothing more. They are just to stupid to realize all the money you all funnel up to alliance. Omha. Ohf. Hc. Look it up.

Pls tell me how freedom of choice re open borders is having control? When closed borders limits choice. Why even have F1's then? If youre so sold on borders then why allow F1's? Which is just hoop jumping bs. You're afraid is why. Afraid of choices.

Pls tell me how freedom of choice re open borders is having control? When closed borders limits choice. Why even have F1's then? If youre so sold on borders then why allow F1's? Which is just hoop jumping bs. You're afraid is why. Afraid of choices.

Ok parent problem
Volunteers protect their own kid- thats 1 spot. Highly Paid coaches in open borders recruit their 1st line then sell the rest - thats over 10 corrupt picks - don’t believe me - check the gthl. Your pi$$ed cuz you can afford one of the corrupt spoTs but your reputation has ruined your kids chances in your home org -

No borders just makes sense. If you as an org are as great as you think you are. Why would anyone leave? Then all your problems can just go play hockey elsewhere. Seems like an obvious win win.

Which part if this did you not understand

The organizations are run by volunteers from the community they are in. Aaa is not a corporate franchise that dispatches management teams where they want a team on their dime. Local aaa orgs are started and run by the community they are in. Why the eff would a community form and volunteer to run an organization at their own great expense and time commitment for other peoples kids???

The org is run mostly by parent volunteers. There will always be parents that will jump on the board and help volunteer. It doesn't matter if they live in the community or not - thier kid PLAYS in the org. A large reason EMC shot down the open borders, from a board member, was the need to "protect their own".

You say the people who want open borders are "problem parents". Maybe the people who want closed borders realize that their kid might not have a spot if more competition comes along or less teams/spots are available. Maybe they don't like strong competition...don't want to compete with the G teams. Open borders or not, there will always be shitty coaches/parents/boards.
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Can you read????
Hockey orgs are grass roots
Not a franchise
Here you go read this again

The organizations are run by volunteers from the community they are in. Aaa is not a corporate franchise that dispatches management teams where they want a team on their dime. Local aaa orgs are started and run by the community they are in. Why the eff would a community form and volunteer to run an organization at their own great expense and time commitment for other peoples kids???

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Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:56 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:31 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:05 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:53 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:32 pm

Ok puppet. Lol parents volunteer to either keep their kid relevant or have control. Nothing more. They are just to stupid to realize all the money you all funnel up to alliance. Omha. Ohf. Hc. Look it up.

Pls tell me how freedom of choice re open borders is having control? When closed borders limits choice. Why even have F1's then? If youre so sold on borders then why allow F1's? Which is just hoop jumping bs. You're afraid is why. Afraid of choices.

Pls tell me how freedom of choice re open borders is having control? When closed borders limits choice. Why even have F1's then? If youre so sold on borders then why allow F1's? Which is just hoop jumping bs. You're afraid is why. Afraid of choices.

Ok parent problem
Volunteers protect their own kid- thats 1 spot. Highly Paid coaches in open borders recruit their 1st line then sell the rest - thats over 10 corrupt picks - don’t believe me - check the gthl. Your pi$$ed cuz you can afford one of the corrupt spoTs but your reputation has ruined your kids chances in your home org -

No borders just makes sense. If you as an org are as great as you think you are. Why would anyone leave? Then all your problems can just go play hockey elsewhere. Seems like an obvious win win.

Which part if this did you not understand

The organizations are run by volunteers from the community they are in. Aaa is not a corporate franchise that dispatches management teams where they want a team on their dime. Local aaa orgs are started and run by the community they are in. Why the eff would a community form and volunteer to run an organization at their own great expense and time commitment for other peoples kids???

The org is run mostly by parent volunteers. There will always be parents that will jump on the board and help volunteer. It doesn't matter if they live in the community or not - thier kid PLAYS in the org. A large reason EMC shot down the open borders, from a board member, was the need to "protect their own".

You say the people who want open borders are "problem parents". Maybe the people who want closed borders realize that their kid might not have a spot if more competition comes along or less teams/spots are available. Maybe they don't like strong competition...don't want to compete with the G teams. Open borders or not, there will always be shitty coaches/parents/boards.

