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Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:15 pm Do you think all U18 AAA is bad or just HEO? Asking for an OMHA friend

Majority of players in U18 are missing something that would allow them to player junior hockey. The HEO area has 12 CCHL teams the EOJHL (Jr B) has 14 teams. This is what makes U18 hockey weak.

Too many kids are getting horrible advice. Pushed into Junior when they are not ready. They don't get playing time or development.They are better being in u18 and dominating. Unless they are in that top 10%. Playing against 20-21 year olds who are physically developed is not smart.

Totally agree with this especially the first year U18 players (07’s this year). The rush to junior is getting out of hand. Lots of good competition at U18 and time to develop and grow. Very few 07’s will make an impact in junior this year.

IMO this is a simple fix, follow Quebec and force 17-year-olds to play U18 unless they can pass Hockey Canada exceptional status to play Junior A (Major or tier II)

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:26 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:13 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:42 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:10 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:08 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:15 pm Do you think all U18 AAA is bad or just HEO? Asking for an OMHA friend

Majority of players in U18 are missing something that would allow them to player junior hockey. The HEO area has 12 CCHL teams the EOJHL (Jr B) has 14 teams. This is what makes U18 hockey weak.

Too many kids are getting horrible advice. Pushed into Junior when they are not ready. They don't get playing time or development.They are better being in u18 and dominating. Unless they are in that top 10%. Playing against 20-21 year olds who are physically developed is not smart.

Totally agree with this especially the first year U18 players (07’s this year). The rush to junior is getting out of hand. Lots of good competition at U18 and time to develop and grow. Very few 07’s will make an impact in junior this year.

IMO this is a simple fix, follow Quebec and force 17-year-olds to play U18 unless they can pass Hockey Canada exceptional status to play Junior A (Major or tier II)

Quebec U18 is watered down. Top kids are long gone. Because there is no grade 12 and the CEGEP hockey system is so-so, strong Quebec players go to do Grade 12 in Ontario or the US (or BCS/Stanstead) if they can afford it. A player physical profile for an 18 year old is often like 6 feet weighing 165. They don't have the muscle or core strength yet to compete with a 19 year -20 year old weighing 190. The junior game gets a bit more grittier and the skill guys have less space because everyone skates well in Junior A.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:00 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:26 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:13 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:42 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:10 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:08 am

Majority of players in U18 are missing something that would allow them to player junior hockey. The HEO area has 12 CCHL teams the EOJHL (Jr B) has 14 teams. This is what makes U18 hockey weak.

Too many kids are getting horrible advice. Pushed into Junior when they are not ready. They don't get playing time or development.They are better being in u18 and dominating. Unless they are in that top 10%. Playing against 20-21 year olds who are physically developed is not smart.

Totally agree with this especially the first year U18 players (07’s this year). The rush to junior is getting out of hand. Lots of good competition at U18 and time to develop and grow. Very few 07’s will make an impact in junior this year.

IMO this is a simple fix, follow Quebec and force 17-year-olds to play U18 unless they can pass Hockey Canada exceptional status to play Junior A (Major or tier II)

Quebec U18 is watered down. Top kids are long gone. Because there is no grade 12 and the CEGEP hockey system is so-so, strong Quebec players go to do Grade 12 in Ontario or the US (or BCS/Stanstead) if they can afford it. A player physical profile for an 18 year old is often like 6 feet weighing 165. They don't have the muscle or core strength yet to compete with a 19 year -20 year old weighing 190. The junior game gets a bit more grittier and the skill guys have less space because everyone skates well in Junior A.

Another post be the uninformed.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:59 pmHEO U18AAA is awful

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:27 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:00 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:26 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:13 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:42 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:10 am
Too many kids are getting horrible advice. Pushed into Junior when they are not ready. They don't get playing time or development.They are better being in u18 and dominating. Unless they are in that top 10%. Playing against 20-21 year olds who are physically developed is not smart.

Totally agree with this especially the first year U18 players (07’s this year). The rush to junior is getting out of hand. Lots of good competition at U18 and time to develop and grow. Very few 07’s will make an impact in junior this year.

IMO this is a simple fix, follow Quebec and force 17-year-olds to play U18 unless they can pass Hockey Canada exceptional status to play Junior A (Major or tier II)

Quebec U18 is watered down. Top kids are long gone. Because there is no grade 12 and the CEGEP hockey system is so-so, strong Quebec players go to do Grade 12 in Ontario or the US (or BCS/Stanstead) if they can afford it. A player physical profile for an 18 year old is often like 6 feet weighing 165. They don't have the muscle or core strength yet to compete with a 19 year -20 year old weighing 190. The junior game gets a bit more grittier and the skill guys have less space because everyone skates well in Junior A.

Another post be the uninformed.

Oh geez. Someone lifted up the rock and look what crawled out: the I'm on the inside guy cuz' my kid has "interest"

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:30 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:59 pmHEO U18AAA is awful

Is that because the 16-year-olds are not there to bring up the quality of hockey?

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:25 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:30 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:59 pmHEO U18AAA is awful

Is that because the 16-year-olds are not there to bring up the quality of hockey?

I have to assume you mean the 15 year olds right!?!? I hope so. It's also because HEO has so poorly managed minor hockey and sacrificed the U18AAA division for U16AAA, that the quality 16 and 17 years olds want nothing to do with them. The good ones have made other choices.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:12 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:25 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:30 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:59 pmHEO U18AAA is awful

Is that because the 16-year-olds are not there to bring up the quality of hockey?

I have to assume you mean the 15 year olds right!?!? I hope so. It's also because HEO has so poorly managed minor hockey and sacrificed the U18AAA division for U16AAA, that the quality 16 and 17 years olds want nothing to do with them. The good ones have made other choices.

Agreed

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Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:12 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:25 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:30 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:59 pmHEO U18AAA is awful

Is that because the 16-year-olds are not there to bring up the quality of hockey?

I have to assume you mean the 15 year olds right!?!? I hope so. It's also because HEO has so poorly managed minor hockey and sacrificed the U18AAA division for U16AAA, that the quality 16 and 17 years olds want nothing to do with them. The good ones have made other choices.

Agreed

But the issue is while there are other options and kids are taking them, it doesn't mean those are great options either for them.If a kid can get and afford a good school program until they graduated, that is probably the wisest choice.