Can you read????
Hockey orgs are grass roots
Not a franchise
Here you go read this again

The organizations are run by volunteers from the community they are in. Aaa is not a corporate franchise that dispatches management teams where they want a team on their dime. Local aaa orgs are started and run by the community they are in. Why the eff would a community form and volunteer to run an organization at their own great expense and time commitment for other peoples kids???
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I'm guessing you aren't capable of looking passed your own opinion. That's fine. No one is asking for a franchise dipshit. You can open borders and not have it run like the G. "Grass roots"?? Get a grip. The parents are volunteers. there will always be volunteers WITH OR WITHOUT OPEN BORDERS! Come join the rest of us in 2024.

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Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:02 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:56 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:31 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:05 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:53 pm

Pls tell me how freedom of choice re open borders is having control? When closed borders limits choice. Why even have F1's then? If youre so sold on borders then why allow F1's? Which is just hoop jumping bs. You're afraid is why. Afraid of choices.

Ok parent problem
Volunteers protect their own kid- thats 1 spot. Highly Paid coaches in open borders recruit their 1st line then sell the rest - thats over 10 corrupt picks - don’t believe me - check the gthl. Your pi$$ed cuz you can afford one of the corrupt spoTs but your reputation has ruined your kids chances in your home org -

No borders just makes sense. If you as an org are as great as you think you are. Why would anyone leave? Then all your problems can just go play hockey elsewhere. Seems like an obvious win win.

Which part if this did you not understand

The organizations are run by volunteers from the community they are in. Aaa is not a corporate franchise that dispatches management teams where they want a team on their dime. Local aaa orgs are started and run by the community they are in. Why the eff would a community form and volunteer to run an organization at their own great expense and time commitment for other peoples kids???

The org is run mostly by parent volunteers. There will always be parents that will jump on the board and help volunteer. It doesn't matter if they live in the community or not - thier kid PLAYS in the org. A large reason EMC shot down the open borders, from a board member, was the need to "protect their own".

You say the people who want open borders are "problem parents". Maybe the people who want closed borders realize that their kid might not have a spot if more competition comes along or less teams/spots are available. Maybe they don't like strong competition...don't want to compete with the G teams. Open borders or not, there will always be shitty coaches/parents/boards.

Can you read????
Hockey orgs are grass roots
Not a franchise
Here you go read this again

The organizations are run by volunteers from the community they are in. Aaa is not a corporate franchise that dispatches management teams where they want a team on their dime. Local aaa orgs are started and run by the community they are in. Why the eff would a community form and volunteer to run an organization at their own great expense and time commitment for other peoples kids???

I'm guessing you aren't capable of looking passed your own opinion. That's fine. No one is asking for a franchise dipshit. You can open borders and not have it run like the G. "Grass roots"?? Get a grip. The parents are volunteers. there will always be volunteers WITH OR WITHOUT OPEN BORDERS! Come join the rest of us in 2024.
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The open border experiment always ends the same way - its gonna cost 30000$ a year to play - which is what you want - that gets rud of a lot of poor skilled players so you can buy a spot for your ankle bender

The fact is EMC will never open borders
On occasion there may be an F1 if that player is
"Better than" Elgin-Middlesex players. That is the way it has been since the beginning and always will be.

Did Note that commenters that are Pro open borders can't help but resort to name calling

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but the policies are not going to change. So if you urgently want options, request your release and start heading to tryouts elsewhere
Best of luck
Go Canucks!

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:34 pm The fact is EMC will never open borders
On occasion there may be an F1 if that player is
"Better than" Elgin-Middlesex players. That is the way it has been since the beginning and always will be.

Did Note that commenters that are Pro open borders can't help but resort to name calling

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but the policies are not going to change. So if you urgently want options, request your release and start heading to tryouts elsewhere
Best of luck
Go Canucks!

And the "closed borders to protect my kid" are passive aggressive with their can you read comments. Who cares.

I love when people say "just get a release" like it's easy. Have you seen the hoops you have to jump through and how much the board does NOT want to grant releases? Or how badly they will run their mouth about those who wish to leave? The problem is this "grass roots" org can't handle change because they might have to loosen their grip.

If your reasons for leaving are legit, the organization will not hold you back, and if you truly feel that leaving is your best option then you won’t care what others think or say about you!

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Guest wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:26 pm Yes. The board wanted to protect the kids in the area. It would just be nice to see less teams and make the other ones more competitive. I understand that it's tough to see kids leave their area for greener pastures or for a local kid to be cut but the point of AAA and any competitive sport is to have the best kids - not just the best kids that are within a boundary. Also, it might force organizations to be better - to be more appealing to players. Make them want to come to you.

Less teams= agree
No Boundaries = agree

If someone wants to drive 2 hrs to practice fill your boots

Take a step back in time and learn the history of how Elgin-Middlesex Chiefs came to be. A dedicated group of parents came together to provide a team for highly talents Bantam players that could not play outside of their OMHA centres
It was 1 team. They worked hard to make it a reality.. nearly lost it all due to "circumstances" and eventually EMHA became a full association with 1 team at each age level on the AAA Alliance. EMC exists for the development of Elgin-Middlesex players. If you don' like it, leave. Go to the G and see how great it is
Good luck

This statement is the funniest thing i've heard out here. EVER! "EMC exists for the development of Elgin-Middlesex players".

The ones that fit into the controlling age groups that allow it. Let's be honest.

Borders are a communist mentality. You all freak the eff out when medical professionals recommend you to get a shot yet you let a bunch of old white fat dudes from richmond hill/stratford/ cambridge etc tell you where you can play. You think minor hockey has freedom? Lol you are all puppets to the man and his $. Wake up. Prep academies are growing for a reason.

The real reason most are afraid of open borders and change is it increases the competition. Holds people accountable and increases the likelyhood of people losing control. Imagine if your little superstar had to make it on his own. Not because of being buddies with the coaches kid. Revolving dads taking turns coaching to ensure no change. Parents taking board positions to have bias and intent. Coaches taking teams and players who are loyal to their training companies.

It's fear tand money that dictates borders. Wake up.

The organizations are run by volunteers from the community they are in. Aaa is not a corporate franchise that dispatches management teams where they want a team on their dime. Local aaa orgs are started and run by the community they are in. Why the eff would a community form and volunteer to run an organization at their own great expense and time commitment for other peoples kids???
The open border people are ALWAYS the parent problems.
Coaching corruption is far more prevalent in open border systems. You are pushing your agenda because you want control you dont have and dont deserve- all open border advocates do.

Having an opinion different than yours = parent problem? What a lame @ss arguement. How long did that take to think up?

Good luck in toronto next year

What's the record for EMC vs GTHL?

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:34 pm The fact is EMC will never open borders
On occasion there may be an F1 if that player is
"Better than" Elgin-Middlesex players. That is the way it has been since the beginning and always will be.

Did Note that commenters that are Pro open borders can't help but resort to name calling

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but the policies are not going to change. So if you urgently want options, request your release and start heading to tryouts elsewhere
Best of luck
Go Canucks!

EMC will never compete at a provincial level either

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:48 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:50 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:37 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:46 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:14 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:35 pm

Take a step back in time and learn the history of how Elgin-Middlesex Chiefs came to be. A dedicated group of parents came together to provide a team for highly talents Bantam players that could not play outside of their OMHA centres
It was 1 team. They worked hard to make it a reality.. nearly lost it all due to "circumstances" and eventually EMHA became a full association with 1 team at each age level on the AAA Alliance. EMC exists for the development of Elgin-Middlesex players. If you don' like it, leave. Go to the G and see how great it is
Good luck

This statement is the funniest thing i've heard out here. EVER! "EMC exists for the development of Elgin-Middlesex players".

The ones that fit into the controlling age groups that allow it. Let's be honest.

Borders are a communist mentality. You all freak the eff out when medical professionals recommend you to get a shot yet you let a bunch of old white fat dudes from richmond hill/stratford/ cambridge etc tell you where you can play. You think minor hockey has freedom? Lol you are all puppets to the man and his $. Wake up. Prep academies are growing for a reason.

The real reason most are afraid of open borders and change is it increases the competition. Holds people accountable and increases the likelyhood of people losing control. Imagine if your little superstar had to make it on his own. Not because of being buddies with the coaches kid. Revolving dads taking turns coaching to ensure no change. Parents taking board positions to have bias and intent. Coaches taking teams and players who are loyal to their training companies.

It's fear tand money that dictates borders. Wake up.

The organizations are run by volunteers from the community they are in. Aaa is not a corporate franchise that dispatches management teams where they want a team on their dime. Local aaa orgs are started and run by the community they are in. Why the eff would a community form and volunteer to run an organization at their own great expense and time commitment for other peoples kids???
The open border people are ALWAYS the parent problems.
Coaching corruption is far more prevalent in open border systems. You are pushing your agenda because you want control you dont have and dont deserve- all open border advocates do.

Having an opinion different than yours = parent problem? What a lame @ss arguement. How long did that take to think up?

Good luck in toronto next year

What's the record for EMC vs GTHL?

0-1000

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:02 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:56 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:31 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:05 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:53 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:32 pm

Ok puppet. Lol parents volunteer to either keep their kid relevant or have control. Nothing more. They are just to stupid to realize all the money you all funnel up to alliance. Omha. Ohf. Hc. Look it up.

Pls tell me how freedom of choice re open borders is having control? When closed borders limits choice. Why even have F1's then? If youre so sold on borders then why allow F1's? Which is just hoop jumping bs. You're afraid is why. Afraid of choices.

Pls tell me how freedom of choice re open borders is having control? When closed borders limits choice. Why even have F1's then? If youre so sold on borders then why allow F1's? Which is just hoop jumping bs. You're afraid is why. Afraid of choices.

Ok parent problem
Volunteers protect their own kid- thats 1 spot. Highly Paid coaches in open borders recruit their 1st line then sell the rest - thats over 10 corrupt picks - don’t believe me - check the gthl. Your pi$$ed cuz you can afford one of the corrupt spoTs but your reputation has ruined your kids chances in your home org -

No borders just makes sense. If you as an org are as great as you think you are. Why would anyone leave? Then all your problems can just go play hockey elsewhere. Seems like an obvious win win.

Which part if this did you not understand

The organizations are run by volunteers from the community they are in. Aaa is not a corporate franchise that dispatches management teams where they want a team on their dime. Local aaa orgs are started and run by the community they are in. Why the eff would a community form and volunteer to run an organization at their own great expense and time commitment for other peoples kids???

The org is run mostly by parent volunteers. There will always be parents that will jump on the board and help volunteer. It doesn't matter if they live in the community or not - thier kid PLAYS in the org. A large reason EMC shot down the open borders, from a board member, was the need to "protect their own".

You say the people who want open borders are "problem parents". Maybe the people who want closed borders realize that their kid might not have a spot if more competition comes along or less teams/spots are available. Maybe they don't like strong competition...don't want to compete with the G teams. Open borders or not, there will always be shitty coaches/parents/boards.

Can you read????
Hockey orgs are grass roots
Not a franchise
Here you go read this again

The organizations are run by volunteers from the community they are in. Aaa is not a corporate franchise that dispatches management teams where they want a team on their dime. Local aaa orgs are started and run by the community they are in. Why the eff would a community form and volunteer to run an organization at their own great expense and time commitment for other peoples kids???
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You're nor very smart are you? Emc rolls up to alliance which rolls up to OHF which rolls up to HC. Do you want to re-think the grassroots comments dipshlt? Lol.

Do you really think parents involved are doing it for "other peoples kids"? Lol man. You are not smart. If you're lucky to get a non parent coach great. But how many grt run out when they make a decision against the norm? See 2019-20 09's. Ran him out. Oh but you have ole JW now. Nooooo. No bias there lol

Open borders holds associations accountable to this bs. No one is looking to pay coaches $30k. But the small group in EMC that wanta to hang onto control will have a hard time competing when the team and association down the road build a winning program.

Don't be afraid. Fear is such a turn off.